LyndonvilleBill

NFL Mock Database. I like this one better.Only 1 small trade down.😉 25. Traded for 29,103&243 KC. 29. K. Gordon CB Washington 57. A. Pierce WR Cincinnati 89. B. Smith LB Penn State 103. R. White RB Arizona State 130. J. Ruckert TE Ohio State 168. C. Hines OG LSU 185. D. Gray WR SMU 203. S. Weatherford S Miami Ohio 231. M. McCall DT Kentucky 243. J. Camarda P Georgia

NFL Mock Draft Database. Made a few trades. KC wanted to play nice as they felt bad.😉 25. Traded to KC for 29,103&251 for 29 29. K. Gordon CB Washington 57. Trade 57&103 for 50&135 KC 50. A. Pierce WR Cincinnati 77. Traded up used 89&130 Vikings 77. T. Anderson LB Montana St. 135. C. Otton TE Washington 168. T. Anderson S Toledo 185. D. Rosenthal OT Kentucky 203. L. Bruss OG Wisconsin 231. J. Thomson CB Texas 251. Z. Horvath RB Purdue

Daniel Bellinger TE San Diego state. Good measurables (6'5" 253lbs), good blocker, soft hands, RAS score of 9.49. Late round pick. Also Zander Horvath RB (FB) Purdue. Like him to replace Moss and Gilliam. 1 player, 2 spots filled.

Posted this in the Mock Drafts thread but haven't received any responses. May be better to post in a thread more people are interested in. There is a lot of discussions regarding reaching, value and 5th year options. So my question is, At what point is considered a reach? Poor Value? Versus having the 5th year option? For instance (just using a player, not saying right or wrong). You can use any top 5-10 pick of the 2nd round you like. Kyler Gordon. Most project as a top of the 2nd rnd pick. Would it really be a bad choice/reach to take him at 25 and get the 5th year option if you are unable to find a trade back partner?

Camarda (UGA). Agree, would be a very good choice. Not quite the leg of Araiza, but I think I saw 50% of his punts were inside the 20, averaged over 46 yards and has kicked punts of over 60. Not sure you need anything more than that for how often we punted last year.😁

I wouldn't take them at 25. I'm thinking more of a small trade down in the 1st to pick up a late 3rd and then use 57 and the extra 3rd to move up in the 2nd.

Exactly. One of the reasons why I prefer Watson or Pierce over the others.

25. Traded for 29,103 & 251 KC 29. K. Gordon CB Washington 50. Traded back up. 57 & 103 to KC 50. A. Pierce WR Cincinnati 89. T. Anderson LB Montana St 130. C. Otton TE Washington 168. C. Hines IOL LSU 185. D. Rosenthal OT Kentucky 203. J. Thompson CB/S Texas 231. Z. Horvath RB Purdue 251. J. Camarda P Georgia

I like Watson and Pierce. Big, fast and Great RAS scores. Right up our alley.

There is a lot of discussions regarding reaching, value and 5th year options. So my question is, At what point is considered a reach? Poor Value? Versus having the 5th year option? For instance (just using a player, not saying right or wrong). You can use any top 5-10 pick of the 2nd round you like. Kyler Gordon. Most project as a top of the 2nd rnd pick. Would it really be a bad choice/reach to take him at 25 and get the 5th year option if you are unable to find a trade back partner?

Just take it out of all their hands and go with special teams and soccer style. FG's starting at the 30, move back 5 yards after each successful kick. Punters are football players too. ROTFL!!!😱🤣🤣🤣

Now watch. It will be 3-5 years before we see OT in a playoff game.😂

Love their write ups on the players and their player rankings seems pretty good, but their predictive board seems off a bit. Try using player ranking instead of predictive board. You may see a bit of difference. 🤔

I am not saying he didn't do his 1/11th. He did great in a limited sample size and hardly any wear on his body at the end of a season. I Was trying to find an old article back from the playoffs that said pretty much what I did and if I come across it, I'll post the link. But an ESPN article stated that Bates had a 93% pass win rate but only a 59% rush win rate (link below). I'd like a little more balance. I love having him, it just seems most people think he's the missing link and I don't agree (at least at this point). He was the mightiest of the midgets we had on the team and that wasn't a high bar to reach. I still think we need to draft a t/g that has some meat to him. At just over 300lbs, seems pretty lean to me for a starting guard. Weren't people unhappy when Feliciano came in lighter than expected and he was still heavier than Bates? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33586248/chicago-bears-sign-buffalo-bills-og-ryan-bates-offer-sheet-source-says%3fplatform=amp

