Rochesterfan

No they won’t- it is pretty simple. Teams would rather force the Bills to play a long drive and run the ball and see if we would stick with the run. It is the dumbest of arguments because the only way a RB changes the defense is to make them the focal point and that is taking the ball away from our best player. That was the same argument KC made and no one cared about the RB - it just doesn’t matter. Points come from passing.

This post is all sorts of wrong. They already picked up Edmunds 5th year option last year. He is playing on that now!!! So basically your entire first paragraph is wrong. If it is telling that they haven’t picked up his option, but they have picked it up - does that make it equally telling they like him? What pray tell does it tell us now that you have learned the option was exercised - just like Oliver’s. The 2nd paragraph also holds little water as the Bills FO have moved on from various draft picks as needed if they are not up to speed - the problem is they have drafted very well (best in the league by several metrics) and therefore have not had to move on from many picks.

That is not going to cut it no matter what they have going on. 800,000 on NBC on a Sunday afternoon by week 2. They are dead in the water. The drop was worse than AAFL and XFL both and about what they saw in week 4+5. It is going to be hard pressed to support the number of players needed and the games are not very good.

Ahhh - the old it is not me that is the problem - must be everyone else that is the issue - line of reasoning. I come in - don’t do any of things I should - like search - and whamo everyone else on the board is an issue. Then I will throw shade and tell people to ignore me. Instead of that - fix the issue - delete the duplicate - read through one of the threads presented to you and add your thoughts - plus you get the added benefit of already seeing what people think. Or add the thoughts on to any of the other threads about who the Bills should draft and ask the questions. There are many solutions over ignoring a poster, but when people do dumb things - they get dumb responses.

I am not sure about this. The next stadium being looked at in Tennessee is a Dome in nice weather. The Washington team is hoping for a domed stadium like SoFi or Dallas. I think more and more are looking at domes - especially larger areas as they are looking at multifunctional purposes.

The real question though is if we had drafted Humphrey and he sat on our bench as a back-up center behind Morse the entire season and played less than a handful of snaps - How would you feel about the choice? He went to KC and was able to play right away - the interesting part to me was how much praise was heaped on him and his fellow rookie linemen, but teams were getting pressure on Mahomes all season. They switched to a shorter passing game to attack underneath and even in the playoffs - the Bills pressured Mahomes and forced him out of the pocket - they just couldn’t get the sack - he escaped and ran for big plays. I think that entire line was overhyped big time because of the QB and coach. You can never assume the success one player has or does not have would follow if he was on a different team and situation. I think this board would be complaining about the lack of production if Humphrey had been the pick.

Why would they fear him? Most teams would prefer we run as they fear Josh Allen. If he becomes top 5 in the league - he is basically matching what Singletary does. Overall our rushing is hurt because he will not average what Josh gets and those are the carries Hall would get. The only way it changes how defenses approach us is if we take a significant number of plays out of Josh’s hands and become a more run focused team. Otherwise Hall is just CEH in KC - no one cares if he runs the ball - you stayed deep because Hill and Kelce are what will beat you.

Only if you like just 1 player and even then the philosophy above is wrong. No team should be that tied to a player that they pick him at 25 out of fear he would not be available at 57. That is how you get huge reaches. QB is the only spot you might use that philosophy- never for a RB. The Bills should have a nice group of players to pick from at 25. Beane has spoken about the draft and having a limited number of first round grades. They have also stated that based upon positional value - the RB would have to be elite to allow them to match the value of more important positions. Therefore - the questions are does Beane consider Hall to be Elite enough to by-pass other positions he values much more highly. Next question is who has dropped and is there any of their 1st round talent left. Third - in picking at 25 - if all first round talent is gone - who is left in the group and are they premier positions. Beane will have to figure that on Thursday night. Based upon how he has treated the RB position since arriving - I would expect the Bills will come to the conclusion that a 3-5th round pick at RB will give nearly the same output on the limited touches as Hall.

Because the cost of a player at that point for RB is too high and you waste the 5th year option that is a huge plus of the 1st round. It is why Beane has repeatedly talked about positional value - Beane came out and said RB is not a position they would pick in the first round if they have someone with a first round grade. If they do not have a first round grade - the RB must be elite compared be compared positions that are graded higher in value. RB as a position has very little value because RBs make little difference to teams. Since the Bills only have about 16 1st round players - If one of them is there - that is your pick. If they are all gone - the Bills will then have to decide Hall versus positions of value. Since the Bills were willing to sign McKissic as a low end FA - I can not imagine they value RB very high. I still expect and would prefer several of the other RBs later and get actual talent in the first.

