Rochesterfan

Darnold played well in game one after a pick six on his first throw, but has not looked great in weeks 2 or 3. I think McCown would give them a better chance to win, but Darnold needs the snaps to grow. Allen looked shaky in Baltimore and the first half against LA, but he showed steady improvement in the second half and against Minn. Needs to keep getting better. Mayfield played 2.5 quarters and looked excellent against a Jet team that was prepared for TT. I did not see much adjust from NY and Mayfield picked them apart with throws to spots TT can not (will not) usually throw to. I look forward to seeing him against teams that game plan for him. Rosen played about 4 minutes and I was very unimpressed. He threw a pick and a pick six that a penalty wiped out. It was a no win situation, but he looked no better than Bradford and I thought many of his passes lacked some zip to get where they needed to go. I agree 83 was a good class, but it is way to early for comparisons at this point. Heck Kelly was not even in the NFL because of the USFL - so very hard to judge.

I think they will all get some playing time - especially trying to get some added CBs on the field. I prefer Lewis on the outside with Johnson and Gaines inside.

Didn’t Brad Smith return kicks for us playing as our slash/back-up QB. Same role as this guy. Exactly just last year.

Just like the fumble when JA clearly was shuttling the ball to the WR on a shuttle pass. Replay does very little and I doubt either the Tre White or the Matthews call gets overturned. They are staying with the call call on the field as much as possible. The would use the excuse their helmets hit - therefore confirmed. Matthews did land on the QB - Confirmed. Even if the calls are wrong. Yet overall league viewership numbers are up - may kill long term, but right now the league has more viewers than ever and QBs are healthy.

Nope - I want nothing to do with Kap at all- even if you could get him on a cheap one year deal. He offers nothing of substance at the QB position and becomes more of a weekly distraction every time he speaks. Let him ride off and be gone - the league does not miss his play.

Not something I want to see. Bradford is not good and very expensive. Rather see a cheap deal for Moore than see them waste a pick and money on Bradford. Huge No Thanks!!

I think I have seen this thread before maybe early this week and last week and in the preseason and maybe before training camp - etc.

What I will say - he is not flashy, but he does his job. Currently even getting blown out in 2 games where we expect the opponent to run a lot - we are 5th in allowing rush yards at 80 a game - much better than last year. Plus it appears a few times he pushed the middle of the pocket back - allowing the DEs to get sacks and pressure.

I would rather they flag that than the refs decide sometimes it is ok and others it is not. Ideally they would throw the rule out, but if not make it so it is as black and white as possible.

At least Houston and Arizona have very young QBs to develop. Oakland with Gruden and Carr are just a tire fire ? at this point. I hope Oakland loses every game this year - can’t stand Gruden as a coach.

I do not disagree that Riveron needs to go, but to blame this on him is just wrong in my opinion. The competition committee created an ambiguous rule using the words “unnecessary” in the rule. What is unnecessary? I would rather see the NFL call it every time someone lands on a QB with his full weight rather than a referee try to determine if it was unnecessary or not. To me each week - Matthews has purposely went right through midsection of the QB - driving him backwards and landing directly on top of the QB. The only one I question is week 2 he had his hands out and did not land with his full weight. I see other guys come up the middle and hit the QB, but slide to one side or the other to not fully land on the QB. I agree the intent is to stop a hit like Barr on Rodgers, but trying to write a rule to stop one type of play is going to impact others as we have seen with the catch rule. The catch rule worked for years until slow motion replay showed there were flaws. Then they tried to write the rules to eliminate the one offs and it impacted plays that were not intended in the original purpose. This was not a Riveron issue either - he just handled it poorly when it came time to explain the situation. The issues were there before Riveron and will be there long after he is gone. Football is a massively complex and fast game meaning there are just a lot of things that occur right on the edge in gray areas and fans get mad about these plays. The NFL responds by trying to “fix” the problem with a rule, but the consequences are on unintended plays that cause additional frustration. No matter what people are upset and in the internet world - small groups have loud voices leading to overreacting to correct non-issues.

I hope they adjust and it causes them to back off to protect against his arm and we can get the running game really going. The last 2 years with TT and Peterman we could not get the D to back off by completing passes and it clogged up the running lanes. Yesterday - they got the Vikings D to back off into 2 deep safeties giving more running lanes for Ivory. That is a tough team to run on and the adjustments to JA’s arm started to allow better run fits and that will hopefully continue.

