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He sucked. Slow as crap and big reason we lost the Jacksonville game. I don't know why he still has supporters. He held us back quite a bit and didn't fight for his teammates. And was excited to maybe become a Patriot. Anyone who would prefer to have him over Edmunds really doesn't understand projection and upside, or football for that matter. Many of the run fit issues Edmunds has, PB also had. Plus he sucked in coverage and was a poor fit for the defense. 3 things I will never understand: Why people thought PB was a good player. His super cold FA market proved otherwise. Why people thought Nathan Peterman had potential. I don't know what to say. Why Chris Trappaso thought Mason Rudolph was the best QB in the 2018 draft. The league decided he was a 3rd round pick and lost the #2 job to Josh Dobbs. Doesn't even dress.

That thought actually crossed my mind as well, but he's under contract at a somewhat reasonable amount for a couple of more years. Not sure they would do it, unless there was something behind the scenes or they were up against a salary cap crunch.

he looked like he wanted to cry

I think the sweet spot is signing guys who are young vets. Guys like Conley, Humphries etc. who have been around a bit and ready to break out. Trading for a Tyler Boyd or Josh Doctson. Surrounding the rookie quarterback with a bunch of rookies won't help him along as much in my opinion. They key is bringing in the young, hungry, athletic veterans.

He's such an a-hole. It was fun seeing his face after they Steelers came back on them.

I love that guy. He's as fast as Deonte Thompson, but significantly bigger. A 45 inch vert. Plus the guy is super smart and interesting and huge comic fan. I just want him on my team. I'm all in on him. He is my FA man crush.

I could see Philly giving up on Nelson Agholor during his fifth year option year. I could see the Bengals putting AJ Green out there for sale. He is nearing the end of his contract and they may want to try and trade him before he leaves. Kenny Stills from Miami could be a target. he is being underutilized and could provide a deep threat option for Allen. I like some of the more under the radar free agents. Chris Conley, Adam Humphries, and Jamison Crowder. I really love Conley and he would be one of my first targets. He's a bit buried in KC and still has 4 TDs this year. I would like to see what he could do when an offense focuses a bit more on him. We also have an opportunity to upgrade at tight end. I'm probably going after Maxx Williams, who is still very young and developing, or Baltimore's other tight end, Nick Boyle. I don't think they try to bring back either guy.

He did run for a lot of yards, and made just enough plays to beat us in the playoffs. Just saying.

He's technically replacing Ramon Humber. I like it. Not much on teh market at linebacker right now and if nothing else, he will help with special teams.

Im just having some fun!

Agreed. It seems like they aren't really using Lewis the right way. I thought Matt LaFleur would do a lot more. I guess he really was just Sean McVay's caddie.

I have no idea how to link stuff but there is a forty four yard pass against the Vikings. A bit underthrown. https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2018/10/28/new-orleans-saints-minnesota-vikings-michael-thomas-taysom-hill/

He's been hurt a lot, but what I saw today was a pocket collapsing in from poor tackle play. Again two top ten picks, plus Josh Kline and Quinton Spain who is probably a premier free agent guard this offseason. Something there isn't working. Honestly I just think they don't have enough talent on offense outside of Corey Davis.

He ran a 4.44 at 230 lbs so there is certainly something there. But I think it's all about Sean Payton finding and athlete and being creative. Unfortunately, Hill would never work here because he is a Mormon. Not McDermott's cup of tea. ??

Im just saying, the dude is always hurt. Thats the point I was trying to make in the Jonah Williams thread. They spent two top ten picks on bookend tackles and he still gets his ass kicked. Using premier picks on linemen doesn't always help.

Two top ten tackles and he's still hurt. Is he getting smashed? Is it just a freak thing? Or is it that Mariota is soft?

He will definetly be a coach one day

100 percent this. Even though Peterman sucks, he did understand the offense. This makes sense as a move for intel.

