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He missed a game and a half with a concussion last year and hasnt played a full season since his rookie year. Missed an average of 4 games a season over the last three years.

If you honestly think Sammy Freaking Watkins was the catalyst for all this change you're truly the President of the Sammy Watkins Fan Boy Club. Rams points/ game pre Sammy: 14 points/game with Sammy: 29.9 Also: Drafted Cooper Kupp, Signed Robert Woods, and replaced their idiot head coach with a great offensive minded head coach who had a 2nd year quarterback and not a rookie. chiefs points/ game pre Sammy: 25.9 points/ game with Sammy: 36.3 Also: Have an incredibly gifted quarterback who actually throws to his wideouts rather than using tight ends and backs like Alex Smith. They are also throwing the ball more this year with Mahomes. bills points/ game with Sammy in his last year here: 24.9 bills points/ game after Sammy left: 18.9 Also: Watkins played a total of 8 games the year you're trying to make a point about here, 8! Not for nothing they also won two more games without him the following year, and made the playoffs. But lets not "oversimplify" things. I also didnt make it all about touchdowns so give me a break on the Julio Jones stuff. If you want to use Jones, who is on pace for 120 catches and 1866 yards this season, to make your point about Watkins and his maybe 69 catches and 915 yards, be my guest. My point is Sammy Watkins is not elite. He is much closer to players like Randall Cobb or Pierre Garcon than his fan boys want to admit. Fine players, but guys who need to be paid between 9 and 10 million a year, and not the bs 16 million the Chiefs gave Watkins.

Man we spend an awful lot of time on a guy who is once again on pace to have less than a thousand yards in a season. And people still defend the guy like he is an elite talent. Give me a break. Never had more than 65 catches in a season. Never had more than 9 touchdowns in a season. Had one (hardly) 1,000 yard season in five years. Most glaringly he has played one full season in five years. Glad he is gone. Glad we didnt pay the decoy 16 million dollars a year.

Free Agent Signings from the offseason: Vontae Davis- Retired Chris Ivory Rafael Bush Star Lotulelei A.J. McCarron- Traded Trent Murphy Julian Stanford Russell Bodine Marshall Newhouse- Traded Kaelin Clay- Cut Phillip Gaines- Cut Jeremy Kerley- Cut Not a good sign when 50% of your free agent signings have either retired, been cut, or traded.

Seems like the guy has no knees left. He lumbers like a player who cant do it anymore. I dont think he is soft, and I think his effort comes and goes, but mainly I think he is on his last legs and isn't physically able to get open.

Just have to look at the QB situation of the team. I thought Buffalo and Arizona would be vying for the #1 pick. The team I am amazed by is the Raiders. To lose with a decent QB is a special kind of bad.

My guess is 00 because he doesn't exist as a Navy Seal or a football player.

Clown on Rex as much as you want but ever having Tyrod and Incognito was all him. Starting to feel like McDermott got very lucky with Rex and Whaleys roster last year. If Allen continues to be a train wreck next year the Bills will be looking for a new head coach in January 2020. The Pegulas made a giant mistake hiring a coach and letting him hand pick a GM.

So if your theory is true why didnt Belichick win more before Brady? Take three superbowl winning coaches and compare their history prior to having a great quarterback and after Coach Win Pct Pre Great QB Win pct with Great QB Carrol .489 .675 Fox .472 .791 Belichick .427 .678 Did these guys suddenly become football genius, or did they run into some of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game? Quarterbacks can make an average Coach look good, but they can not make complete dolts like Jeff Fischer and Mike McCoy into great coaches. My thinking has been, and will continue to be that coaches (besides the complete idiots) are so similar in the plays they run and the decisions they make, that their existence is negligible when it comes to impact on the overall record of a team. Great quarterbacks have, and will continue to be the great equalizer in football. Its the reason that aside from 1 or 2 anomalies a year, teams like the Patriots, Steelers, and Packers wil l continually make the playoffs year in and year out, despite their coach

He is an above average left tackle who is still incredibly young. He is the least of our worries. Does he whiff sometimes, yes he does. Do most tackles, yes they do.