Should be, but get a 260 lb Linebacker chasing you and sometimes you find and extra gear.

I disagree - the Refs messed up, but the play works and you have to shovel it to make it a pass and that is what makes it safe. The timing must be perfect to get the full effect and that means just barely touching it and tossing it forward to the speeding receiver. More practice will make it work and look better. If the call was missed how is it a turn over waiting to happen? The point of the catch and flip forward is to make it a pass so that it is not a turnover waiting to happen. A handoff to the sprinting WR could be a fumble, but the shuttle pass protects the team. The point is to avoid the handoff because a guy running full sprint trying to take a handoff is very easy to bounce of and that is a fumble. The small flip forward makes it a pass and protects you from exactly what we saw in the game - the Refs just blew the call. Give them some more time and we will see how it looks, but I love the idea.

My Oakland pick is still alive

NFL tweeted out that Josh Allen is making his Arizona Debut. Wow our QB is so good he hopped on a plane to help Arizona out - they preferred him to Rosen all along - LOL.

I totally agree he dropped a beautiful pass, but he also finds a way to get open. Needs to work on catching with those hands.

I can’t believe Taiwan Jones is playing with the stitches and the bruising. Good Lord keep his hat on today.

If they had started Baker they would be 3-0 and not needed the kicker.

It is not useless though because it can roll over to next year. They may not use it, but any money they get back adds to next years money to sign players.

This is so easy - yes it was a fumble - ball came out before the elbow hit out of bounds. The WR then landed out of bound (elbow) while still touching the ball - therefore it is a dead ball out of bounds. The Bills have seen this exact thing at least 3 times in the last 2 years - where a guy fumbles on the sideline and either lands out of bounds and touches the ball - ala LA this weekend or the Dolphins last year OR the Bills trying to recover end up touching the ball out of bounds ala last week in Baltimore.

That was the correct call as explained by the former referee- it was a muffed punt - he never had possession and therefore did not establish control outside of the goal line. The first control was in the end zone and therefore touchback was the correct call. Every close play outside of the muffed punt went to LA. The first fumble should have been Buffalo ball and that would have had the potential to change the game. The punt where the ball was touched by LA on the goal line should have been a touchback- JA then throws an Int because he is backed up in the end zone. A correct call there could have also changed things as that lead to LA’s last points. In the end the Refs did not cost the Bills the game - they did not help them either - it was just another fast moving game with a lot of very close plays that for the most part the Refs get right in live action - which amazes me over and over.

And called them San Diego at least 5 or 6 times - they are definitely a low end crew that barely knew the players on either team.

Trolling bait - what a hot take - LOL. Yeah the silent protest of fractured ribs that McCoy will try to play with - no respect for the coach. Kyle out their on his knee playing his heart out for the team and coach, but yeah they have no respect. Players trying to make a play even when the helmet comes off - no respect for the coach or team at all Let’s take it further - I guess based on your “Logic” - Carson Wentz is silently protesting in Philadelphia. Greg Zuerlein is protesting the coach in LA - I mean he pulled himself out of the game right after the opening kickoff. He didn’t even have the respect for the coach to try and gut it out like Shady - they must really hate McVay. The list could go on and on, but it doesn’t matter as you have a horrible hot take you want to troll with - so have fun.

Agreed - it was obvious he was struggling even in the preseason and I am sure both he and the coaching staff were trying to decide how much is him coming back from injury - which takes time - and him losing the desire to play. Having a year off and rehabbing sometimes saps the desire as you enjoy the time away and the mental relief and it is hard to build that desire back up. I do not think the retirement was a huge surprise as even some guys on the board thought (stated they had heard) rumblings that he was talking about this as early as before game 1 - which was why he sat game 1, but doing it at halftime was a kick in the groin. I do understand that he had come to the conclusion that it was time and at that point it is best to just get out. Especially if you are more concerned about injury and therefore you are not giving it your all. What we do not know is what was said to who about this internally because the Bills seemed to adjust to not having him right from the start of the second half. The move to me is not a killer as he was not what he once was, but the optics seem bad.