CincyBillsFan

I hate to admit it but you maybe right. Damn once he gets healthy they should at least give him every opportunity to get on the field.

On the one hand your post is tin foil hat material, but then again a lot of tin foil hat material in all walks of life is coming true now a days. One thing for sure though is that the NFL wants an AFC East fight between the Bills, and their national audience, and the Pats with their shrinking but still large national audience. A competitive race between the two benefits the NFL far more then a run away Bills division title. Beating NE last night would have come close to locking up the AFC East after only 5 weeks - a terrible look by a league that worships at the altar of PARITY. And talking about non calls, in what Universe was that not grounding on Maye in the 1st half? You know the play and it was amazing that it wasn't called.

I can agree with this. As another poster noted last night was Allen's B game and he made some mistakes but also had several wow plays that kept drives alive and the Bills in the game. I would be more comfortable with the FO not giving Allen the tools he needs to consistently play his A game if they were not forcing the offense to play a certain way to protect the Defense and if the tools being lavished on the D had a better track record of success.

This is a great observation. Allen played his B game and the Bills lost. Mahomes plays a lot of B games that the Chiefs win. And that's why the Chiefs and not the Bills are going to Super Bowl games.

Damn the knives are out for Allen today. One freaking play where he bailed early cost the Bills the game? Really? The usual suspects on 2BD have been holding in their resentment of all things Allen during the 4 - 0 start and seem thrilled to be able to point to a couple of potential "mishaps" on Allen's part. Do any of you actually watch other football games? If you're going to go through every play you would see that even the best players in the game, and Allen is undoubtedly one of the top 3 QB's in the NFL, will mess up on a couple of plays per game. But let's try a thought experiment: say Allen stayed in the pocket and threw a TD pass on that play and the Bills go up 24 - 20 with 2 minutes to play and NE with 3 TO's. How confident are you that they don't go down and score a game winning TD with very little time left on the clock?

Off the record? You might be surprised at what Allen says in that scenario. BTW, Allen will always say he should play better but the real issue was whether or not Allen played good enough to win the game. And IMO he did. Other, far more serious issues, cost the Bills the game last night. Nitpicking Allen over this play or that is a fools errand. The problems limiting the Bills have nothing to do with Allen.

How do you know that the fumble was on Allen? The stats assign it to him but unless your name is Brady you have no idea who fumbled that ball. That any one watching last nights game would claim that Allen played poorly is astonishing to me. It would be no different then claiming Allen played great. He played a good game - nothing more, nothing less. The loss was not because of bad QB play.

Disagree, Allen played a good but not great game. If the Bills can't win games against decent teams, and yes NE is decent, when Allen only plays good then they are not a SB contender.

I thought Coleman also screwed up to pretty good first half sideline throws where he wasn't the 50/50 jump ball guy the Bills need him to be.

This is a great point and is 100% on Brady.

By what measure? Was Allen committing offensive pass interference and holding? Last season Allen had a crappy game against Houston. But last night was not a crappy game by any reasonable standard. Was it one of Allen's better games? No, but it's insane to say he played like crap.

Point out anything you want it's a free country. But don't pretend that your "analysis" of a still frame is the same thing as coaches in the film room going over each play. Looking at last nights game I could make a long list of why the Bills lost and it would be way down that list before I noted how Allen MAY have misjudged a couple of throws. Again, you people are nitpicking the guy that kept us in the game while the rest of the team struggled mightily. Check out the Bengals & Ravens for perspective.

If Allen wasn't QBing the Bills last night they lose 23 - 6 or worse. See the Ravens versus Texans game. Allen made some great throws and great runs. This nitpicking of Allen in the face of the obvious shortcomings that lost last nights game is bizarre to me.

Yep. The way the conference is shaping up 13 - 4 will win home field advantage through the playoffs. That means the Bills must go 9 - 3 over the next 12 games. Given the schedule this looks very doable. NE will lose a couple of games they are not supposed to lose which is common among rising NFL powers.

I clearly said the D was great in the first half. But is it to much to ask that it play great for an ENTIRE game? The two deep sideline throws I remember were both to Coleman and were great throws to a WR that is big & strong like a D-Hop. And both of those passes should have been caught.

It not just how many points the D gave up but when they gave them up. In the 1st half the O struggled and was awful while the D played very well. The score was 6 - 3 Pats. In the 2nd half the Bills O played very well scoring 17 points on 4 possessions with their only TO giving the Pats the ball at their own 10 yard line. Playing at home should have been enough to eek out the win had the D played better in the 2nd half and actually gave us a full game. And again the D did not step up at crucial moments in the game - after the Bills took a 10 - 6 lead in the 3rd they allowed a long TD drive to give the Pats the lead again. And after the Allen INT the D allowed a 90 yard drive that gave the Pats a 2 score lead. And of course at the end of the game after we tied it up the D let the Pats move into FG range.

This is true. But the operative word here is "Bills SB teams" the current Bills are not yet a SB team.

Agree. If opposing Defenses have figured out how to deal with Brady's heavy package then McD is going to have to learn how to embrace the shootout. I've never been a fan of offenses throttling down to protect their D right from the start of the game. Sure in certain situations you have do it but it seems like the Bills are in this mode from the first snap.

You and me both. But living down here in Cincinnati the McD years in Buffalo are looking more and more like the Marvin Lewis years in Cincy. Sure McD has had a lot more playoff success then Lewis but in the end with Buffalo exiting the playoffs before the SB every year the similarities outweigh the differences.

The truth is that this game may mean very little over the course of the season. The Bills were not going 17 - 0 and losing a close game on a last second FG to a rising division power is very common in the NFL. I expect the Bills to right the ship and go on another run and finish 13 - 4 locking up the 1st seed. Our uneasy feeling is that after all the draft picks and signing capital that the Bills have lavished on the D, they still can't be counted on to win a game in which the O is struggling.

It's obvious that as long as he's 500 in the playoffs McD has a job. And that's the dilemma to which there is no answer. I'm fully aware that things could go South real fast if they walk away from McD. I also have a feeling that in spite of having a future HOF QB the Bills are never making the Super Bowl with McD as coach.

I'm not firing a coach whose team makes the conference championship game. The issue is the bar is a lot lower then that in Orchard Park and they will never fire a coach that makes the playoffs every year. .

Sure it was a bad INT after a bad offensive pass interference by Shakir that took the Bills from a 3rd & 1 to a 2nd & 13. But cost us the game? Nonsense. The ball was at the NE TEN YARD LINE! Get a 3 & out and the Bills have the ball near midfield. Allowing the Pats to go 90 yards is what lost the Bills the game. The fact is that the Pats adjusted much better on the offensive side of the ball then the Bills did on the defensive side of the ball. NE scored TD's on their first 2 possessions of the 2nd half on drives of 71 & 90 yards. That contributed far more to losing the game then Allen's INT.

That's the minimum IMO. Of course if the Bills win the division, which I think they will, and the lock up the #3 seed and lose in the divisional round McD's job is safe and we'll be living in the movie Groundhog Day.

I have sadly come to that conclusion to. Look the season is far from over and they could go on and win the Super Bowl. But IMO this is the make or break year. Anything less then an appearance in the AFC Championship game and McD should be let go.