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I find this to be hugely interesting because I can easily see the Saints, the Steelers, and the Lions - all looking at QBs - with the Lions at the very least - using pick 32 to get that 5th year option on Willis. Especially because I think he will need time to grow and that team has a huge talent gap. I still think by the end of the night there will be a minimum of 2 and maybe 3 QBs going. I am just not sure they go early enough to push talent down to Buffalo.

I think it is unlikely, but I could see the general idea behind it. The problem I have is if you are trading Poyer and Edmunds and getting back Bradberry - you now have you DB - so you are picking LB or Safety at 7 and that seems like a high pick for those positions. I could see it for Hamilton more than a Off Ball LB, but it would fill needs and adjust holes. I think the Giants want a first next year to go after QB - so there maybe some additional draft pick or player changes to help get the Giants a 1st next year that fills additional needs - maybe they use Toney as a 2nd player. That fills CB and WR - opens Safety and LB. Use the 1st on safety and a 2nd or 3rd on LB - I don’t hate the idea - I just think in the win model of this year - I am hard pressed to see them losing that much leadership from the defense.

My guess is you are going to be disappointed. The Bills staff brings rookies along very slowly - with only 2 starting as rookies (White and Edmunds) full time in game 1 and the rest working their way into the lineup throughout the year. Anyone they draft at 25 is most likely riding the bench as a back-up to start the season - the Bills are not drafting for needs currently - the draft is about upcoming needs. The only position as a rookie that might start is CB, but even then it will just be fill in work as the DB’s get healthy. Every other position - including RB - most likely starts as a back-up and has to earn reps. A rookie RB that struggles blocking will not be playing a bunch of snaps early in the season. At pick 25 - in a draft with 15-18 1st round level players (and several of those at DE/EDGE) - there are almost no impact players that can “move the needle” on this Bill’s roster.

So what are facts and what are rumors that the GMs have heard. If as according to Walter (which I think is just about the least reputable site imaginable) the Private Detectives looking into the background of this player for the GMs has uncovered at least 3 cases of potential domestic violence and presented that to the GMs - that would make that a fact in their eye - not a rumor. That would definitely lead to increased questions and scrutiny over other actions. If on the other hand - it is just additional Walter BS and it was not data provided to GMs by background detectives - then it is 100% rumor and should have little impact. The issue is we the general public do not have all of the facts and the rumors that the GMs have to sort through. It can be especially difficult at larger colleges and universities that do “internal review” of suspected cases by campus police and withhold information from real police and the public - especially as related to sexual assault or DV on campus. I don’t know what the truth is, but even rumors of multiple DV could cause some teams to question where to place him on the board - just as song and TV show lyrics on Twitter could cause exams to question a player like Josh Allen.

Ooh some real excitement - push back football for a baseball game - that should drive viewership.

Ike will be interesting - even Buffalo Rumblings expect him to start on PUP - unlike what they said about Tre’. We will see - His last injury took him just about a year to get back when he tore the Achilles last time. We will see how quickly he returns, but even when he got back the first time - it took a long time to regain his strength and ability to plant and set himself. He might be back, but I would expect they are going to let him wait as there is no need to rush a back-up OL back, but Tre’ is a starting CB and if he feels ready - they will get him action as soon as he is cleared. I don’t expect him to participate much in anything like TC, but I would not be surprised if by week 2 he is getting some snaps. I am not ready anything - I am going off from what people that talk to the team on a regular basis are saying about the timeline. Either way we will find out later on, but since they have some of the best injury management people in the NFL - I will let them figure out when he is ready.

Actually Sal has said it on more than one occasion and when he had Parrino or Jon Scott on the other day - they said the same thing. They both said everything they have heard was he was ahead of schedule and they were hoping to find out more with him at OTAs, but the Bills did not make him available so far. Players come back all the time now and are playing by 6 to 9 months. The timeline projected was the one Sal talked about as unlike normal people - Tre has access to 0 stress workout like underwater treadmills where they can regain strength without putting weight on the knee. They begin working out now much sooner than they could do in the past. They also have increased access to flexibility experts to ensure they have flexibility to regain motion as they are in constant physical therapy. More and more players are coming back like Amari Rodgers at 6-8 months after surgery. As long as they are well managed. We will see where it ends up, but unless he has a set back the guys covering the team seem to think he would not hit the IR and would be able to do limited snaps early in the season. Did you read the Buffalo Rumblings article - they put him as back at the end of the Pre-season. Not starting practice, but that would be his optimal return date.

