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7 teams have a white helmet, 3 in the AFCE alone... Would like to see a blue helmet concept... wonder what this would look like with a White charging Buffalo..., white face mask This!

Mentally but eventually I think he gets hurt.

He’s following the steps of Chris Hogan... Hogan played STs. He needs to prove he can play STs and I bet his shot will come on the field. Unless you’re a top 3 WR on this team... you be expected to contribute on ST. I think he may get his shot this year.

Dawkins....Groy....Bodine....VLad....Mills Newhouse/McDermott/Teller/Miller Oline May be pretty Solid. Tons of competition!!!! Practice Squad.... Boettger and deBeer.

Bills lost Sammy Watkins and the deep ball with Tyrod struggled last year. Bills have like 6 WRs who excel at the slot, route running and are like 4.5/4.6 guys... yet everyone thinks The best scheme is for Allen to Air it out, “cause that’s his style”... His style will be to learn the offense and hit the open receiver. Being we have a 6’5” red zone threat and a bunch of slot guys I expect or would assume things will mirror NEs offense. Nobody is answering the question of who our WR is that’s gonna stretch the field.... why do folks still think the offense that’s best for Allen is vertical?

Everybody is saying vertical game.... Where is the WRs that are stretching the defense??? Do we have WRs that can possibly get deep from time to time sure... but who is the burner 9 route only guy? Who is that guy on NE? That’s my point. But but but “Allen has to throw it deep”.... ok to whom?

Nobody is excluding the deep post, 15 yd outs etc.... point is I see a lot more 3-5 yd digs, curls, outs and slants.... 70% of the routes ran in NE offense is taking what the defense gives you. Great route runners are always open at a specific time within a specific route. No doubt they will take their shots deep, roll outs waggle style patterns. But I see a lot of Shotgun, catch set throw 2 second plays in the form of NE style. Based on WR strengths, QB quick release and ability to get the ball in the hands of those WRs quickly.

Just let whoever earns the right to start, earn the right to start. I expect AJ to be tough to beat out. But all things equal.... Start Allen.

Does anyone else feel as if we will be going to a New England style offense that emphasizes route running, quick hitters and getting the ball out quick on timing based routes. It was mentioned Josh Allen has a quick release compared to Tom Brady. It was said even if the accuracy isn’t there, because of the speed of the throw it allows less opportunity for defenders to break on a poorly thrown ball. The Bills have a handful of slot style WRs, a possession WR. Everyone wanted that 4.3 WR yesterday. He never came. How successful was Brandon Cooks for New England? They prefer the Edelman, Amendola, Hogan precise route runners. Bills have a huge Red Zone threat and a possession style WR who can box out defenders and a bunch of precision route runners. Ray Ray and Austin Proehl says it all. Add Zay, Kerley and Streater. Even Reilly is a solid route runner. Call me crazy but I think we are going to see a New England offense that doesn’t look for the big play vs get the ball out quickly with a lot of moving parts.

I hope we get Sameuls. Dude is a football player. Line him up anywhere. Can play RB, motion out for mismatch against LBs, H Back, Wildcat QB....

This isn’t off the official visit list.., its a a compiled list of players the Bills have met with... i.e. Senior Bowl, Combine, Pro day etc

Remaining That visited with Bills Dorance Armstrong Jr., DE/3-4OLB/OLB, Kansas (PRI) Kalen Ballage^, RB, Arizona State (PRO, PRI) Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon (COM) Keion Crossen, CB, Western Carolina (WOR) Luke Falk, QB, Washington State (WOR) Tre Flowers, S, Oklahoma State (EW) David Goldsby, OT, Buffalo (LOC) Kamathi Holsey, WR, Buffalo (WOR) Ryan Izzo, TE, Florida State (COM) Jaryd Jones-Smith, OT, Pittsburgh (COM) Jamarcus King, CB, South Carolina (SR) Avonte Maddox, CB, Pittsburgh (EW) Alex McGough, QB, Florida International (WOR) R.J. McIntosh, DT/3-4DE, Miami (PRI) Ryan Nall, FB, Oregon State (COM) Kendrick Norton, DT/NT, Miami (WOR) Jaylen Samuels, RB, N.C. State (COM) Brandon Silvers, QB, Troy Chad Thomas, DE/3-4OLB, Miami (WOR) Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana (PRI) Corey Thompson, ILB, LSU (PRI) Robert Torgerson, DT, Southern Utah (PRO) Marquez Valdes-Scantling, WR, South Florida (WOR) Mike White, QB, Western Kentucky (COM) Ethan Wolf, TE, Tennessee (EW) Deon Yelder, WR, Western Kentucky (PRO)

DT rotation is nice!!! Kyle, Star, Harrison and Adolphus Lawson, Hughes, Murphy Lorax, Milano, Edmonds 10 solid players right there... who am I missing up front?

Next 3 picks will be OL, WR, CB

I think OT and WR will have some good value at the end of the 3rd.

When Beane said... “we couldn’t find a single person who had anything bad to say about him”... I kind of took that as a comparison. As if they did collect some negative feedback on Rosen.

Vander Esch. He’s 100% a McD type guy. Can play anywhere, side line to side line, can cover

Gotta get the 5th year option on a QB especially if they are expected to sit... if this was was the goal... trade down from 22 to the end of round 1 and grab Rudolph and gain an additional late 2nd and maybe a late 4th. Still get 2 round 1 picks, 3 second round picks, 2 3rd and 2 4th....

They want a QB who played under center.... Rosen and Allen were under center 30%+ of the 2017 season. The rest were under center less than 10%.

QB Rosen QB Allen ILB Vander Esch DT Phillips OLB O’Daniel WR Miller RB Penny OG/C Ragnow WR Chark OT Rankin OLB Nwosu RB Samuels OT Crosby DE Armstrong Jr

PAC 12 all time leading passer no? At Senior bowl it was said he was impressive and probably the best anticipatory passers. Dont think he’s the guy. But he may have a future in the league... you never know.

His potential when healthy is a career 5-7 sacks a season guy.... cause he was a top 20 DE folks want 15+. That will never happen. I too like him, this could be a good year for him. The middle (DTs) will command more attention, especially if we draft solid DT.

When he said “working on his body”... ”265 is the lightest I’ve ever been” Is he implying he’s currently 265 or he lighter than that? (Being lighter than he’s ever been, lighter than 265?) he looked leaner, Ive always thought he was carrying an extra 5-10 lbs more than he should. Roster has him at 267, so he’s 2 lbs lighter? His combine he was 269. At not even 6’3”, he should play at the 255-260 range, and work on speed and agility. He’ll always play the run well.

A Lorax type player... Question is, can he play in space and cover. Cause he’s not a 3 down 4-3 DE.

I think Bills will trade up from 12 and trade up from 22.... i think Vander Esch is in the cross hairs