MrEpsYtown

I think Williams is going to struggle with speed, and Dillard is really going to struggle with power rushers. They are flawed prospects and that is why you do not pick them in the top ten. I do like Williams as a guard or center. I do not like Dillard's game at all. Dion Dawkins is a better tackle prospect than either in my opinion. Jonah is somewhere between Andy Levitre and Zach Martin imo

I know we love our Bills, but I can't think of a more boring team for the general public to follow.

Some food for thought: Dillard: 6-5 315 Hand: 10 Arm: 33 4/8 Wingspan: 80 3/8 40: 4.96 Bench: 24 Vert: 29 Broad: 118 3 cone: 7.44 20: 4.4 Williams: 6-4 1/2 302 Hand: 10 1/8 Arms: 33 5/8 Wingspan: 81 6/8 40: 5.10 Bench: 23 Vert: 28 Broad: 100 3 cone: 8.01 20: 4.79 Dawkins: 6-4 315 Hand: 9 7/8 Arms: 35 Wingspan: can't find it 40: 5.11 Bench: 26 Vert: 26 Broad: 106 3 cone: 7.30 20: 4.78 My point? Dillard is somehow some super long prospect with crazy athletic ability. It's simply not true. Both Williams and Dawkins have longer arms and wingspans. Dawkins has great length and while he is a bit shorter, he has a ridiculous 3 cone at 7.30. Please can someone explain to me why Williams is a T rex when Dillard is some super long prospect? I don't get it. Dion Dawkins is longer and more refined than either of these guys. Dillard is very likely Jake Fisher, a finesse tackle who simply is not good enough in the run game to be good in the NFL. I don't care how fast his 40 is. His PFF scores are meaningless in his college offense and I for one will be extremely disappointed if we take him. He is a second round pick. He is my Mason Rudolph pick this year, the prospect I hate, who is not worth a top ten pick who should go later than people expect. I really do hope this is all false, aside from the Oliver connection.

Dillard makes zero sense here. Terrible fit. I like Oliver and I can understand the idea of Williams. Dillard, no.

I know most people don't like it, but Walterfootball just mocked Hockenson to the Bills. In his version, basically Oliver, Gary, Allen, Bosa, Williams, White are all gone along with Murray and Taylor. With Oliver gone with pretty much all of the blue chip defensive prospects, they have us taking Hockenson. I think it is possible if this happens, but you still have Burns, Wilkins, Sweat on the board. If anybody takes a quarterback or moves up for one, we are going to get a pretty good defensive prospect. With Oliver, a lot of people are starting to mock him to Tampa and I think that is kind of a weird fit in the Todd Bowles defense.

The draft needs to get here already.

I don't think he signed the franchise tender, and it is the non exclusive tag, so he is technically still a free agent. So he can still negotiate a new contract with any team while that team and the Seakhawks negotiate compensation.

I don't want to create an argument here, but this is simply not true. Most mock drafts had Shaq in that 5-15 range, which is where people are projecting Jonah right now. From what I remember the Browns were popular mock spot. I think my comparison, or analogy is the right one. I think Williams is few notches below Zach Martin as a guard (who went 15 or 16 iI believe) and I think he is basically Riley Reiff if he plays tackle. I think he can be a very good guard. I think that there may be some potential big time defensive players there at 9 and taking Williams at nine is a reach imo. The talent you are passing on to plug a possible 10 year guard in is just bad drafting. I think he goes in the 15-25 range.

The team who drafts Dillard is going to very much regret it in a couple of years, especially if they take him in the first. Top ten is a massive reach.

Gunner do you think an offensive player like Metcalf or Hockenson creeps up there before 9?

This is revisionist history. Pre draft Shaq Lawson was compared to Tamba Hali and Brian Orakpo, a powerful, dominating edge player.