I have to respectfully disagree. Aside from a couple of elite players, a lot of those guys are busts. I listed 18 guys. Out of them Smith and Johnson are elite. That's two guys and they happen to be elite athletes. Matthews, Lewan, Stanley, Conklin, Scherff, and Nelson are very good to great. I can't call Nelson elite yet because it's too early, but he's probably is. But they all have some issues and, aside from Johnson, haven't won their teams anything. Out of that entire list, there is 1 super bowl winning lineman. Two if you count Chance Warmack on the Eagles, who btw is a massive bust and played 4 snaps in the big game. McClinchey has been ok. My main point is do not draft guards or right tackles in the top ten unless they are elite. Even then it may not help. Joe Thomas might be one of the best tackles of all time. He played on the same line with one of the best centers of all time in Alex Mack. That sure did the Browns a lot of good. Anthony Munoz's teams never won anything. The teams with with the highest graded lines this year, Steelers, Packers, Rams...none of them have a top ten drafted offensive linemen on their team. To me, it is a poor use of assets. Late first, to early second is where you get value with linemen. You have to find pieces that fit. Top ten picks are lottery tickets that should not be used to plug holes. If you want to plug holes, trade down. If Jonah Williams is a can't miss elite player, I'm good with it. But if there are question marks about him, it is a poor use of assets and not worth the risk. Again, this is simply my opinion and philosophy when it comes to the draft.

Just look at top ten offensive lineman the last few years. 2018- Nelson has been very good but was advertised as elite. McGlinchey has been okay at RT. 2017- none. First guy taken was Garret Bolles and he has been awful. 2016- Ronnie Stanley looks pretty good as does Conklin. Both have been hurt. Neither team has won anything. 2015- Scherff looks like an excellent RG but isn't hurt. Team has won nothing. Erick Flowers was #9 overall. Think the Giants want that one back. 2014- Greg Robinson anyone? Jake Mathews has been okay and helped team get to the SB. Lewan was #11 and is very good but been injured. 2013- Lane Johnson has been excellent and helped his team win a SB. The rest? Fisher, Joeckel, Cooper, Warmack. Gross. DJ Fluker went #11, also a terrible pick. 2012- Matt Khalil...terrible. Think the Vikings would rather have Luke Keuchly or Fletcher Cox? 2011 - Tyron Smith, elite left tackle. No Super Bowls. Again, I know this is an imperfect sample, but when you look at the best offensive lines in football, their guys come from all over the draft. You need to find the pieces that fit. Unless you are getting a guaranteed elite talent, don't blow the pick on offensive linemen. I know there are busts at other positions, but the majority of talented lineman in the leaugue do not come from the top ten of the draft.

Our 3-7 (worst team in the league who can't beat Alabama) team also kicked the crap out of them and they couldn't move our defense at all. I get what you are saying, but they will never win a Super Bowl because they don't have a enough talent. I'm thinking big picture, and they haven't won squat.

I don't mind drafting Williams there, but he better be elite. A high first round pick needs to be used on quarterbacks, edge players, elite offensive talent, left tackles. I hate the idea of drafting a guard or right tackle that high in the draft. A lot of people point to the Titans drafting Lewan and Conklin, people were very excited about trying to draft Conklin that year and I hated the idea of passing on talent for a right tackle. Where has that gotten them exactly? What about the Cowboys? All of those first round pick lineman has resulted in pretty much nothing aside from a mediocre quarterback looking better than he should (and now they are gonna have to pay him). My point is, this guy better be elite. Otherwise you have to look at other positions. Look at all of the first round linemanover the past few years and you will a large number of busts. I know that happens at every position, but when you see the talent that was passed on to draft right tackles and guards, it is astounding. Never pass on talent to plug holes. Even trading down...that's how you become the Browns. This is coming bing from a former linemen and a current high school line coach.

I think this is interesting information but it really is hard to quantify things. When we did this last year everyone went Chris Trappaso and went all in on Mason Rudolph because we had scouts at a bunch of OK state games. And low and behold we have no OK state players.n

I remember being so happy to get Hardy, but it became obvious rather quickly that our seventh rounder Stevie Johnson was the better prospect. It still took him awhile to get a shot. That was a weird draft for recievers. You had Hardy and Sweed, but also Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly. Almost every single mock draft had us taking Kelly or Thomas in the first. So many busts, but then you also had Jordy Nelson, DeSean Jackson, and Pierre Garçon (in the 6th) and Danny Amendola was an UDFA.

If you do a crappy job, you lose your job. He sucked and he lost his job. He deserves the mocking and such. If he didn't want to get mocked, he should have played better. Society has become very apologetic about stuff like this. He sucks so he needs to go bag groceries. You shouldn't feel any worse for him than you do for Gibran Hamdan, or Brian Brohm, or Levi Brown, or whatever other scrub quarterbacks we have seen around here. I'm sure Craig Nall was a nice guy too. But he sucked. No one was crying when he lost his job. The Alex Smith comparison is not a good one. he was the #1 pick in the draft with immense athletic upside. That's why he got a number of extra chances. Peterman was a 5th round pick with little to no athletic upside or talent.