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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-coaches-and-qbs-should-divorce-after-five-years-of-not-winning/ No coach/qb combo in NFL history won their 1st Super Bowl together after year 5 together, is the actual stat. The article is a few years old but the stat still continues till now.

Would think someone who isn’t so fond of her must have leaked it.

I’m beginning to think all of his actions/decisions on and off the field indicates narcissism to me. He feels he knows better than his coaches and teammates. He and only he can possibly make the hero play to win the game. It’s immature, selfish and disrespectful to his teammates and coaches. Grow the Fu*k up!!!

By his 6th year in NFL Brett Favre had won 3 league MVPs and a Super Bowl. Josh has accomplished jack in his career compared to Farve at the same point. He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt, he hasn’t earned it yet.

Actually Josh himself said he doesn’t watch a lot of video in a podcast interview this summer. Not saying it’s a big deal, just it came from him himself.

I live 20 minutes from CU campus and can tell you that without question there is way more buzz for Buffs then Broncos. Buffs are fun, Broncos are not.

FYI: From Warren Sharp newsletter today about the head official for Bills @ Jets Monday: Carl Cheffers a veteran referee who calls a lot of penalties. Cheffers consistently ranks in the top 5 per season for penalties. A Cheffers officiated game will exceed NFL average in penalties more often than not. The takeaway from his long term trends are that when the dust has settled the home team wins well above the NFL average. Cheffers consistently ranks in the top 5 every season for overall penalties Led NFL in 2021 with 14 penalties per game for 124 yds per game Home teams 58-39-1 SU (60%) since 2016 Home teams 48-49-1 ATS since 2016 3rd most offensive holding penalties in 2021 Most unnecessary roughness penalties in 2021 2nd most defensive pass interference penalties in 2021 Led the NFL in calling offensive pass interference in 2021

I download them on Apple Podcasts all the time.

Doesn’t help that all the WNY media just bend the knee to the team. They are either literally employees or so scared of making anyone in the organization even minimally uncomfortable to actually begin to hold anyone even remotely accountable.

I also think some of this is about coaching. Do we believe in Ken Dorsey? Is HC Sean McDermott a better at Head Coach? How will DC Sean McDermott work? Also, what will materially change with team and coaching to stop the now long streak of flaming out in last playoff games? I think many are tired of all the hype and talking about how great they are, and want to actually see them live up to their potential before they crown them again. Like actually prove that you are a Super Bowl caliber team before we crown them all that.

Save about 1 million on cap, so there is that!

https://twitter.com/SneakyJoeSports/status/1696493958581432397?s=20 Thanks. Been trying unsuccessfully to find how to post tweets.

✍️ Noted. 9-8 floor, 11-6 is ceiling. Hope I’m wrong and your 13-4ish prediction is correct.

The schedule is brutal, hardest this version of team has had. The following scenario isn’t unreasonable one. Division Games - Pats, Dolphins, Jets X2. 3-3 is not unreasonable Likely Losses - @ Eagles, @ Chiefs, @ Bengals. 0-3 Tossups - Jags, Cowboys, @ Chargers. 2-1 Should be wins, but never know - @ WTF, Giants, Broncos. 2-1 Easy W - Raiders, Bucs. 2-0 I feel this 9-8 scenario or 10-7 is most likely. Pats winning division, almost no way I see that happening.

Isn’t there different stages/tiers of what is deemed successful for team sports? Bottom Tier = Success is sucking bad enough to be able to draft elite player. Above Bottom Tier = Success maybe getting to .500 Mid Tier = Success is making playoffs Above Mid Tier = Success is winning playoff game or 2 Top Tier = Success is making final 4 or better Elite Tier = Success is winning Championships Think most people on this site feel this team has had a Top or Elite Tier roster. Problem is their performance and results in playoffs when it matters most are not. They have under performed their talent. Doesn’t mean they are sh*t. Doesn’t mean the owners are sh*t. Doesn’t mean they aren’t still fun to watch. It just means at the level they are at and should currently hold themselves to, the past couple of seasons have not been successful.

Because his greater tendencies and instincts will always be to defend and favor his defense. That’s one of the arguments many make to why its so much harder for defensive HC to win the Super Bowl in this offensive/QB era.

Do the opposing teams also not gameplay or is it just the Bills who don’t? I hear this Bills don’t game plan argument like they don’t and the other team does. Its worse that when neither team game plans you get beat down like that. You either are man to man worse or unprofessionally uninterested.

