RocCityRoller

I didn't want Allen. I also didn't want Rosen or Jackson. My preferences were: Darnold Mayfield Rudolph With Mayfield and Darnold gone, and Buffalo moving up to 7 I knew it would be Allen, which was the best of Allen/Rosen/Jackson to me. I am leary of the sub 58.5% final year completion rate. It's got about a 0.9 correlation with success or failure in the NFL (very high correlation). But I took a day to absorb it and started looking for best case scenario comparables. I needed to find a big country boy, with escape ability, a big arm, a cheery disposition, a gunslinger mentality (will take chances, throw some wow TDs and some head slapping INTS), and underwhelming college stats against fairly weak college competition. I found the best case comp I can hope for. Final college year stat comparison: QB A - 150 CMP/ 275 ATT - 54.5%, 1572 YARDS, 5.7 Y/A, 7 TD, 6 INT 106.6 RATE QB B - 152 CMP/ 270 ATT - 56.3%, 1812 YARDS, 6.7 Y/A, 16 TD, 6 INT 127.8 RATE QB A is Brett Favre, QB B is Josh Allen Those of you younger fans know of Brett Favre the Hall of Fame QB, but he had a very bumpy start. His first game action was Nathan Peterman esque. 0 comp on 4 attempts, 2 INTS, a sack and an incompletion. He was so bad Atlanta gave up on him after a year, he never saw the field again for them. Their coach didn't even want him drafted. GB had wanted him and took him. IMO our best case scenario with Allen is Favre. It's the most honest best case benchmark I can find. Favre was a light hearted, big armed, scrambling gunslinger. He would make wow plays and some real head scratchers. GB won with Favre and often lost with Favre. We have to let Josh Allen be Josh Allen. Favre's first year was effectively a sit year (played in the one 'Peterman' game in Atlanta). His first two years as a starter (yrs 2-3 in the NFL) were ok: 13 games (8-5) 302 CMP/ 471 ATT - 64.1%, 3227 YARDS, 6.9 Y/A, 18 TD, 13 INT 85.3 RATE 16 games (9-7) 318 CMP/ 522 ATT - 60.9%, 3303 YARDS, 6.3 Y/A, 19 TD, 24 INT 72.2 RATE That's a whopping 62% completion rate, 37 tds to 37 ints, 17-12 record. That was in year 2 and 3. When Favre retired he had improved but retired with the most INTS thrown in NFL history. But Favre was always looking to keep plays alive, ran a round like a chicken with his head cut off and always looked downfield for a big play, and a times trusted his arm too much. Looking at Allen's college film the past two days, this is what I see with Allen. The GB coaching staff had to reign in Favre at times, I think we will see that with Allen too.We will also see dazzling plays and head scratching Ints. I think Favre is our best case scenario for Allen. If we get close to that then Allen will be a spectacular pick. Another note, Cam Newton another comparable also has similar traits. Notice how Carolina helps Cam with his accuracy issues by getting big receivers with a large catch radius? Favre's favorite target in his early years wasn't a WR but Sharpe, a big fast TE with a large catch radius. (EDIT Sharpe was a big bodied WR with a big catch radius, I was corrected per below, but the point stands) Benjamin and Jones (that was his calling card in college) do fit that bill. Well, I just wanted to share that for what it's worth. Welcome to Buffalo Josh Allen. I hope we are patient enough to see you blossom into the QB you can become.

And a lot of those guys failed. Lets look at the list of some guys who did get to wait, in the relatively modern era Tom Brady - 17 Aaron Rogers - 48 Patrick Mahomes - 16 Brett Favre - 19 Jay Cutler - 12 maybe a key is to be patient and sit

imo he will need clean pockets and a system based on timing, then he will be excellent if not...

Josh Rosen, is that you?

you think #34 fan is bad Rob's House gave the Edmunds pick an F- !

Buffalo got the #1 pick!!!!!

Bills were at his Pro Day, but hey continue on your Warpath of misery.

nope drafted in the 5th by Miami

Akrum Wadley to Titans, could be a nice lightning to Henry's thunder.

There goes Luke Falk

that's a bit harsh

Wrong Clemson WR Buffalo.... Meanwhile ESB and Tate are sitting there if you want to go WR this late..... WTF?

that is what I was referring to a poster said 'the WR Buffalo wanted just got drafted' someone replied Cain? (which is what I quoted and replied to) and said: No Marquez Valdes-Scantling from South Florida

No Marquez Valdes-Scantling from South Florida Cain must have video of him peeing on Russian hookers or something Mike White QB to Cowboys

Tim Settle DT finally gets drafted at 5th round. Great value there IMO

Crosby to Lions

I see him in a Geo Bernard type role, something we need as a spark plug. And 5'10 and a hair under 200 isn't bad size.

I could see week 12 after the bye-week

I like Skyler Phillips G as a 6th to 7th Sproles is 5'6 190 Wadley is 5'10 195 Past two years Rushing 2190 yds/ 20 TDs Receiving 650+ yards and 6 TDs on a team w/o much other offensive talent

Hurst and Griffen go, can be great value picks if either pan out

I wanted Richardson at that point, that's why I wasn't thrilled, but McBeane have shown good talent evaluation on D sooo.

you missed the point, he wasn't listed at all as being on the roster. derp.

hey it counts as a pass break-up

Where did Phillip Gaines go?

IMO Would rather have Wadley Agree, thought CB was a need, but IMO that was draft for need, not BPA.