Shaw66

Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning and Steve Young had okay careers starting with bad teams. Allen's getting a great education playing now. He's already showing he can handle the mental and physical pressure. I'm confident his sacks per game will go down as the season progresses. He'll read the defenses better, and he'll know his receivers better.

I don't think it was balanced at all. I think the story was written based on stats and conventional wisdom. That is, it started for the assumption the Bills are train wreck and went on from there. It recites all the things the Bills have done wrong in handling their QB situation, things that weren't even wrong. Getting rid of Taylor wasn't surprising - getting a decent pick for him was surprising. What it ignores, completely, is how Allen is playing. Who cares if they unloaded McCarron? Who cares if there's a vet in the QB room to mentor him? Who cares if coming out of college the "experts" said he was raw and needed work? How about just watching what he does on the field and making a judgment about whether the guy looks like an NFL QB? The fact is he DOES look like an NFL QB. When the Bills start winning, the writers are going to say that Allen took his lumps and grew up and blah, blah, blah. In fact, he's playing as better than Taylor and Trubisky. He looks as good as Darnold but doesn't have his stats. The press just doesn't want to tell that story.

Well, because Allen can throw the medium deep ball so well, even with mediocre receivers, they should be able to force the defender to back pedal for a step or two. That should give them the opportunity to break off the down field route and get some separation. If the defender continue to play the receivers tight off the line, then the 15 yard in or out routes should create separation. There are very few receivers who get open with one on one moves. Most do it with scheme and sharp cuts, Chris Hogan being a good example. There is no reason Jones can't get open if the Bills have a good scheme and he runs his routes as he should.

That's why I've complained about the pass patterns. Pretty much every team gets guys open on slants and drags, but I didn't see much of that Sunday. Frankly, without McCoy, let Allen throw it 40 times. I think we will like the results.

One of the throws I liked best was deep in the end zone to Holmes. He was in trouble and had to throw it away but was able to make a thrown that gave Holmes a shot at a TD. That was beautiful.

I think your overall assessment is correct ut your bullet points are too tough on him. No qb throws it exactly where it needs to be every time. He was well within adequate on his throws. I think he needed some loft on the deep ball to Clay. I thinks DiMarco fell down because he stopped running and hadn't recover to catch the ball. This was a good outing for Allen. He is going to make m8stakea, but I also think he will be better every week.

You may be right about understanding presnap. That's one of the things rookies don't get. That's why I said last week the Bills would go no hiddle, so Daboll could talk to him presnap and tell him what he is looking at. But he can throw, he can run, he has guts and seems to be learning.

I agree with this. Just about the entire team is a mess, but I think Allen will just keep getting better. I'm watching Trubisky. He has a full season on Allen, and he doesn't have Allen's poise. I don't know if McBeane are the guys to build a winner, but the Bills have their qb.

I all good points, stu. I got no answers.

I'm excited too. And I agree about Daboll. The play calling WAS conservative. And I think the pass patterns are unimaginative. No one seems to get open quickly, and it's those quick passes that makes life easier for the qb.

