Rochesterfan

Yeah 90’s Zubaz on his Proline Card. Loved them. The fashion sure has changed as we age. ?

You are confusing your opinion with what is happening. Chicago/LA Rams - the QBs played their rookie years with subpar offensive talent. They both struggled badly in their rookie year. Year 2 they began amassing offensive talent. Year 3 the Rams went after a ton of defensive help because their offense got them to the playoffs and then knocked right out. KC - they amassed the talent for Alex Smith and then after sitting a year (so again year 2 for Mahomes) they let him play. Cleveland, NY, and Arizona all drafted QBs and do not have a ton of talent around them. Cleveland might have the most, but they have chosen to allow multiple 1st round WRs leave during this season and over paid for Landry and his production. The Bills drafted their QB and will be amassing the offensive talent in year 2 just like all of the other teams with their rookie QB. They have wasted nothing that every other team with a young QB is not going through. The issue is your opinion that he won’t be ready until year 5 to lead the team when he has been just as good or better than Darnold and Rosen and was on par with Mayfield before the injury. Mayfield has pulled away the last couple of weeks.

Not sure where this comes from - most NCAA football programs not at the very top (power 5 conference) make almost no money after costs are associated with everything. There was a nice article from 2017 in the Houston Business Journal about all of the Texas colleges and what their revenue and associated costs were. Colleges like Houston essentially break even or lose money on football due to the associated costs. There were like 4 or 5 Texas colleges that were profitable (mostly UT, Texas A&M, TCU, Texas Tech, and Baylor). The difference between the top programs and these mid level schools is huge. Additionally being in Houston - how often do they need these jackets. My guess is less than 1 time a year - so they probably do not have a bunch of the Jackets because they do not need them.

Whether it is a stupid rule or not - it is a rule. The fact that he and several others wore the jackets, but when told they were not supposed to all of the other players removed them - that tells me the team did try to address it quietly. Everyone else seemed to be to be ok with it - when the star player did not listen to others - it fell to the head coach to handle it. The fact that it had to go to the head coach level is part of the issue. I do not know how many of these special jackets they have - I do not know why they made up the specific rule, but it is a rule and their are reasons beyond what we can see why they make them. Belichick does not allow big celebrations- he had to talk with Gronk about that and Gronk acknowledged being disciplined for his actions - that seems stupid for the NFL, but that is their rule. We have all kinds of rules in society that have been in place because of reasons that are long outdated and it takes discussion to change these rules - both sides dig in if you have open conflict - even if it seems stupid. The coach needed to do a better job, but Oliver needed to respect the rules when asked originally to remove it and if he wanted to wear it - have the discussion with the coach. This smacks of other issues on the team with underlying disagreements between the coach and player that a small incident becomes this blown up.

Totally disagree with this take. The tantrum and the actions are not the issue why they would not choose Oliver. They have picked up several guys that have conflicts like that including Phillips just a couple of weeks ago. McDermott is not afraid to teach and coach a player like that - he has stated many times they are looking for passionate players with talent and he falls into that category. What I think would keep him from being high on the Bills board would be if the staff and trainers in talking with the Houston staff and trainers decide his injury should not have kept him out of the line-up, but he was only thinking of himself. The Bills staff want guys that are passionate and want to play not for themselves, but for their teammates and the love of the game. They are building a family and team environment and have steadily gotten rid of me first type players (Dareus/Watkins).

Once again I am not overly impressed with the job that Lynn is doing in LA for the chargers. I think once again he has a boat load of talent on both sides of the ball and does not maximize the talent. Both years he has basically beat teams below .500 and lost to teams with a winning record. His coaching at the end of the game yesterday (along with a poor job by Rivers) cost them the game. I think he has done an adequate job, but he is not a guy I envision being a long term solution- I think he was a get the team through the transition from SD to LA and then we will find the coach of the future. I don’t believe his long term vision would have been successful in Buffalo at all.

