Turk71

No way would I give up such a good draft for a guy like Rosen. I think he will get physically crushed in the pros. Slight looking frame, takes a lot of hits, 2 concussions last year alone, shoulder surgery, grew up on SoCal beaches, questionable commitment and unimpressive passing efficiency in college. He has as much of a chance of busting as any of the top 6 qbs. So much hype for a guy who has done very little beyond good mechanics and footwork, I will be surprised if he becomes a great pro. Of course if the Bills pick him I will hope I am wrong.

They seem to be hoping injured players like Davis and Murphy will be good again and players like Lotu , Ivory, Bodine, etc will improve their poor play of the last few seasons. Hope it works out. Cockrell just signed today for 2yr at 3.4 per., he has been playing well and can cover slot or outside. Was hoping they were giving him a look.

Not a Comp pick crusader, I do believe all picks have value, but here is a list of a few who worked out. http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap2000000336907 list is 3 years old so there may be others to add. You fill a roster the best you can, if you get xtra picks great.

Sounds like a psychotic break, whether it was bad drug induced, a deep psychological problem, or both is a ? Really glad he didn't jump out the window or kill anyone and I hope he gets the help he needs.

I knew Henry Vestine, he was playing the local music scene in Eugene Oregon from before I got there in '90 til he died in '97. Used to see him play all the time. He played with Zappa and the Mothers before Canned Heat. There is a crater on the moon named after his father.

Right during the Intro to 'Love, Reign O'er Me', pure magic.

That's good.

Not really sold on any of these guys. Good prospects but no sure thing. No way I bet the farm on any of them. Just think its funny how you experts can state unequivocably who will suck and who will be great.

Saw the Clash open for The Who at the Stadium. Thousands of Canadian punk rockers with British flags were waiting in line since early in the morning. Worked crowd control until show started. Awesome show by both, The Who were incredible.

Yes I do, was never a big disco guy but Fibbers had the ladies, Skyroom above the old theater. Heacock park. Used to hang around the y yard and play tackle football in that park sometimes as a kid.

For you music lovers here is a high quality recording of my first and still one of my favorite Dead shows. War Memorial Aud Buffalo 77. https://archive.org/details/gd77-05-09.sbd.connor.8304.sbeok.shnf Archive.org is one of the worlds largest digital libraries and has 1000s of live recordings of hundreds of bands.

Got to see so many great bands in Buffalo in the 70s. The Who, Jethro Tull, Stones, Yes in the round and at the stadium. The Kinks, Steppenwolf. Grateful Dead '77, the Tubes at Sheas theatre, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, Frampton comes alive, Blue Oyster Cult, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Moody Blues, Emerson Lake and Palmer, I could keep going. Had tickets to the canceled Led Zeppelin stadium show when Plant's son died if I remember right. So much great music and crazy fun times I haven't thought about in a while. Glad I survived it all. Sorry for the long story, I was supposed to list my favorite bands. Yes. In Oakland. Favorite bands I have never seen : Bob Marley, Talking Heads, Dire Straits. Zeppelin.

Caz park in the 70's was a blast.

Or in Philly, it gets you a SB victory. ?

I saw Rosen play a lot in college and If he starts from day 1, I could easily see him getting injured. He needs to hit the weight room more. I also wonder why he didn't put up better numbers in college. His passer rating the last three years ranked 31, 47, and 61 out of 125 qbs. Not too impressive for a guy some people want to mortgage the future for. I think he looks the part with his mechanics, footwork, etc., but he has never impressed me as a football player. I think he lacks heart, will, and commitment to be the best. I think he could just as easily get paid and walk away as become a successful pro. No way would I give away the draft to take a chance on this guy.

6'6" Justin Herbert of Oregon will be one of the top qbs if he declares for the draft imo. Only a jr. this coming year so he may not. Needs to fill out but he is young and has the frame to do so.

So many experts on this board, a lot of you guys missed your lot in life and should definitely be put in charge of an NFL franchise. Having opinions is one thing, but the commitment and conviction some of you have as you vehemently express them and ridicule all the idiots who don't agree is awe inspiring. We are not worthy.

Sven earlier in the thread said Rudolph is "not a great runner to say the least". Not saying he is a good runner but he did run for 10 tds last year, more than anyone but Jackson. Next highest had 5, Rosen ran for -97yds and 2 tds. So using his run ability as a knock against him doesn't ring true. I am hoping the Bills get their prospect without giving up picks.

Wouldn't surprise me if the trade the farm for Rosen crowd feel pretty stupid in a few years. I don't see a sure thing among these qbs, or have a favorite.

I went to every home game when he ran for 2000 in '73, had a big poster of him on my wall. I wouldn't say he was my idol, but I was a big fan. Now I think it is an embarrassment that he is on the wall. What a piece of **** he turned out to be.

they get Richardson for 8 and the Bills pay 10 for Star. There were plenty of better options than Lotu that will sign for less money.

"That's right, I paint my face."

So, compared to how stupid the Dareus contract was, this contract isn't nearly as stupid? That's good, I guess.