“Limited Excitement” The Bills stumbled to another loss in the first home game of their 2018 campaign. It wasn’t as ugly as the loss to the Ravens a week ago, but it wasn’t a lot better, either. The game wasn’t as close as the 31-20 score might suggest. It was an odd day at New Era Field, not the usual home opener. The excitement of the draft had ebbed by the start of training camp, and preseason games had left the fans scratching their heads. The blow out loss at Baltimore crushed their spirit. Sunday at New Era, there was very little of the typical opening day excitement. There was hope – there’s always hope – but no excitement. And it was hot, so the fans had wilted before the game began. Still, the fans made noise, in the beginning. The defense responded with a three and out on the Chargers’ opening drive, but after the Bills’ offense went three and out themselves, it began to look like Baltimore all over again. Rivers was All-World, and it looked like the Bills defense was an open book to him. He had no pressure, no trouble finding open receivers, and no trouble hitting them. It wasn’t long before the fans got quiet. It was somber where I sit. For the past six years, I’ve sat behind a family with four tickets. Opening day always was the father and his three fifty-something sons. Dad went to his first Bills game in 1960 and bought these season tickets in 1985. Families like those can be found all over the stadium. Sunday, only one of the sons and his son were there; Dad had died in June, 82 years old and 58 years a Bills fan. It was a sad day in our section, and the Bills did little to change the mood. The Bills woke up a bit in the second quarter, but their general futility and the heat drove many fans out of the stadium at half-time. The Bills actually looked competitive in the third quarter. They had some success on offense and, mercifully, on defense. The score, if not the game, approached respectability, but fans continued to leave. A skeleton crew was left to make noise in the fourth quarter as the Bills mustered a last-ditch effort to get back into the game. The fans wore the usual collection of vintage jerseys – Kelly, Smith, Reed, Fitzpatrick – with several 13s on display to honor Stevie’s return to New Era to wave the flag as the Bills took the field. A few Edmunds 49 jerseys, and more than a few Josh Allen 17s. The rookies didn’t disappoint – they looked like rookies. Allen is, without question, the best QB the Bills have. He showed that. His throws are things of beauty – powerful sometimes, nice touch on swing passes, accurate throws off balance or on the run. The guy is a great, great thrower. Turns out he’s also an excellent runner, and the Bills decided to put the League on notice. The Bills ran the read option several times, and Allen wasn’t afraid to keep it. He’s not going to earn a living toting the pigskin, but he’s going to keep defenses honest. And he can scramble. He can break tackles in the backfield, he can move around. He can stay upright with a tackler on him. And still, Allen plays like a rookie. He holds the ball too long. He seems to lose concentration on some of his passes. He throws an occasional fast ball when a little more air would help. Oddly, I think his two interceptions were positive plays. The first was a remarkable effort on Allen’s part to stay upright, looking downfield with a tackler hanging on him. He waited, waited and finally saw the window he thought he could hit. Turns out he couldn’t, but he’ll learn. Great play. The comparisons to Roethlisberger are easy to see. The second INT happened in that part of the game where the QB needs to take chances to get his team back in it. Allen saw the opportunity and took the chance. He will learn from that throw, too. He needs to take those chances to learn how to execute under game pressure. 18 for 33 and 245 yards with a TD and two okay INTs was a good outing for a rookie’s first start in the NFL. Five sacks is not good. A few sacks weren’t on him, but a couple should have been avoided. One was the corner blitz that he should have seen and didn’t. The offensive line, of course, did Allen few favors. And Daboll’s passing schemes are creating few open targets for Allen. Edmunds continued to mix solid plays with late reads and misreads, getting caught in the wash on some running plays, being left flat-footed on many passing plays. He’s on the field for virtually every play, and he should be learning, play after play. In the meantime, QBs like Rivers will pick on him regularly. Most troubling about the Bills is their general disarray. Marcus Murphy made key mistakes in the punting game, refusing to fair catch one ball, and lining up what looked like 60 yards from the line of scrimmage on another. He ran up 15 yards and still only could short-hop the catch. Critical penalties, again. McDermott taking over defensive play calling. That shouldn’t be necessary; he and Frazier should be on the same page by now. Vontae Davis? His disappearing act begs the question: Do Beane and McDermott actually know what they’re doing? They preach character and they couldn’t figure out Davis had nothing left in the tank? Most courageous play of the game? Taiwan Jones, hands down. His recovery of Murphy’s fumble or muff or whatever that was, and his absolute refusal to go down as he tried to get the ball out of the end zone was awesome. However, maybe I don’t know the rules, and maybe Jones didn’t either, because apparently there was no need to run the ball out, as the officials ruled that the play was a touchback. Runner up? McCoy getting back on the field to see if he could go. Bills desperately need McCoy on the field. The guy is special, and a gamer, and Allen needs the help. If McDermott’s the coach his clippings say he is, this team will continue to improve and begin winning some games. He has the quarterback to do it, but a lot of questions remain. GO BILLS!!! The Rockpile Review is written to share the passion we have for the Buffalo Bills. That passion was born in the Rockpile; its parents were everyday people of western New York who translated their dedication to a full day’s hard work and simple pleasures into love for a pro football team.

