BullBuchanan

Classic Billsy meltdown. This was always coming.

Fire Dorsey

Hollywood can't handle the heat again.

There's the Hollywood we all know and loathe. He was late today, but finally showed up.

As someone that never wanted McD hired and desperately wants him fired, that is 99.9999999999999999% not going to happen.

You can also use chuck.

When I have an average coach who isn't capable of elevating his team, I'd rather roll the dice to see if I can find a force multiplier, even if it means I get a worse coach in the interim. A GM/owner who knows what they're doing should at minimum be able to get a hire that's competent. It's finding the special talent that's hard or even lucky.

I felt burned out this time last year. I've seen enough teams that didn't have "it", to be relatively certain that this one doesn't either. After all of the excuses of the team being "emotionally exhausted" last year after completely laying down, I looked to the off-season to figure out which way things would go, and all I saw there was more "trust the process" nonsense that said while we addressed some holes and brought in some talent, we didn't bring in any difference makers that would put us over the top. Once we started seeing the product on the field, I was anything but surprised. I couldn't even allow myself to get excited during the Eagles game because I was sure we'd throw up all over ourselves. Now that we have, it just reinforces all the negativity. Something big is going to have to change for me to get excited again, because this team is going no where as it stands.

He's just a poor man's Murray, and we already have Murray. a 3rd string RB won't be the difference maker for us.

If you follow fans of other teams, the narrative is that the Bills are a protected class by NFL referees. Refereeing is bad in general. It doesn't affect the Bills any worse than it does anyone else. We have gotten a ton of BS calls going in our favor like PIs and Roughing the Passer and getting away with a ton of holding.

Those two statements are mutually exclusive. Mahomes could retire today and go down as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Mahomes has 2 Super Bowl Championships, 2 SB MVPs, 2 league MVPS, 2 1st team all pros, 5 straight AFC Championship appearances (every year he's started), 2 time league passing leader, and is currently the #1 all time leader in passer rating. Josh Allen has 1 AFC championship appearance. That's it. He doesn't play the same sport as Mahomes and never will. We've had so few quality QBs in Bills history that our entire sense of scale is thrown off, and we say ridiculous things. Josh Allen, is very, very good. He's a top 5 QB and a top 20 NFL talent. We can argue all day about the nuance of where he falls in those numbers, but that should be enough.

He's tied and has less INTs. Try again.

He absolutely did though. He completed 75% of his passes with a 141 passer rating. He was just shy of perfect and had his team resting by half time. He now leads Allen in every meaningful passing category. Are you trying to look silly?

People that believe in conspiracies have never worked in management at large companies. Those that have understand how ridiculous the notion is. Never associate that with malice that can be explained by incompetence.

In a board full of ridiculous posts, this might be the most insane. We've lost 3 of our last 4, 4 of our last 6 and 5 of our last 8. By no measure are we even a "good" team, let alone "the best team in the AFC". You'd have to make a strong argument to fight for us being an average team right now despite our record.

So much for what? Did you miss his dominating performance?

I'm not arguing those should either. Frankly, trying to evaluate the best player via aggregate stats is a dumb way to measure performance regardless. They do nothing to tell you the value that a player added to a play, game, or season over another player.

I'm not fighting rushing TDs. Josh is clearly one of the top 2 rushing QBs in the NFL, he's also one of the overall most athletic QBs in the NFL. Most of my post was about other things.

I guess you're conceding?

We already covered rushing TDs. I personally don't think they mean very much for a QB, because it's just siphoning TDs that in most offenses would go to a RB. What else you got? Tua will probably drop another 3-4TDs this week and leave Allen even further in the dust in every other category. Besides Tua, He'd also definitely be behind Dak, Jackson, Purdy, Stroud, and likely Mahomes. Hurts, Goff, Herbert and Allen are all playing pretty equally this year with the primary difference being two of them are leading their teams to piles of wins, Allen is .500 and Herbert is in the basement. After the Bills bye, it's not unrealistic for them all to have pretty identical stat lines.

Nope, I'm just not one of those morons who thinks he's the bets player in the NFL.

What? Tua has a higher YPG and his TD per game is equal. He has a 0.45 INT ratio compared to Allens 54% Int ratio. He also has a higher completion percentage, and blows him out of the water on Passer Rating. Most importantly, he's winning.

And Tua Leads in just about everything else.

Allen isn't even the best QB in his own division this year and we're still talking MVP? Only in Billsland.I don't have him in the top 5 QBs this year, and if we're talking MVP he's no higher than 10th. You have some non-QBs like Hill, McCaffery, who should be legitimate candidates, with Lamb being a possibility and if the Chargers weren't trash, Kennan Allen would definitely be int he conversation. If MVP voting were fair, DaRon Bland should definitely be in consideration as he's having one of the best seasons for a CB ever. If he goes undefeated and posts 400 yards and 4 TDs a game against 0.25 INTs, no fumbles and a bunch of blowouts maybe we can have this discussion. I don't see any evidence of that being at all likely this year. More realistically we finish 8-10 or 9-8, Allen adds 13 more combined TDs and 8 more turnovers and we talk some more about how good the NFL is and how hard it is to win out there, mental exhaustion, and "accountability".