Rochesterfan

Got some in the right order - how could I have left off the Punt God for the last spot. 😂

Pretty sure it had to do with the terrible QB class, the availability of multiple prove QBs - Mayfield and Garoppolo, and the recent movement of veteran QBs. Teams were already looking to acquire capital for next year to move up and get QBs.

Also still have Quentin Morris - nice receiving TE.

Oh I don’t discount that you can find talent at most positions - especially now with a 7 round draft - there are Hundreds of guys that used to be drafted, but aren’t now. The trick is you can field a competitive team of UDFAs over 5 years to compete, but that requires finding 30-40 players out of 2000 UDFA. So a little over 1% become good enough to field a competitive team. Across the league there are very good players from the UDFA ranks and I love the exercise - it just needs to be remembered that the actual % of impact players (even starter level) is tiny. Sorry - do not mean to sound like I am crapping on the exercise because I like the thought - it just drives me crazy when people go insane over missing out on signing a guy that isn’t making any roster, but is a camp body only.

I could see him getting outside depth work this year along with maybe some sweep action and kick/punt work. Then as contracts are up getting more work inside/Slot down the road.

Although very true - UDFAs also make up a huge number of roster players. Most teams sign between 10-15 UDFA a year - so there are between 300-400 UDFAs every year - compared to 32-50 in each round. There are some excellent UDFAs that have made it through, but % wise it is minuscule and has minor impact on teams each year. Important- especially for training camp bodies - but very minor. They do become underdog stories that we love though.

Except he will be QB#4 behind Keenum and Barkley - and Barkley may be PS bound. They also drafted 2 LBs and at TE they still have their UDFA from last year - so they have 4 - with a young guy already. They will pick up a few cut guys also before TC.

Yeah, but not the high end guys you want. That is why - even without the space - Beane wanted the extra picks.

It will be interesting. Beane told Sal last year with the roster so complete - the Bills will struggle to get even average UDFAs to sign. Hence the need to pick up extra draft picks to fill the roster. My guess is 6-8 UDFAs with maybe an OL, TE, and WR. It will be limited I would guess.

I’m not he was the 4-5 best punter in this draft. Pick him up 6th or later

I am not really heartbroken over much. I have done my fair share of mock drafts and simulations and reviewed available tape, but what I lack is the most important piece - the interviews. How do these guys process tape, How do they learn, How do they get along with staff and teammates, and most importantly- what are the teams plans and how do we want to move forward? For example - I thought Parham would be a potential pick, but his RAS score is average and is mostly boosted size - some of his movement scores to show pulling and space blocking was terrible. He had Elite level explosion. To me that fits more with a box in-line guard and not the current plan. I feel the same way about some of the WRs/TE and how are we going to attack defenses with our new OC. I would of liked a player like Ruckert the TE from OSU, but with Knox, Howard, and Sweeney already on the team and Morris who is athletic as a UDFA - I am not sure what they are really looking to do with the group. It seems to me they are looking for more athletic TEs to attack seams and Ruckert is more all around. I just think some people get so caught up with names and rankings by these draft sites that we forget that they are trying to rank comparing everyone and NFL scouts don’t do that. A player like Skyy Moore at under 5-10 and fast, but not blazing speed might not fit with the Bills vision the same way it fits with how KC wants to attack the field and people think we should of drafted him and I am not sure he was even in the conversation for where we were picking as a player we want.

Are you taking him from another roster? - he was already picked.

Interesting - I will wait to see the plan, but I wonder if this signals further change in the defensive plans. We drafted a press man corner with speed. Do we start to transition to a 4-3-4, but with 1 deep safety, 2 CBs that can play man/Zone, and Taron as a slot coverage. We then have Milano and Bernard on the outside with speed and tackling to attack the edges of the offense and Edmunds patrolling middle. Gives you coverage with DBs and Johnson - deep safety protection - and more size and speed at the LB position versus a 2nd safety. Plus we struggled when Milano was injured - now you have that back-up also. I get the WTF idea, but It seemed like before the White injury last year - they were adjusting the defense to be more aggressive. I think with the speed and the lack of arm strength at QB in the division - maybe it gives a couple of guys that can help take away the quick routes better.

Maybe, but Sal said during his discussion with Beane last year that the Bills traded back to get extra picks because with a stocked roster - it is hard to get UDFAs. I would expect a trade up, but keeping most of the picks - we need so many players for camp.

He has the exact same speed as Dalvin. They pt their 40s side by side and it was identical. I think Dalvin has shown himself to be more than fast enough.

Stop spoiling picks JC

It was good work when you did it and nice work by ESPN to copy you. It goes to show they continue to hit picks and even when they let guys go - those players contribute elsewhere. Even a “miss” like Zay Jones that everyone gripes about has gotten not only a second, but a third nice contract.

Yep - and Edmunds with 2 pro bowls, Oliver, White with Probowls, Milano, Dawkins, Knox, Singletary, Davis, Brown, Johnson, Rousseau, Basham, Bass, Boettger, Brown, Dodson, Epenesa, Hamlin, Hodgins, Jackson, etc - all playing and giving minutes. They are not all home runs, but they hit on more players and develop more players than other teams. The make-up may not be what everyone hopes for, but year after year they hammer out multiple picks that make the team and stay and then those that go on still have success. Teller, Zay Jones, Phillips, etc - get moved and then signed by other teams. They are not perfect, but they find people at every level.

This is sarcasm right because if not it is ignorant. ESPN just went through the last 10 years of drafting and lookin at career versus expected for each draft pick. Guess who is number 1 by a long ways over the last 5 years - since MCD took over. The Bills have been by far the best drafting team and it isn’t even close. They have infused more talent and got more production out of their picks than any other team. But by all means maybe you are right and the analytical data, the experts, the drafts gurus, and the majority of other are missing something that you somehow see. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

This is a repeat of the 1st round pick lunacy. They are not wasting additional draft capital to draft a RB. If he falls to 57 maybe he is the pick - if not - he will be playing for a different team. It is about positional value and draft value - he just lands in the wrong places.

It did not sound like Vrabel was happy about the trade. I am not sure this is on him. AJ Brown made it sound like he didn’t want to go - would of settled for around 22 million in Tennessee. It seems like a cluster that was because Tennessee did not want to exceed 20 million for a WR.

Yeah - I mean it is not like the Bills were just ranked the best drafting team over the last 5 years by ESPN using career over expected. I mean Beane must be barely serviceable.

I did not hear the 21 part - I heard they did not have 25, but I have not heard a firm number. I would agree I don’t think Walker or Pickett had 1sts. I am not sure that 15, 16, 17, or 18 all had first round grades either. I think maybe 1 of the guards and 1 of the WRs might - not sure that all 4 did. The talk was 16-20 first round grades for most “experts” and those varied a bit based upon needs/desires.

We hit 100 - now the Bills need to draft a CB in round 1 pr the agreement. Good job - Brandon Beane.

You mean the Taiwan Jones/ Danny Woodhead group?