Here's some info on Dion Dawkins. He started at left tackle for Temple for three years. His true freshmen year he started a couple of game at left and right tackle. His sophomore-senior year he started at left tackle exclusively. At the senior bowl he played really great at both guard spots and and also played really well at left tackle. Pre Draft, people felt he was best at guard. Not sure why though...all his measurables, 3 cone, and super longs arms point to tackle. Anyway, his rookie year, he got thrown into the guard spot for like 6 plays and was good. He played left tackle the rest of the way. In his rookie training camp, he took mostly right tackle reps and did not look great. He took left tackle reps too, and did not look great. The bottom line is that he looked pretty terrible in rookie camp and struggled all around in terms of trying to implement the techniques that Juan Castillo was teaching. It was not until he was thrust into a game at left tackle that he showed what he could do. So he played really well at left tackle his rookie year, good enough for this regime to trade Cordy Glenn. He played really well at guard at the senior bowl, both right and left guard. He also played left tackle there. He looked terrible in training camp his rookie year, wherever he was put. He has played a little bit on the right side. Most of his experience is at left tackle. He might be better at guard than he is a left tackle, but he has not proven that he can't play left tackle. There is more evidence that he can, than there is evidence that he can't. Juan Castillo's techniques forced him to re-learn everything he learned for four years at Temple, so a new line coach likely does a lot for him. His arm length and other measures say he should be a left tackle. (His arms are longer than Williams, Dillard, guys like that ) The idea that he can't play the right side of the line is simply not true He himself is going to say that he wants to be a left tackle. Like I said above, he should not want to move off the $$$$ position and he deserves an opportunity to prove himself before he is moved.

Nobody knows. And people who claim they do are full of it. He has started just 16 NFL games and is 33 years old. He has played both positions and guard. He, Nsekhe, said in an interview somewhere that he prefers to play the left side, which is what every single tackle in the world would say because that is the money position and where the better player plays. If he said he prefers the right side, he sounds like a loser.

I understand this and people have said this about a hundred times on here. Jonah Williams is nowhere near the prospect that Nelson was. Not even close. Ill do an SAT analogy here. Jonah Williams is to Quentin Nelson as Shaq Lawson is to Khalil Mack. That's what we are talking about here. Williams in the top ten is a huge reach. Nelson was a plug and play dominator at the position. Williams has a better chance of being Luke Joeckel than he does of being Nelson.

Really disappointed in his work this past year, and I think he might struggle to make the team this year. But he's gotta know he's fighting for his football life, so he needs to step up or his career is likely over.

I really don't like him at 9, however, if Daboll thinks he is the guy, having coached him and seen him first hand, I can't argue with it. If you take him, I think you make the Zach Martin move and plug him at right guard. He's likely an all pro quickly there. I think Williams is the level of guard prospect, but I just don't like it at 9.

He really doesn't though. He got kicked out of Penn State, has that sexual assault, had a bad combine, and basically had one good year in college. And he's 27 years old now.

A video of Nick Bosa doing lines of coke off some sorority girls ass comes out a few hours before the draft. He drops to nine for us.

My only problem with Wishnowsky is he is already 27 years old. It's not a big deal, but it means something. I actually like Jack Fox a lot. He was really impressive in ten East-West game and he was probably the best player on his team. But you make a good point, with 10 draft picks it would make some sense to draft one this year.

Treadwells problem is that he is really slow. Totally different guys. But Metcalf is risky. He could be Troy Williamson or he could be Megatron lite.

I agree. I think that will be and should be his approach in the top ten. You just have to balance it all together with who you are passing on as well.

Ya Sin is a pretty raw player whose probably more of a man to man guy but his technique is raw. Has a lot of upside though. Murphy is the much more refined player, but a prototype zone corner who can play man. A guy like a Murphy would be perfect for McDermott's or Seattle's system. Think a jacked up version of Taron Johnson. They are pretty much the same size on paper, but Murphy is bigger becuase it's just distributed differently. Both are not particularly fast. Murphy loves to hit and simply makes a ton of plays. He was a big time receiver in high school as well, so he has good ball skills. I really like Murphy if he slips into the 30s for a trade up. Doubt he get some that far. I'm kind of eh on Ya Sin, but both guys can play. I don't know man, you ar replacing one short armed, light in the pants left tackle with another short armed, light in the pants left tackle. But Reiff can certainly benefit from a move inside. Perhaps they would both be fine in the Kubiak finesse zone blocking scheme.

Unless Rodgers treats the rookie like crap.

This is actually hilarious. Good work.