Johnnycage46

No, not really. The true death rate based on current available data is about 6%. It will likely change once more data is collected. But right now that is the death rate based on currently collected and released data.

Dude, I said the goddamned data is from the CDC, based on available data...not assumptions (even if those assumptions are from the CDC). I have stated over and over again that the data I reported are based on available numbers. I agree that at the end of the day, the death rate is likely to change as more cases are revealed (which I stated repeatedly in this thread). I have responded to this enough. What I presented, and the way I framed it, is correct (i.e. available data, with the notion that numbers could and likely would change). Thanks for the link. I did see that report. But again, what I presented are the DATA AT THIS TIME. I could not have made that more clear. I did not offer any predictions or theories (such as the CDC is doing in its report)...I just stated the data as it stands as of 5/24/2020 via the CDC website.

Actually, very close. Thanks for stopping by. Read the whole thread. Read the whole thread. It has been stated over, and over, and over again that this is based on current data....which is all we have. The original comment was in reply to other pandemics.

As I stated about 15 times. CONFIRMED cases. That is hard data. Anything else is speculation. I agree the numbers can change over time. Right now, the numbers I reported are accurate.

The CDC is a US entity. Here in the US the death rate as of 5/24/2020 is about 6%. @Augie

And how do you know this all mighty one? The CDC is not the media. I quoted the CDC about 10 times in this thread. I know certain leaders have tried to discredit the CDC but that is just political posturing. My profession is also in data analysis and economics. But really that is moot. The data presented by the CDC is the data presented by the CDC.

Data may be incomplete but it is all we have. I agree there are likely far more cases. We simply only know what the numbers currently say. I also wondered why this was so hard for you (considering, as you first stated, you didn't have a horse in this race). Time will tell. But as I have said all along I am only responding to earlier posts regarding data comparisons and you and Timmy jumped in. Never had a beef with you stew. Good night. Off to watch some crappy Netflix.

Wrong. Like I said, sleepy, the date we have is the date we have. Huh, what does THAT have to do with anything???? Yeah, off the rails. Sorry. Quarantine and kids at home and all. I think it's a no-go for fans but games are on. Good night too. I need to get out of the house. No hard feelings and good discussion all around.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html Current data (CURRENT! for god's sake CURRENT. YES I KNOW IT WILL LIKELY CHANGE) from the CDC. Articles are great but the CDC website is reporting these numbers.

What are the faulty assumptions? The data are based on current statistics. That is how things work. I used cancer mortality rates as an example before. Those data are based on data that has come to pass...it doesn't mean someone with cancer can't beat it...it just means that based on ongoing data the rates are what they are. With these types of things, the data will be ongoing for quite some time. But the current data is what it is regardless of people's feelings or political fears.

Really, "no one with any understanding of stats or how viruses work agree"? And where did you glean this pearl of wisdom. The death rate at this time, with available data, is about 6%. Regardless of how that makes you feel about this upcoming election; the facts, as they stand now, are the facts.

Hi, "he" here. Confirmed cases is a real number. Its what we have to work with. That is how data works. In any data set, we can always wonder about unknowns, but end of day we work with what we have. What do you consider "real data"? Asking for a friend.

The current death rate in the US is based on confirmed cases and total deaths RIGHT NOW. I have stated this ad nauseam. I acknowledge that the death rate is likely to change either higher or lower with more data....but right now...with data available, it is what it is. My initial remarks were in regard to others' claims that other pandemics were deadlier...however, that too is inaccurate if we can't possibly know the death rate until after the virus subsides. And further, I call that all BS. We have cancer mortality rates based on current data...we don't wait until there is a cure for that type of cancer to decide what the "final" death rate is. Lol, just like you right Timmy? Immovable object meets the irresistible force.

Dude. I said. It. Is. Based. On. Confirmed. Cases. I didn't say who did or did not receive tests. The data is based on CONFIRMED cases regardless of what "shape they were in". And I already stated that the death rate is subject to change based on final data. There seems to be a certain leaning to the push back on this.

Actually it CAN. It's like saying you can't calculate your car's gas mileage right now and you have to wait until you sell your car for it to be official. The DEATH RATE OF COVID-19 RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 6%. That is a fact based on available data. Like I said already, those data may change, but right now it is fact. I don't know if you do, but IF you do, please don't single-source your news. It will broaden your world.

It's not based on "only the people who had it the worst". Its based on CONFIRMED cases. At this time, those data are accurate. Those data will likely change as time goes on (either increasing or decreasing the overall death rate). But those are the data we have.

I am not making things up lol. It's ok for you to be wrong buddy. Death rate AT THIS TIME is about 6% compared to less than 1% for the other pandemics you cited. Not ranting. Just responding to people who can't accept facts. It's ok to be wrong. It's OK! God I hope so. I am just so scared.

Well aren't you a big boy. Walmart scares me for many reasons. But in general, selfish, ignorant, and misguided people scare me the most. Edit: sorry, forgot to wish you a great party this weekend. Might want to check the evil media reports of all the new clusters of Covid that keep appearing when morons refuse to follow not only state guidelines, but the President's guidelines. Enjoy!

Here ya go: https://www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/ This is the US CDC for US cases and deaths. Sits at about 5.9% or, as I said about 6%. In my original post I quoted global data that I found through a simple Google search looking for "COVID-19 death rate". The 1% is not accurate. About 6 time too low. Also, your link is 2 weeks out of date, AND a predictive model...NOT actual rate based on actual collected data.

You, I guess??? You used data that by your own admission is an incomplete study....as did I. Then you refuted my take due to incomplete data. So you can't have it both ways. Nope. Also, he said we can't use death rate as we don't yet know the final tally but we CAN use any other parameters to make a point just so long as it is in line with his thinking.

So then we CAN use the incomplete data set to draw parallels? Then the death rate data I presented is still v as laid in this application.

So then it might be best to stop comparing other pandemics to this one until the dust settles. I mean, if we dont yet have all the data, comparisons are pointless.

Don't confuse freedom with selfishness. Freedom to do what you want is your right...but it isn't someone's right to live their free life while endangering others. Comparably...drunk driving....hey man....freedom!!!! And why would anyone trust the government? Most of which are self serving slime balls who will change their "beliefs" at the drop of a hat to stay in office and keep that sweet power.

The scariest part to me is how it seems like a lot of people are putting their own little selfish needs before the health of others. For example, my neighbor here in Henrietta (suburb of Rochester) has about 15 cars worth of people at her (presumed) Memorial Day party. I get that we all want to get back to normal, but the more people start to stray outside the lines, the more likely it would seem that we'll all have a longer lock-down, no live events (including the NFL), and continued quarantine misery. Sucks.

Both of those pandemics had a global death rate below 1%. Whereas COVID-19 currently has a global death rate of ~6%. Can't just look at the total number of deaths. The death rate is a more significant factor.