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To the first question, it's an insanely deep WR class. This means that (1) WRs could slide as there won't be a rush to grab one immediately and or (2) he can be a very good prospect while still only being like the #5 or worse WR in the class. To the second, Against press coverage, he basically just tries to use his speed to run around the DB on the outside. It worked in college, but I think he's average in terms of speed at the next level, so he'll need to learn other techniques if he wants to play as an X WR. He doesn't sell his routes or separate very well on his cuts. In the games I watched, he looked allergic to blocking (though Astro specifically says blocking is one of Shenault's strengths so maybe I just caught the wrong games) and when the play was designed to the other side of the field, he let the defense know right off the snap by half-assing his decoy routes. He's had issues with injuries. He needs a lot of work on the technical parts of the job and he didn't seem to improve on that this season (his fans will say this is because he was hurt, but for whatever it's worth, he was adamant that he was pretty much 100% healthy this year and simply didn't play well). That all probably comes off as harsh, and I am admittedly not a fan of using our first round pick on him (at least with our current roster construction), but I think the case FOR taking him would be: Daboll loves versatility in his players; think of the times we'd go no-huddle this year and have our FB, TEs, and RBs line up out wide and then either snap the ball or motion them back in and stuff. Shenault has lined up literally everywhere; he's a perfect fit for where it seems Daboll wants the offense to eventually get to. Buffalo was among the worst in the league in terms of creating plays after the catch this year; that is probably Shenault's best skill at the moment. Shenault has physically grown over the past few years; he was listed at 6'0" 195 when he was in high school and is now listed at 6'2" 220. It's not easy to develop your skills while you're still physically growing, so he might be sort of a late-bloomer development wise (and is already pretty good where he is right now). I don't think he's the athletic freak that others seem to (some think he'll run in the 4.3's, I think he'll be like a 4.53-4.58), but he's tall, strong, and pretty fast; he checks basically all of the physical boxes Beane likely has for a WR. Until his skills develop more, I think he can still be utilized in an AJ Brown type role; keep it simple, get the ball in his hands through quick hitters/manufactured passes, and let him make plays after the catch. If we sign/trade for an established X receiver, we won't need Shenault to be a go-to guy right away and can let him develop his skills while still being successful early on. Added bonus that if we have the X spot filled, we can essentially have Shenault fill in as the backup at the X, Y, and Z. If we do bring in an X WR, I would be a lot more in favor of taking Shenault for us. Absent that though, there will be other WRs available at #22 and probably at #54 that I would prefer over him.

Yeah this is basically where I land. I think the Saints are just trying to hype him up so they can get more compensation in return for him. I’m gonna go ahead and call BS on the idea that they view the 30 year old backup to their backup as a franchise QB. Aside from the one flukey bomb he completed, they’re basically petrified of ever letting him throw the ball in one of the most QB-friendly systems in the league.

Yeah, he's supposedly up in the NW tip of Florida. Point being, there isn't a team that makes sense geographically speaking. Seems like he's likely not going to live at home next season or he'll be retiring from football.

If the rumors of where he moved to are true, Nashville, New Orleans, and Atlanta are all closer to his new home than the Florida teams. He's not really close to any NFL team. Would be like driving in from NYC to play for the Bills every day.

A lot of it is just public information. I've tried to track this this season and almost everything he has in terms of scouts was found online from schools tweeting out who is at their games and stuff. There were definitely a few that I never found public record of though. Doesn't mean it's not out there somewhere; just means I personally never found it.

If his market ends up not being too crazy, I'd have no issue with bringing him in. I would just want it to be more of a flier on him rather than investing long-term money.

The power they run with despite how short they are is similar. CEH seems to have more speed and far better receiving skills though. As OP mentioned, I think he probably gets taken too early for us, but I would also love to have him on the team. Think we go in a different direction though.

I watch the Bucs almost every week. I'm still highly skeptical of Perriman because he looked like crap up until those last few games when he was thrust into a big role, but to be fair, he really did look outstanding in those games. He made some ridiculously good catches and was obviously very productive. Also, his true catch rate of 83.7% is pretty good: #38 in the league in that metric. Yards/catch and Yards/target were #6 and #21 respectively. He really did turn it on in those last 5 games; I'm just nervous about committing much to him because he had basically been terrible for the previous 4 or 5 years or whatever it's been, including most of this past season. It's possible that he's really turned the corner, but I would probably just opt for drafting a couple rookies and or signing/acquiring an established good WR.

Sikkema, the guy that wrote Cleveland's scouting report, didn't write one on Metcalf, but their resident WR expert had this to say: https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/kelly--full-2019-nfl-draft-wide-receiver-rankings

He’s a favorite of PFF. Think they had him like top 15 in their mock or something like that.

