Matt_In_NH

To continue that analogy. At end of the road you will have to even up meaning at some point you will have to pull over and wait for the time to elapse to get to the finish line if you ever want to get back to even. If you are going 6000 miles and the speed limit is 60MPH it will take you 100 hours. So you can go 120 for the fist 50’hours but then you have to wait. I this analogy time is total cap over years and it assumes there is an end to it where everyone has to be even.

So you think it was stupid for the Bills to pick up the 5th year on Josh correct? Just want to understand your position clearly. That was stupid correct? I do get you give the player leverage by picking up the option but for the right player it can absolutely make sense but you also pick up some leverage. The players hate it which is probably means it's good for the teams. I will also just point out that with Edmunds it is simply your opinion he was not worth the $12M, one year later he got $18M and he did not change in any significant way. It is also just your opinion he outperformed the $12M so much in year 5 that his market was now 35% higher. I agree his 5th year was his best year but he did not blow years 1-4 out of the water so much that he went from 35% below a $12M AAV to 35% above that. The Bills probably tried extending him and could not agree on the price so they lived with the 5th year option, it was not some terrible value. See Knox and Miller if you want to see bad values. Edmunds has always been a polarizing player for Bills fans and has never had as many impact plays as people expect of him, not in years1-4, 5 or last year with Chicago.

7.4M over seven years, I bet most would consider themselves successful if they made that.

It does not work that way

you trade contracts............

It is so interesting how guys get played up when they switch teams. This guy is not good in the pass game.

Its a done deal, the Bills want him and guaranteed no one else will draft him first.

Yeah, not saying the signing is bad it is just clear people are undervaluing Davis at the same time overvaluing Samuel. I do like the potential play making ability of this guy though, optimistic but I am not expecting out of this world production. People act like Josh Allen throwing the ball means his numbers will jump significantly, that could happen but at the same time that did not work for Shefield or Harty. Their numbers went in the crapper with Allen.

He has not signed yet and you just jinxed it.

Is he? The money does not say so. In 7 years he has 22 TD's. Davis has 27 in 4 years and has been a great playoff performer. Does this guy block? He just seems different to me, not a huge upgrade. Davis dropped the ball more than we like, sure but are you telling me this guy has no warts?

Safe to say he is not as good as many here thought.

We dont need the guy who killed RFK anyway.

This guy has some nice quotes “I don't like soft people. I don't even like people who eat with utensils. Eat with your hands, that's what they're there for." - Mack Hollins “If you can’t eat it with your hands, you shouldn’t be eating it.” When a reporter inquired about soup, he said, “Shouldn’t be eating soup. You’ve never seen a lion eat soup. You’ve never seen a gorilla eat soup. You’ve never seen anything savage eat soup.” “I hate cats. Cats will steal your soul. Never trust a cat. The small ones? No. Never look them in the eye.” Big cats, like lions, he likes. Hollins said his father owned a lion when he was growing up in Ohio. “It wasn’t one of those TLC hang-in-the-house lions. It was in a big cage. Killed a deer and ate it.” “If I cut the roots out of a tree, it wouldn’t make very much sense. If this is how I feel the ground, this is how I connect to everything around me, why would I cover it?” he asked, moving his feet back and forth. “Nobody is wearing mittens here, but everyone has shoes on. Feet and hands are the exact same when you’re a baby and then all of a sudden they put shoes on, and they stop feeling (the ground).”

I guess it’s settled.

It will involve next years one..........plus some other big capital

Wow not getting a tender as an RFA says something, no?

Nice deal for Dane!

The bolded is a weird position to take, would you also never franchise tag a guy, even a Josh Allen, ever? Like never ever? Signing the 5th year option for Edmunds worked out cause it was not that much, it also worked out with Oliver IMO. But I do understand your argument about leverage...especially in this case where it is a highly paid position like DE.

Not the droid we are looking for

I would sign up for that but it will probably be higher AAV, what would guaranteed be, like $50M? The 5th year gives him $19M guaranteed alone.

Any details on the contract?

The Bills have til May 8 to assign the 5th year option which will be for 2025 at about $19.076M. The number is big for a DE so giving him the option means you have to give him that for 2025 or you need to extend him sooner. Any chance Beane is trying to do this now where his value is maybe less than it can be after this year? It would provide a more cost controlled/known cost moving forward. https://billswire.usatoday.com/lists/cost-buffalo-bills-fifth-year-option-greg-rousseau-nfl/

These guys think he is super physical...never really saw him as that so much, not that he was not physical just more an all around good safety. https://finheaven.com/threads/poyer-to-miami.382940/

Yeah that truly sucked

His wife made hiim