But an offensive HC like McVay or Reid is ok calling only offense and letting the defense be handled by the DC? This is crazy - heck Belichick pulled defensive duties when he feels like it and spends time meeting with the defensive team after drives. All head coaches have to trust their coordinators and they hire guys they feel they can trust and implement what they want.

Go look at Seattle’s roster movement when Carroll took over more changes than Buffalo by far. The Rams have changed well over 50% of the roster over the last 2 years. All new WRs, O-line, D-line, secondary. The difference with the Rams was they had no big contracts - they had guys like Gurly and Donald coming up, but they did not have the resigned players. Therefore they could begin acquiring talent without eliminating contracts.

Agreed- On top top of that - next longest longevity are Harbaugh (special teams), Lewis, Carroll, and Tomlin (defense), you have Payton and McCarthy on offense. Seems to me you can get consistency and Super Bowls with eight side of the ball.

TT from 3 years ago before team started game planning him - maybe. Current year TT with an under 50% completion percentage and 2TDs and 2ints - nope not a chance. We had his play in Josh Allen - although Josh had a better completion percentage and yards per attempt, but more ints in more games. I think we are sitting at 3-7 or 4-6 and we would be benching or have already benched TT - plus we lose some like Star on defense because we have TT and his over 16 million cap hit. I would also add that the NYJ seem to have TT number - so I am not sure we get that win. As an idea see how the NYJs handled TT in Cleveland and what happened after he left. Additionally do we get the Game Winning drive against Tennessee as TT has struggled with that over the years. I think they may have been in some games, but I do not see a real change in their record. Now could he help in this late season push - maybe, but by this point he would be benched - so he would not be finishing the season as the starter anyway - so I think it is all moot.

Nice cut ups.

Never - Rex adds nothing but garbage when he speaks - I would prefer to see him pushed out the door and never have to listen to his bull again. Hated him in NY with the Jets - thought he was a blowhard and a bad coach. Hated even more that the Bills were duped into his circus show. Now I get to not pay attention to the crap he spews on ESPN - showing just how fall they have fallen. The guy is a straight Buffoon and I really need to hear less from him not more.

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I love the fact that you can put Milano out there on a RB like that and he is fine in coverage. I think even if they don’t get the pressure - Milano is still right with him. It would of taken a perfect throw.

I actually think this this is part of the reason he has not been cut. He is on his guaranteed 5th year option - cutting him saves no money - unlike Pryor who only gets paid for the weeks of service. There is always the comp pick angle, but we all know we will be signing more than we will lose - so I think it is salary more than picks. If if there was money to be saved - KB would be gone - we know they were shopping him to try and get something. Without the savings - it just adds to their dead space and the difference between him and Pryor is negligible. Now it would be interesting if someone they really wants comes available- do they cut bait and use up more roll-over money from next year.

I think that should be the plan - look around and find some young PS players.

I could not care less what you think, but look through the players signed and on the team now - the number connected to Carolina is tiny. 3 players on the Current Roster - KB at WR Star at DT DA at QB That is the entirety of the Carolina connection with Buffalo. Even the guys brought in and cut recently have been from other places. Denver, NE, NYJ, etc. You are entitled to your opinion, but I am within my rights to call you on it. It is something that people that do not like Beane and McDermott try to push as a big issue and it just is not. Have they brought in some ex-panthers - yep and when they find a better player they have replaced them all over the field - just like FAs from any other team.

Based upon the last 2 off seasons with McDermott (1 with Beane), I expect in FA they will look to add additional pieces at center, guard, WR, and TE with mid level guys to allow the draft to be more of a BPA as much as possible. I expect they will analyze where they are falling in the draft and a group of eligible players in that area and make some choices in FA, but everything I have seen in the 2 years suggests they will try to address as many open spots as possible with mid level NFL guys and then not be forced to take any one position in the draft allowing them a bit of flexibility.

Man we we need a thumbs down rep on this board - I do not understand why the Carolina connection is still an issue - they have been bringing in guys from everyplace. it is as played out as the religious reasons card that keeps being brought up.

