BullBuchanan

I'm concerned about the financial situation of NFL running backs, teachers, nurses, coal miners, doctors, engineers, plumbers, linesmen, physicists, roofers, mechanics, programmers, oil workers and retirees. When it comes to advocating for workers, I advocate for all of them. I don't feel the need to discriminate. whether you are underpaid or not determined by whether or not someone makes less money than you. Why are you so determined to be wrong about this?

Again, I haven't ever argued anything differently than that. If you go back to my first post on the subject, I've been arguing that the NFLPA needs to bargain on RBs behalf to ensure they are in a position to get paid. To me that could come int eh form of higher minimum salary rookie deals, fully guaranteed contracts, and/or much earlier free agency. To fix the problem, you need to remove the exploit that is the NFL draft and rookie wage scale that negatively impacts RBs more than any other position.

And? No one is arguing that RBs are more important than QBs.

Well, I definitely understand that. It doesn't have to mean that teams are spending money appropriately though. The overvaluing of mediocre DL being an example.

These same GMs are giving Daniel Jones $40M a year. Forgive me if I don't defer 100% of judgement to their expertise. I don't disagree that many drafted RBs turn out to be "fine". As far as how many Late/undrafted ones are key contributors on their teams? Not many All of the top 8 backs from last year were 1st or 2nd round picks. There are a handful of guys in the next tier down from the 4th round and only Ekeler, mostert, wilson And Pacheco that were 6th rd or later in the top 25. The most reliable way to get elite production from an RB is still to draft one in the top 50 picks.

Sailing is a luxury activity pretty much any definition and Connecticut is one of the most expensive states int he country. No projection at all on my side - just straight facts.

His numbers aren't statistically significant. He put up those averages with carry totals of 22 and 56 respectively. He likely benefited from limited usage.

No, you're coming off super jealous, because there's no reason to put down someone that works for living unless you're jealous or you have a vested interest int hem earning less. The goal of working for a living isn't to "not hurt financially". It's to achieve the maximum income you can for the value you provide. It's a weird take for a guy bragging about his luxury activities and living in expensive places.

In college? Also, YPC isn't an actionable insight on its own. It's a KPI, but It doesn't tell you who is providing more value, because it lacks any sort of context around the "why". It's also not really useful to compare the season records of teams with elite RBs. One could make the argument that without those players, bad teams would have been far worse.

If we had a player on offense that wasn't emotionally exhausted, maybe it would've made the difference. I think it was a huge missed at bat for Beane. Who said it was a hardship? Your envy over what other people make is blinding you to the reality that you have more in common with them than you do differences.

The other thing people forget is that for a lot of these guys they are compressing the prime earning years of their entire life into 3-4 years in their early to mid twenties. If you're a plumber or programmer, you usually make more money the older you get, but for the majority of NFL players, they'll never make more money than they do while they're int he league. Given that the average career is less than 4 years long and most guys never make more than a million a season, that's not a lot of money for a lifetime. If you want to retire at 30 and live a totally normal every day, suburban lifestyle outside any top 50 city in the US, you better plan on having $4M-$6M stashed away. Yea, there's nothing stopping these guys from getting normal jobs after retirement, but when football has been your only focus since you were 8 years old, you probably aren't well equipped to go earn a couple hundred grand a year at a fortune 500 company.

Because they are still workers and they are getting shafted by their employers based on their contributions. The money exists, it's just a matter of who gets it. It doesn't benefit you to ***** on a fellow worker just because they may earn more than you. It doesn't matter if they work at McDonalds or the NFL. It doesn't matter is they make $7/hr or $1M/hr. They should still get the maximum they can for the value they provide their employers, because it benefits all of us for that to happen. The whole "they should quit crying about how much money they make" perspective is an incredibly toxic attitude that does nothing but set workers and society backwards.

That's the thing though, it's not easy to replace elite RBs, even if people keep repeating it. Yea, you can replace guys like Devin Singletary all day long. Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffery, Josh jacobs, Austin Ekeler, Nick Chubb, Saquon Barkley? Good luck with that. One of those guys comes out of the draft every couple of years. Do you "need" one? clearly not. Are they major contributors tot heir team's offensive production? Undoubtedly.

I hope the NFLPA does something to address this at the next collective bargaining session. Perhaps giving RBs a one-way contract void after their 2nd year for a first round pick or their rookie year for a 2nd round+ would be a way to force teams to compensate them fairly. Alternatively, they could force a RB specific rookie wage scale. We all know that you don't want to pay an aging back, but you should have to pay a young one. It's become pretty clear RBs got hosed the most by the rookie wage scale. They contribute massively to the offensive production of teams but get a pittance in compensation compared to their counterparts.

Worst helmet ever. Just awful from a design standpoint.

I don't think Allen is to blame, and if you remember Rivers' postseason issues, a lot of SD's failures were hard to blame on him as well. He had kickers miss chip shots, he had skill position players fumble or bobble throws for picks at the last minute. These weren't all int he playoffs, but they lost so many close games over the years that it did impact the chargers ability to get more cracks at the can. Ultimately what's remembered is that Rivers didn't win when it mattered. They don't remember the fumbles, bobbles, dropped passes, defensive implosions, penalties or anything else that cost them a chance at a ring. Maybe Josh escapes that criticism if he continues to dominate in spite of a ring, but it's hard to avoid it forever.

1 AFC championship game appearance in 5 years, despite three straight division championships would indicate the opposite. Look, I'm not dying on that hill, and I'm not saying being Rivers 2.0 is even a bad thing. Despite people hating on him, he's undeniably one of the greatest passers in NFL history.However, he was never able to get a loaded team over the hump. Josh's team isn't quite as loaded, but they've had top 5 talent over the last few years and so the comparisons are going to come. Personally, i think it's more of a coaching problem, but Josh won't escape responsibility if it continues much longer.

A lot of people are saying that about Josh too.

There never has been. It's always been extremely thin at the top.

They're a coach away. Perhaps the Bills are too.

I stopped reading what you had to say right there. 8 years ago, lol. 🤡

risks that he might miss a quarter of football over 5 years running the ball vs the multiple games and season long impact of two UCL injuries sustained in the pocket? Have you even figured out that you're wrong yet? He doesn't though. There have been multiple breakdowns on his limitations with coverage disguises. Here's one:

So, two minor injuries where he missed less than a full game and had no long term impact to performance. Sorry, I won't consider either of those things to be significant injuries that back up your argument.

Ryan bates play has been far from "trash". I think his play has been better than Morse overall. One could argue he's playing between two weak players in Morse and Brown.

Why is there such a big focus this year on turning him into Drew Bledsoe? The only place he's ever gotten hurt is in the pocket. He's bigger than everyone who can tackle him and that's where he's special. If you force him into being a pocket passer, you're taking away a major part of what makes him special.