I don't remember the game. Bills were on the opponent's 15 or 20, going to the left on TV. Kelly got sacked and didn't get up. I think he might have unconscious for a few seconds. TIimme out and a commercial. Next play Kelly threw a TD pass. Just a ridiculously tough man.

I used to drive College Park to Amherst, and it was more like 6 hours. But that was 40 years ago. I drive 6.5 one way to games. Drive there on Saturday, back after the game. I think i will try Bar Bill tomorrow.

You're driving round trip in one day?

I don't agree but you may be right.

Wheels, this makes no sense. Just because guy cant block doesn't mean he can't line up and learn the play call.

They've practiced doung it all summer. It isn't a big deal.

It's no huddle, not hurry up. You just call the plays at the line I stead of the huddle. The only rushing is that people have to get to the line promptly. They've practiced doung it all summer. It isn't a big deal.

Right. No huddle, not hurry up.

Peterman was not the clear winner. SI says it was close and by August the Bills had decided Allen would be the starter soon. The Bengals game gave them pause, so they went with Peterman. They didn't think Peterman was the savior. They just hoped he could buy them a little time. Turned out he bought them a little less time than they hoped.

Sean McVeigh figured this out with Goff. The radio to the QB cuts off with 15 seconds left on the play clock. So what McVeigh did was get the Rams up to the line of scrimmage with more than 20 seconds on the clock. That does two things First, it cuts of substitutions by the defense. Second, it gives the OC time to look at the basic defensive alignment and tell the qb what to look for, maybe to change the play. It helps a young qb who may not be seeing everything yet. Essentially, it allows a coach on the field. Look for it Sunday.

You'd think so, but that would be ignoring how important character is to McDermott. He's telling ALL of his guys that they have to be 100% into continuous improvement, all day, every day. If he'd kept Dareus, he would have been saying to his team, "well, the rest of you guys have to be 100% into this, but Marcell is so good that he doesn't have to." McDermott can't say that and build the team culture he wants.

Yes, he does LOOK like an OLB/hybrid DE, but he runs like a safety. Or, he looks like a Jimmy Graham-type TE. He's just special physically, and if he learns the game, he will be an All-Pro.

Yes, it's a passing league. Edmunds played every down on Sunday. Why? Because he's more like a big safety than like a Dick Butkus. A three down middle linebacker is a really valuable guy. I wasn't high on his game on Sunday, but you can see why Edmunds can be great. His decision making isn't there yet, but when he makes the right decision in pass coverage, he blankets his receiver. He can run with the running backs, he's as big as Gronk. Edmunds is built to be a middle linebacker in the modern NFL. That's a really valuable guy to have on the field.

I don't know. I don't even know how good the guys are who get drafted in the first round!. And I don't disagree with the notion that they probably should have gone O line instead of Harrison Philips. There was no question the o line would need help when Woods retired. I think what happened is that they were true to their board. I think they had Allen in the top 5, probably the #1 or #2 QB. So they moved up for him. Then, as Beane described it, they saw Edmunds sitting there, and they probably had him in their top 10, so moving up for him made sense. Then they got to the third round, and there was Phillips. I'm guessing they had him as a solid second round guy, and he looked like too much value to pass up. So although they wanted oline, Phillips was the highest value. From today's vantage point, a good guard at that spot would have had more impact on the team in 2018 than Philips. But they preach staying true to the board. I am baffled, however, that they didn't get some journeyman help in free agency. There must have been some guy out there with an attitude, a guy who can hold his ground. Still, I think they can be okay. Get Allen on the field, get him on the move to give him time and let him sling it. Once he starts connecting on passes, the o line play gets easier, both in pass blocking and the run game. I expect the Bills to be a lot better in a month than they were on Sunday. Of course, that's not saying a whole lot, because they couldn't have been much worse.