RocCityRoller

I don't think it's 'Chiefs Hate' and RIP DT, but he was marginal against the run. I don't recall him dropping back against the pass much. His 1 INT in 11 seasons would help back this up. He did force 40 or so fumbles, but I think a lot of those were sack fumbles, not sure. Lastly DT did play 11 seasons, not sure how many seasons he had left. A fine pass rusher, one of the best pass rushing LBs this side of Lawrence Taylor, but LT was pretty nasty against the run too. DT's FF and FR count add to his legacy, and he deserves a place on this list. Biscuit deserves to be noted among the best too. He was above average at everything, but never stood out at any one thing, which is why I don't think he is in the HOF. Biscuits numbers were never eye opening, but his big plays almost always came at critical times. Ray Lewis is top 3-5 IMO.

Well, I'll have to wait and see. PFF had Bodine as the #25 starting C, not great. Groy was rated as a Guard but unranked due to lack of playing time. I think Adam Redmond may be in the mix too for one if the G-C-G positions. I do think Groy is one of the top 5 or 6 OL Buffalo has, and should probably be a starter. Bodine and Groy are both on 2yr $5 million dollar contracts (Groy yr 2, Bodine yr 1) and neither was drafted by the Bills. May the best man win.

Fair, but I will counter by asking you this: If he was that bad why would they start him for every single game from day one and not replace him before four years? Maybe the Bengals don't put a premium on resigning O-linemen? Sounds ridiculous but they let a pro-bowl OT Whitworth and a very good OG Zietler go, both are fine O-linemen. In fact the Bengals haven't seemed big on resigning a lot of thier own offensive players: AJ McArron, Mo Sanu, Marvin Jones, Jeremy Hill etc.

Yeah me too, but Burple is stating he thinks Peterman has a legit shot at starting. By his own line he is stating Peterman: 1% Allen: 28% AJ: 71% which is actually reasonable, but no way to back-up your beliefs LOL

LOL - isn't Peterman #2? So you're asking for 28 : 1 odds?

Folks, I don't see how Bodine is not the starting Center. Since being drafted he has started all 64 games in his four years. You don't sign a successful four year starter from day one to be depth, just like a 4 year day one starter does not sign a contract at the peak of their career to be a backup. He was fine, and the Bengal offense was fine, and rather well balanced (run/pass). The problem the last year or two is that the Bengals lost two tackles an a pro-bowl level guard. Bengals also lost Marvin Jones and Mo Sanu, two WRs who were pretty good at getting separation. Bodine will be the starting C. Groy is backup C. I would like to see Groy and Teller get some time at LG.

Yup, lets see what Foster, Dupree, Proehl have before signing other team's busts, over the hill guys or JAGs. If we have a JAG WR corps I'd rather them be young with upside and lower cap hits.

I liked Streater a lot last year, but he is 30 and has a history of missing time with injuries: Concussion 2013, foot surgery 2014, leg 2017 I'd rather roll with young guys who could be productive for a longer period and create chemistry with my new QBs. Forgot about Kerley to help stabilize the WRs. KB, Kerley, Foster, Dupree and Proehl with Jones on PUP until he shows an understanding of the new offense. I'm ok with that.

Oh, I wasn't implying that. I think KirbyJackson and I are saying, we know what we have in JAGs like Holmes and Streater etc. Roll with KB and some young guys who were 5 star recruits but were in situations where productivity didn't match skill (Foster, Dupree, etc) and go with them. Most folks here consider this either a bridge year with AJ or a learning year with Allen. Loads of $$$ and all picks to pry a WR or two with top talent next year if none of these guys develop. If one or two produce, one less hole to fill. Teams roll with young WRs all the time. Not sure with where to count Zay Jones considering the surgery news today.

The piano player's out the music stopped His boy had beef and he got dropped

Stop that!

Vince Papale says hi ?

I've been a fan of Dupree since he rose from unknown to one of the pre-draft darlings last year. Kind of like Foster, good tools and measurables, but weak college production. I thought it was a good under the radar move last year when they grabbed him after Green Bay cut him. I'm all for a youth movement at WR. Let the young guys play and show what they can do. Wouldn't be surprised to see a mix of Dupree, Foster and Proehl as 2 of the 5 or 6 WRs on the roster.

Limeaid taught me about a drink mix called Burple! Too a-propos ?

He prefers rocks

The Green Bay Packers and KC Chiefs play in two of the oldest stadiums and are pretty competitive.

Prediction - We will see more inane prediction threads and UDFA love fests over the next few months during the slow part of the off-season

looks like a savvy business move to start talks with Erie County and NYS

You may be onto something. OJ, Zay Jones both way out in California. Though it wouldn't explain Cyrus Kouandjio. I do want to make a pool to guess what Buffalo Bill will be found naked and raving around like a nut case before the next off-season

I see what you did there ?

Well, looks like the court of public opinion is WRONG AGAIN There is a reason why a lot of people let DUE PROCESS AND FACTS come out before publicly convicting them Reuben Foster is no saint, but people get ruined by this type of stuff very frequently. Often it ends up be nothing more than false accusations and libel. It also demeans the women who are actual victims of crime who are strong enough to come forward. Reuben Foster’s ex-girlfriend will testify that she lied to police about him Posted by Michael David Smith on May 15, 2018, 12:38 PM EDT Getty Images The ex-girlfriend of 49ers linebacker Reuben Foster is prepared to testify under oath that she was lying when she told police that he assaulted her. That’s the word from attorney Stephanie Rickard, who told the Sacramento Bee that her client, Elissa Ennis, will appear in court on Thursday and testify that she was lying when she said Foster hit her. Ennis was injured when police arrived to take her statement, but she now says she suffered those injuries in a fight with another woman, not with Foster. It is unclear whether prosecutors will still attempt to pursue charges against Foster. He faces three felony charges, one for domestic violence, one for attempting to prevent Ennis from reporting a crime, and one for possessing an assault weapon. He could still face legal jeopardy for the assault weapon, even if prosecutors do not move forward on the two other charges. Meanwhile, Ennis could face charges for lying to police, although a legal analyst contacted by the Sacramento Bee said prosecutors are unlikely to pursue such charges. And there it is, ruin someone in the kangaroo court of social media as we have seen here, and walk away unscathed.

I think it is called Burple, a new synthetic from China

usually people are murdered until they are dead ?

Happens to me all the time. What was really bad is Favre couldn't beat out Billie Joe Tolliver ' Winner-winner psycho chicken dinner?'

Outstanding Resevoir Dogs reference, and so fitting. Whoa, I was thinking the exact same thing