Net makes no no sense since we have not had our bye yet meaning we have a full game on many teams - that is why YPG is more important- once all the byes are done net and YPG should be equal. I believe the Bills defense is legitimate- I also believe there is some anomaly’s present that impact it. They have been blown out in several games (mostly due to the offense and TOs) - Points per game is misleading with the pick sixes and fumbles returned for TDs. The Bills have also been unlucky getting TOs as they at one point had caused the most fumbles with the lowest recovery percentage and it was things like Baltimore with the fumble on the sideline touched by an out of bounds player or a lucky bounce back to the offense with a strip sack. This defense is legitimately nasty as they dominated teams like Chicago, Minnesota, NYJ, Tennessee, Houston, and NE and yet were blown out in a couple of those games because the offense was so bad. They made Watson, Brady, and Marriota look like sub par QBs and all have a good shot at the playoffs.

I think the coach made it clear all offseason - they were not handing him the job - he needed to earn it. They started him with the 3’s, but by the third preseason game - he was with the ones - so that suggests the sitting behind someone was less of an option. If game 3 had gone better - JA would have started game 1 - there is little doubt about that. It did not go well - so they pulled him back and left him at number 2. Additionally the coach talked about both his time in Philadelphia (McNabb sitting) and Carolina (Cam starting) and saying that both options worked. What I took away from the coach and those articles was ideally they have a starting QB that allows Josh to sit 4-10 weeks and he gets about 6-10 starts on the season. It did not work that way, but now he has had time to sit and when ready it is time to get him back out. He must be 100% healthy though.

Barkley versus the Jets: 15-25 232 2TDs - negative rushing yards and no TDs Allen versus the Vikings: 15-22 196 yds 1 TD - 39 rushing yards 2 TDs Might need to rethink your statement. Allen’s game against Minnesota was every bit as good or better because he did not benefit Shady being available and only had Ivory to run the ball. Allen accounted for 3 TDs, more yards, a better completion percentage - pretty much every measure was as good or better. Allen even had to do it with the Bills giving KB starter snaps - let’s see what happens with this younger more excited group of receivers. Now - the way I look at it is exactly like McDermott stated - if Allen is 100% he starts - if not then Barkley can start. The difference is they were close to having to start Allen at 60-75% because they could not put Peterman out again. Now they have an option and if they feel an additional week helps Allen - let him sit. If he is 100% and ready to go - let him play. You no longer have to rush him back to the starting lineup. I would also also like to see them IR Anderson- so he can still be with the team and help out, but there is no chance he plays. If you want another QB - go get a guy right now and begin getting him ready, but I do not want to see Anderson play again (and honestly I don’t think he wants to play again).

It said Poncho. it was on his Instagram.

I tend to agree - people keep calling McDermott - Jauron 2.0, but the truth is - when he feels the team has some momentum- he has been aggressive. The problem is the team has not had a ton of momentum over the last 2 years - they struggle with short yardage plays and therefore he has been less aggressive in some situations because he does not want to hand the other team a short field. A day like this allows him to do things like fakes punts and going for a fourth down because the defense is humming and the offense may be able to make up for any short comings by making a play or 2.

I really can not say they mismanaged the position - I can say that the series of events that lead to it makes it appear mismanaged. The fact that we find out that they reached out to DA before even signing AJ means that AJ was never their answer. The fact that they went after a couple of the FA QBs tells me they recognized the situation, but in the end they knew they were drafting a QB and did not want a big chunk money locked into a back-up long term. The fact that they got great value for both AJM and TT and neither is playing shows they recognized that they were not the answers. What we do not know is anything that happened behind closed doors - who and when have they gone after other QBs? What was AJMs comments when it was obvious he was the third QB on the roster - did he request a trade? What options were available at each point is important to understanding how it was handled. I do agree that thinking Peterman was the answer was a poorly drawn conclusion and that they really needed address that immediately after the Ravens game when it became obvious he was not the answer, but again if they started contacting guys like DA and he was not ready to sign that has a part in how all of this went down. In the end - it was not handled well, but I think there is always more to it than just that Beane planned it to be Allen and Peterman.