Yep, for sure. I think that also just kinda happens in a class like this where there's so many relatively high-level QB prospects. People will beat other QBs down to raise the guy they like up. I'll be astonished if Herbert slides out of the first round and pretty surprised if he slides out of the top 15. I expect he'll be the 3rd or 4th QB taken (think it's between him and Love). I just personally am not relatively high on him (still a 1st round grade, but just barely).

Like you, just an initial take. I have my full scouting reports done on Burrow, Herbert, Hurts, and Patterson, but that's all so far. I have Burrow tied with Lamar Jackson as my 2nd highest rated QB of the past 4 drafts (Mahomes being #1). Herbert, Hurts, and Patterson are all a long ways behind him; I have Herbert on the fringe of the first round (which would be the lowest grade for anyone that's actually been taken in the 1st round these past 4 years), Hurts as a 2nd-3rd round pick, and Patterson more like a 3rd or 4th (though I suspect I'm much higher on him than most are as it seems like a lot of people think he has zero hope whatsoever). I still have to finish the rest, but I suspect that Love and Fromm will both be ahead of Herbert for me and Eason probably close to him.

I think this is all probably true, but I just want our first WR of the draft to be more refined personally. He certainly has the tools to be a good and versatile WR, but I'm not really sure he's productive early on outside of manufactured touches (which, to be fair, would be great to get more of in our offense lol). I just think you can find what he can provide today pretty easily around the league. What he could potentially develop into is much harder to find but I haven't really seen much reason to assume he gets there.

I mentioned this in my updates of the schools that we've sent scouts to throughout the year; seems significant that we are one of 4 teams that are publicly known to have made a trip to Lenoir-Rhyne (obviously to see Dugger specifically). Seems like it might be something to keep an eye on, though his inclusion at the Senior Bowl suggests the cat might be out of the bag in terms of teams sleeping on him too much. And I wish we could justify taking a DT again so that we could take Kinlaw, but I suspect he might be out of our range anyways and I can't see us taking another first round DT even though he looks like a great one.

I think he's a lock to get in, but I think the Hall of Fame should be more exclusive than it is, and in such a world, he would not be considered a Hall of Famer.

He definitely came up big in the playoff game. Like I said, I wouldn't be cutting him immediately, but I would bring in competition to see if you can do better. We could certainly be in a worse spot as far as kickers go, but again, if you can't trust them 50+ yards out, you should be looking for a replacement IMO.

I wouldn't draft anybody, but I think we should try to replace Bojo. As far as Haushka goes, my philosophy with kickers is that if you don't trust them in the 50-60 yard range, you have a kicker problem. We clearly do not trust Haushka. We should be bringing in competition for him and be prepared to cut him if the competition beats him out.

Yeah, I think one of the NFL.com writers mentioned earlier in the year that NFL Scouts refer to Love as this year's Patrick Mahomes or Patrick Mahomes 2.0 or something like that. I definitely remember it being talked up ahead of his national TV game earlier in the season when Utah State got dominated. I haven't watched enough of him yet, but I've definitely seen some of the good #DraftTwitter guys breaking down some of the extreme highs you get with Love. He's got the physical tools for sure. I can't imagine my grade for him will be anywhere near Mahomes though, who remains my highest graded QB of the past 4 years.

Chris Godwin was the #1 rated WR by PFF this year; they have two elite WRs in place for whoever the QB is. Two talented TEs. Their offensive line blossomed this year after seemingly a decade of being among the worst in the league. Ali Marpet has always been a stud, but the rest of the group all played average or above-average this season. The defense as a whole was above-average, and was particularly good down the stretch with Vita Vea blossoming into one of the best young DTs in the league, Jamel Dean playing at an elite level the second half of the year, Shaq Barrett obviously having a monster year, and LaVonte David being his usual elite self. They have a lot of talent on that team; just too many turnovers or they probably would have been in the playoffs.

It really only makes sense if Tampa is looking to cut costs at the QB position or wants to draft a QB and view Rivers as a better mentor. Rivers is almost certainly a downgrade compared to Jameis and is obviously like 12+ years older too. At any rate, Rivers reportedly moved close to Panama City; that's a very long commute to play for Tampa. Nashville, Atlanta, New Orleans and Jacksonville are all closer.

Collin left a major impression on me a few years back when he first burst on the scene. Seems like he never really made the leap after that unfortunately but he's still a WR I'd be interested in.

A couple WRs I'm keeping an eye on this week:

I've only seen a handful of his games and have been kinda lukewarm on him in general; you think he might be able to be like a Vincent Jackson type maybe if he develops the right way?

I wouldn't be shocked if he declines to run the cone/shuttle after what happened to DK.

I think I read somewhere that those details generally come out at the end of Senior Bowl week. For now, we only know that he, Ashtyn Davis, and one other player were flagged and are now out for the week.