CincyBillsFan

All of the above. To be fair to McD and the Bills they've bought into the concept of load management. The problem is that this concept is still evolving for the NFL and involves one of the most dangerous things you can do in football before a game - assume your opponent sucks and plan accordingly. The Bills would say that while it was stressful at the end they got it right against NE.

Jackson has won the same number of MVP's as Mahomes while Burrow, Stafford & Allen have yet to win one. There is no reasonable argument that can be made claiming Jackson is in any way "underappreciated". It's ridiculous on its face.

I could be wrong but it just doesn't have the same vibe. The Jets aren't playing for their coach or Rogers and the Bills were coming off an intense 4 game stretch of games. A let down against a bad team on paper was bound to happen and it did - last week. I would be surprised and dismayed if McD didn't have them ready fr this game. I also think the Bills will be focused and business like in dealing with the Jets. After all last weeks game was played with the Bills playoff positioning still a bit fuzzy, this week it's clear as glass - beat the Jets, lock up the #2 seed and have an unofficial bye the next week.

Also last week was NE's Super Bowl. After they got up 14 - 0 the Bills went on a 24 - 0 tear for about two and a half quarters.

The Giants were dumb enough to let Barkley go to the Eagles so who knows? But even the Jets can't be that stupid.................right?

And if it doesn't happen I have no doubt that Allen SHOULD be the MVP.

IMO the door was closed after Allen's play in the 4 game stretch against the Chiefs, 49's, Rams & Lions. The ONLY thing IMO that could knock Allen from the top of the MVP hill versus Jackson would be for the Bills to lose the next 2 games and finish behind Baltimore for the #2 seed.

We'll ave to agree to disagree here. Average games against NE & NY that the Bills still win should in no way cancel out the clear fact that Allen has better met the criteria of MVP then Jackson has. And don't be quite so quick to dismiss the "conspiracy" angles here - there is a new thread that just liked to an article that lays out why the author believes there is a racial element in play here. It's regrettable that such a thing has to pop up over this award but it's hard to argue against the articles evidence which IMO is overwhelming.

And why should Allen playing "average" against NE cancel out his two previous otherworldly games against division leaders Detroit & LA on the road? Or how about the 2 games Allen played before those ones beating the Chiefs & 49's? I mean I refuse to believe that those voting for the MVP would be so stupid and ignorant as to assign any special meaning to Allen's average day in a win over NE. So IMO any voter using the excuse that Allen's game against NE cost him is in fact lying and using that excuse as a smokescreen to hide their true reasons for not wanting Allen as the MVP. I don't pretend to know what their motivations are but they're not based on any description of the MVP that I have seen.

He should play a couple of series throwing check downs and handing the ball off to stay sharp and keep his consecutive game starting streak active. But by the end of the 1st quarter he should be on the bench.

Judas Priest, another day on 2BD where people arguing that Allen deserves the MVP over Jackson are called "homers".

The only "lack of awareness" I see on this board is your post here. You're on a Bills message board complaining that Bills Fans are mean to other QB's. Talk about BLIND.

I think it's fair to say that Jackson & Henry lift each other up.

Unfortunately this piece of garbage is typical of the morons that pass themselves off as NFL "expert" talking heads. It's poorly researched contradicting what Allen just said while at the same time slandering who Allen is as a QB.

So this morning I'm listening to ESPN radio's take on yesterday's game and the real smart "expert" NFL hosts are drooling all over Jackson and his remarkable 69 - 24 regular season record! On and on they went and they said that only Mahomes can boast about that sort of regular season record. The talk show lady "expert" threw out Josh Allen & Joe Burrow as examples of Jackson's peers who haven't come close to Jackson's regular season numbers. And all I could think of was this post. And remember folks these are the type of people voting for the MVP.

To be fair Stroud may be the most disappointing QB this season. Sure folks had dreams of Rogers playing like an MVP but after a mediocre last year in GB, missing the next season with a nasty injury, and being over 40 didn't make it likely Rogers would return to form. But there was no reason to think that Stroud wasn't going to get even better.

Tired of the MVP talk - there are enough uncertainties in a season to worry about. Why add in another one controlled by sports journalist morons and NFL "experts"? I would love to see Allen get it but would much rather see success in the playoffs. Oftentimes saying "I told you so" is more satisfying then enjoying the original success. So this is my last comment on the process. According to the odds for MVP: Allen Jackson Barkley Goff Burrow Are the top 5. In the last 4 weeks Allen & Jackson solidified their hold at the top with impressive performances against Division leading opponents on national TV. For Allen, the key skill players in the games were Cook (105 rushing yards vs Rams) & Johnson (114 receiving yards vs Lions). Jackson's leading skill player was King Henry with 162 & 147 yards rushing respectively. BTW, King Henry should be a top 5 MVP candidate with 1783 yards rushing (his 2nd best season ever). The simple fact is that by any objective standard Jackson is partnering with a top 5 MVP level skill player while Allen is not. And this is why I would give Allen the MVP.

I wasn't pulling down Jackson here. I was simply pointing out that if Jackson had gone down in the preseason the Ravens with one of the best RB's in the NFL could have gotten by. After all Tennessee was a regular playoff participant with Tannyhil thanks in no small part to King Henry. Allen goes down who does the Bills O fall back on?

He would trade those incentives in a nanosecond to win a Super Bowl.

This should settle it between Allen & Jackson:

An even more fundamental question these people need to ask themselves is what would Baltimore's record be if Jackson didn't play this year? Then compare that record to what the Bills record would be if Allen didn't play this season. That would decide things real quick IMO.

Rest assured that Allen doesn't give a crap about this stuff. What he really wants is a Super Bowl win and an MVP performance in that game and the playoffs getting there.

And that's basically how it went until the refs inserted themselves into the game in the 4th quarter on both sides of the ball. First they called a bogus holding penalty wiping out a 12 yard run to inside the Pats 30 yard line on what was shaping up t b the game clinching TD drive and then seemed to be working overtime to get the Pats that last TD late in the 4th.

He played well last season in a couple of cold games late. I'm thinking those that said there was a cold/flu going through the team may have it right. Or Shakir after paying so well this season simply had an off game.

How about the NFL.com and ESPN? PFR is wrong here, plain & simple.