I think Hill is definitely someone they are looking at and could be an excellent 1st round pick. He has the ability to play boundary CB as needed to start the year, he can play safety, he can play slot, and most importantly - He has speed to burn with Under 4.4 40 and Elite level speed and agility grades. I think he fits this team like a glove for what they need and want.

You mean his QB in Tampa Bay - Good old Brady himself - the master of the TE? I think the difference is Brady uses Gronk to the detriment of others - hopefully he can be healthy and play well here.

Ike is coming off an Achilles tear. He is the one guy that I am sure will not be available to start the season. The expectations with Ike is week 10 or so before he is ready - Achilles tears are brutal. Tre’ - the talk and expectations are he is ahead of schedule and may be ready to start the year or at most misses a game or 2. The Bills based upon normal injury management will most likely limit Tre’ some especially in training camp, but ACL tears are injuries NFL/College players get over and return to normal. Now onto the OP - Based upon this coaching staff and how they use rookies - there is not one position that a drafted player is going to be a difference maker to start the season. Going back to the beginning of McD time as coach - 2 draft picks (Edmunds and White) have started as rookies. Josh, Oliver, Rousseau, keep going 2nd, 3rd, 4th round picks etc - they all have been worked in slowly. Josh was earlier than planned with the failure at QB, but the plan was 2-3 weeks on the bench and work his way in. I don’t care what position they draft, but there is almost no chance they have an opportunity to be a regular starter. If it is CB - they might get some snaps to start, but my guess is Tre’ and Dane are 1-2 for a big part of the early season. A WR will see some snaps, but really as a fill in to help during some 4 wide and maybe as a returner. OL would be great for depth, but I think they have their planned starting 5. Same with DL and LB and TE. Even RB - You know especially early that Singletary is getting a bunch of the snaps. They just are not going to trust the rookie to do everything until he has proven it - especially blocking. So how much impact can he bring giving the team 5 carries and a couple of catches a game. Therefore, my guess is that the Bills are going to look at BPA - just as they have the last few years. They have limited numbers of guys with first round grades and based on the interviews none are RB. So I would think that they would draft whatever player had a first round grade and they would start with CB and WR as looks. If all of the first round talent is gone based upon the interview - I would assume they may look to trade back or they will follow their board and if there is a running back with superior athletic talent that trumps positional value - they might go there, but it is a very limited if. I am not not sure they believe either of these RBs exceed value by so much that they can trump the lack of importance of the position. We will see, but if people are expecting a rookie - even a first round rookie to have a huge impact - I don’t think you have been paying attention to the team. There is probably 1 position that impact might occur - DB other than that - there is a tiny chance of impact.

I agree, but his action, speed, and ability fit exactly what Shanahan loves to do. The Packers did something similar out of a similar coaching tree with Ty Montgomery and basically turned a former WR into a RB. It has potentially cost Ty significantly more money being a team player and getting 3 million dollar contracts. Samuel does not seem to want to risk that. If SF could replace his usage - it would be fine, but you know when things bog down - you migrate back to what works.

And he is telling teams that like it or not - if you do not treat him as a WR only - He will not signing long term with you because someone will use him as a WR only. I think he purposely put the statement out that it isn’t the contract - it is the usage. Therefore a team like the Jets with former SF coaches may want him, but he is letting teams know - I am not going to do that. It is a bad look, but it is his option and I think the point he was making was trying to warn certain other teams away.

Yes, but his workload increased late in the year and he was getting routinely nicked up during that time. Plus many times QBs are getting some extra protection versus he was pounding the ball right out of the backfield. Looking long term for his career - he wants to nip this now and I think he is pretty sure Shanahan’s offense will migrate back to that as needed. It is about money and his long term ability to earn WR money.

Yes, but most colleges are known for underplaying any kind of violence and sexual abuse for their college players. Somehow these things get pushed under the rug and the “University” investigates and finds nothing and then turns it over to police preventing actual findings. We will see how serious it is by how much he drops and if he is truly off some teams boards. Right now is smoke bomb season and everything must be taken with a grain of salt or maybe a few pounds.

Let’s make Buffalo the 3rd game every year. Need an AFC team.