Predicting Mahomes to be this good this fast was almost impossible. While he threw for a ton of yards in college and completed a high number of passes, neither of those things was unusual for a quarterback from Texas Tech. When it came to intangibles, he wasn't a winner, he didn't start a ton of games, and he tended to throw a lot of interceptions. Additionally, his mechanics looked kind of bad on tape. He stood out because he had a massive arm and was a uniquely gifted athlete. Sound familiar? When compared to Watson, he was nowhere near as special coming out when it came to the intangibles. And when you watched Trubisky, his tape kind of screamed, pro style QB who appeared ready despite a low number of starts. I am going to be honest, I disliked Mahomes about as much as I did Allen. Never saw it coming. Thought for sure Watson would be the best of the three. But I give a ton of respect to Reid. I think he is an amazingly underrated coach. And as for not taking those other great quarterbacks, he already had McNabb who is another underrated NFLer.

Still think it was a great move. Problem here is everyone said they were ready to deal with the ups and downs of drafting a rookie qb, but in the back of their mind expected the rookie to be Tom Brady.

Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Patrick Mahomes. Id even settle for Russ Wilson. Again, coaches are all pretty much the same. If they have a good qb they win. If they don't, they won't

Two things I find amazing: 1. That this guy is starting in another NFL Game 2. That no time in the last three weeks did the Bills sign a quarterback to prepare to start if the 35 year old who hadn't been hit in three years happened to get injured.

Those are all things you need to weigh. If you have the first pick you probably aren't trading down much further than five. So if you trade down to five, still get an elite talent at a position of need and then add a future 1st round pick as well I think you need to consider it. Basically, do you want Nick Bosa or would you rather have both Greedy Williams and N'Keal Harry?

Now this I agree with.

I feel the same way, but when you're drafting top 3 you probably cant take a wideout.

This is one of the players I would hate to see go. Wonder if Rodger Saffold is involved?

Right. Pegula sat down with the players coalition, who anyone with eyes and ears knows uses the media to help their agenda and said: "Hey guys, I totally get what this is all about and support it, but it's costing me money so can we chill? Then he put a 1.1 Billion Dollars in a ditch, poured gasoline on it and lit it on fire all the while doing a jig. Give me a break.

It's always darkest before the dawn my friend. I would argue the loss of both Incognito and Wood have had the most profound impact to the Bills season. However, if you'd like to point to the trade of Watkins, which happened prior to the playoff season they had last year, Cordy Glenn who played in all of 6 of the 17 games in the playoff season they had last year, Preston Brown: a middle of the road linebacker on a defense that was statistically worse than the one we currently have, and Tyrod Freaking Taylor who is sitting on the bench for a team who just fired their head coach, please be my guest. I posted on the Buffalo Bills Message Board three years ago, so what do I know. I watch the games, I know they stink. But, I am also not going to let my emotions get the better of my common sense. They needed to stop being 8-8 every year and grow a pair to do everything they could to find a Franchise Quarterback and not settle for a new incarnation of Kyle Orton every year.. They did that, so I am not going to walk around perpetually upset that a rookie isn't Aaron Rodgers or even worse because the coach claps too much. The bottom line is this. If Allen sucks, Beane and McDermott are gone. If he doesn't they wont be.

So you liked it then?

Let me help: Of course. Why would you think that. I mean we only let a very good marginally talented MLB, who was a liability in coverage, go so thy we could draft his replacement. Traded an very good often late for meetings, and overweight LT, go so that we could move up in the draft and attempt to get a franchise quarterback, because linebackers and left tackles mean relatively nothing if you don’t have one. draft the replacement LB. Traded a wr we should have never drafted that we spent multiple picks on just to acquire more picks so that we could get a QB that’s a rookie who has started five games and not a single person has a real idea of how he will turn out beyond conjuncture. that’s almost the same as the QB they could have had last year and not used any extra picks to acquire. All so we could suffer a bad season and start posting revisionist history about players, including the former quarterback who were also at times insufferable to watch.

All for it. Have loved having him here and the trade to get him is easily one of the best deals the Bills have ever made. But, at this point the writing is on the wall.

At this point take the 4th and the cap savings and lets move on.

Honestly think we will see McCoy sent away. I think they used him enough last night to show he wasnt injured anymore, but then cut his carries back in the second half to save him from injury. Two darkhorse candidates not on the Bills would be Eli Manning to Jacksonville and Leonard Fournette out of Jacksonville.