You are correct, fixed. Lol. @Bengals , @ Eagles, @Chiefs I was just pointing out for all the posters here that have said your a moron or a complete idiot for thinking Bills don’t make the playoffs. There are a few not unrealistic ways they could miss without major injuries. I won’t bet on them missing but I think they will end up 10-7 and that might not be good enough in AFC.

The schedule is brutal, hardest this version of team has had. The following scenario isnt a “totally moronic” one. Division Games - Pats, Dolphins, Jets X2. 3-3 is not a crazy time “moronic” thought Likely Losses - @ Eagles, @ Chiefs, @ Bengals. 0-3 Tossups - Jags, Cowboys, @ Chargers. 2-1 Should be wins, but never know - @ WTF, Giants, Broncos. 2-1 Easy W - Raiders, Bucs. 2-0 9-8 in this scenario. I wouldn’t bet this scenario, but one is not a moron if getting to this conclusion and missing playoffs. BTW, give them a win in likely losses, does 10-7 guarantee playoffs this season in the AFC? IDK.

I would take Allen, but while they are different QBs they are really close. I could make lots of good arguments for Burrow being better. I could NOT make any arguments other then he made Super Bowl for Hurts being better then Allen.

More passing attempts, completions, yards, and touchdowns. Fewer interceptions and turnovers. Made a Super Bowl and AFC Championship games in back to back years.

Greater the talent, the greater the tolerance. NFL way.

Sorry left out an important detail for my stats on that specific post, 7th season with his FIRST team, I have mentioned it a couple of times in other posts of mine but left it out with this recent one. My apologies. John Madden was only NFL head coach to make the Super Bowl beyond his 7th year with his 1st team as coach. For Tom Landry, you either use the NFL Championship Game and the years before or you don’t, can’t have it both ways. If you don’t count the NFL Championship game because it was pre Super Bowl the he made Super in year 6, if you do count it then he made it in year 7. All others on your good table made their 1st appearance beyond 7th year with team #2 or more. I have listed in detail all the stats and data for my argument before in detail, some with reference articles. You can look them up on my profile if you want. I don’t need to keep posting them. Sorry for leaving the important detail out of my most recent post. Hope you are well.

I can appreciate you thoughts on this topic, and you not alone in your thinking. Yet, its not just one piece of historical data, it’s a lot of pieces. These pieces aren't just little ones taken out of context and twisted for a narrative. They are simple, large pieces of information many of which have almost 60 years of longevity. No piece of data or statistics is 100% certain of a specific outcome, there is always variables, exceptions and outliers. They are tools that help us make predictions on the probability or likelihood of events happening or not. The many pieces of data, along with the on field results make the probability of SB appearance and victory by McD extremely small. Can he overcome these very small odds, yes. I and many others no longer wish to bet the prime of Josh Allen’s window thinking McD will overcome his shortfalls as a coach and the history that says he is unlikely to get the biggest prize. As I’ve said, I hope he proves me and the data wrong. Thanks you the debate, hope you are well.

For starters the only perspective that matters on this is the Pegulas, and they have clearly made their feelings on this topic clear. They want “sustained success” and as a business family that brings consistent profits. For small market Buffalo this is probably a huge deal for team stability, viability and likely played huge roll in getting the new stadium. You have a fair perspective and one many if not most currently have about McD. I’ve asked before on here if fans would rather have 5 years of playoffs and 1 SB win or 10 straight years of playoffs and no SB win. Sounds like you along with many other great Bills fans would rather have stability and constant long term winning, even if that means no SB win. For me and some other fans it’s really about winning a SB, even if the winning may be on a shorter cycle. For fans like us the pain of 4 straight Super Bowl losses is 1000% worse than the drought. So with our perspective the scrutiny of the GM, Coach and QB will feel more intense and urgent. McD is a very good coach, and is likely and very good man. This is not personal. Nevertheless, I would never bet any sum of money on McD to even make a SB appearance let alone winning one. There is a lot of historical data, performance stats and current trends saying for that to be the case. I and others have posted all this information before, I won’t do it again. Does this mean he can’t? No, of course he certainly can. Yet, he would literally be the 1st or be one of extremely few in NFL history to win a SB based on many of these stats and trends. To answer your question specifically, I wish we had a different coach and I would have likely fired him after 13 seconds. I don’t want to waste Josh Allens prime knowing almost all the data says he won’t be the coach to actually win the Super Bowl with the Bills. But, I acknowledge to my ultimate frustration that what I feels means absolutely nothing. So me and my family will be there every Sunday this fall watching and still hoping that McD proves me and the data wrong. Sorry for long post, wishing you and everyone on the board good health and a great life.