I'm with you for the most part on this. Love the Bates signing and was all for it. But he's an average run blocker (too light in the pants) but he's a very good pass blocker. Hasn't played a full season as a starter. Will he wear down? Our line got better when he came in, but, Dawkins also got healthier around the same time and started playing to expectations. Bates played better than Ford, Feliciano and Boetteger, but that's not hard to do. Made less mistakes. Also the OL change how they played. Improved running game helped as well (chicken or the egg.🤔). He's also currently our backup center. If we didn't extend Morse or he retired, I think Bates was plan A. Heaven forbid something happens to Morse and we have to shift him to center. Then what? Ford to RG? I'm hopeful that Ford can improve with a new coach, but, not sure I want to have him as the only option. Boetteger? Have not really heard much of how he's doing after his injury. Are we sure if he will even be ready to play this season or when. Still want a T/G maybe 4th rnd or later though.

I like Gordon in the 1st. But if they go WR, I like Woolen in the 2nd. Late swing, 7th or UDFA Josh Thomson out of Texas. Decent speed 4.43, mainly a zone corner though, but could play safety.

Not sure which simulator your using or if you are trying different ones. Personally I like the NFL Mock Draft Database as it doesn't use one person or one sites player rankings or opinions. Not perfect but uses more data points.

I'm not ruling out a RB as you can see in my mocks. My comment was in response to a RD1 or 2 and based upon who we already have on the roster. RD 1 rb? No thanks. None worth it. RD 2, Hall will be gone before 57 and don't think the value is there to move up above 45 to get him. (Not worth giving up a 3rd to move up). Walker is in my opinion no better than what we have other than a little faster (poor blocker). Rather stick with Moss and Motor. Value might be there in rd 3&4 if we want to try and upgrade Jones or Johnson with someone that has a little more speed and a longer term solution. But based upon who we have already, I could see them taking an additional OL, WR, CB, S or LB over a RB depending on who is available. Just wouldn't be shocked if they didn't draft a RB this year. All a matter of opinion. 😉

My opinion, absolutely. Motor, Moss, Johnson and Jones are already on the roster. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we didn't draft a RB at all this year. Next year I think would be the year to go RB. Motor has earned his spot in my opinion and deserves this year to prove it. As to Allen running less, multiple factors there. Better OL, Better Coaching and Better WR all would lead to less running for Allen.

TDN. I like this one.😉 1st 4 are on the BF Freak list. Not a bad way to start.😁 25. K. Gordon CB Washington 57. A. Pierce WR Cincinnati 89. B. Smith LB Penn State 130. R. White RB Arizona State 168. C. May's IOL Tennessee 185. D. Bellinger TE SD State 203. N. Grant S Virginia 246. C. Hines IOL LSU

NFL Mock Draft Database. Disclamer: Active trading.😉 25. Traded down for 29,103&251 W/KC 29. K. Gordon CB Washington Trade up. 57&103 for 47 Washington 47. C. Watson WR ND State 89. B. Smith LB Penn State Trade up. 130&185 for 120 Saints 120. C. Strange OG Chattanooga 168. Traded down for 180&198 Jacksonville 180. D. Bellinger TE SD State 198. M. Araiza P SD State 203. L. Bruss OL Wisconsin 231. J. Thompson CB/S Texas 251. Z. Horvath RB/FB Purdue

TDN. 25. K. Gordon CB Washington 57. D. Beavers LB Cincinnati 89. C. Strange IOL Chattanooga 130. A. Pierce WR Cincinnati 168. J. Thompson CB/S Texas 185. C. Mays IOL/T Tennessee 203. D. Bellinger TE SD State 248. A. Barnes Edge V-Tech

Do you play the lottery? About the same chance of getting it right. But still fun do dream. So if I get 1 right, I feel like I won.😁. For some of us (me), I like them because I don't really watch college ball. It gives me a reason to research players, see who else people mention for additional research. All in all for some of us older fans, I think they are good and keeps us busy. Kind of like a hobby this time of year.😉

TDN. Trades offered by that team, not my offers. I think they are a little off but who am I to say no.😉. Would be an excellent draft in my opinion though. 25. Traded for 37 & 68 Texans 37. C. Watson WR ND State 57. T. Woolen CB Washington 68. Traded for 71 & 148 71. B. Smith LB Penn State 89. Traded for 90 & 2023 5th Titans 90. J. Ford RB Cincinnati 130. C. Strange OG Chattanooga 148. M. Bell S FL A&M 168. C. Hines OG LSU 185. A. Barno Edge V-Tech 203. J. Watson CB Washington State 231. B. Melton WR Rutgers

Nope. Might be his plan... He doesn't want Jones either as his QB. Between Feliciano and Brieda blocking, Jones may not make it to week 3. Easy way out. Thank goodness he's got Tuhrod and Webb on the roster. That Diabolical Daboll...🤣🤣🤣