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Ever since Mahomes started racking up rings, he makes it look like being a quarterback is easy. All he does is call the play, complete the pass, score the touchdown. Prior to the last few years, he made a lot more insane hero plays like Allen does. I was super excited when I saw how Allen look under Dorsey, because I felt that McD finally got it, that to win the big games consistently, your QB has to be boring. I've thought from the very beginning that Allen needed to be housebroken, and it looked like it was happening, despite the fact that he clearly didn't like it and was struggling with it. Instead, they abandoned that plan and let him go back to doing what he wants. It makes for a hell of a show, but it doesn't get you rings. It gets you blaming kickers, and punters, and WRs, because you start getting a ton of "did you see that play Allen made! How could his team let him down like that?". I'd rather Allen throw the ball at the top of his drop to Cook who's 4 yards downfield, in stride, than watch him throw the best pass anyone's ever seen across his body while falling down, right on the fingers of a guy 49 yards downfield. Give me that boring, high percentage play instead. If you need a hero, with 30 seconds left, you have one. Give me a game manager the other 59:30 Manning is my favorite player of all time, but he was a clear #2 to Brady by the end, and he's behind Mahomes now.

Why can't Allen just be "really good" and that be enough? Putting him ahead of Mahomes, who has probably already locked up #2 QB of all time, is completely delusional, even in a hypothetical. There's probably a healthy amount of people that would even have Burrow in the conversation for #2 right now, but they're both way behind Mahomes, imo.

I think Romo is already the best color commentator of all-time, but there are always contrarians for every great thing.

Re-read the post you quoted and you'll have my answer.

It's gotta be Von Miller. Right now he's a $40M boat anchor. He was supposed to be the missing piece to the Super Bowl, and now he's an albatross. Take away his name, and the player he was last year isn't good enough to be a practice squad player in the NFL at league minimum.

I guess you're just hellbent on having a bad take here. Well, I won't get in your way anymore. Enjoy.

Cool. What does that have to do with anything? KC has unique advantages that let them win super bowls with weak WRs, much like the early 2000 patriots. We, very obviously, do not. Until we wake up one day and have one of the top 2 coaches, QBs, and TEs to ever play the game, comparing how our team is built to theirs is beyond meaningless.

How many people think he isn't a "top 10 coach"? Put me int he "McDermott hater" category I guess. Top 10 isn't good enough if your goal is to win a Super Bowl.

So, this post is all about you talking umbrage with my use of the word "pedigree"? Fine, I'll rephrase. Lee Evans would be the best WR on the 2024 roster.

Matakevich is still a free agent, so that seems like an easy way to spend $4m I'd rather have Hamlin than Hyde at this point. Hyde is totally washed and Hamlin was more than serviceable when he filled in.

What makes you so co confident this group is better than that? Matthews had better recent seasons than any WR on our roster? Replace JA with Tyrod taylor and are you really saying it isn't much of a coinflip? I'm absolutely not. That said, if you want to argue that two year period, fine. You won't find another where we didn't have at least one legitimate WR on the roster. We had Reed, moulds, Evans, S.Johnson, Woods, Watkins covering the entire preceding span among others. Feel free to die on this hill. Lee Evans had more pedigree than every WR on our roster combined. A lot fo teams don't have more than 1 very good WR, if they even have that. 2010 was nothing to scoff at.

Why not? I'm not saying people expected the world from him, but it's pretty natural to expect a certain level of progression from a rookie WR.

Yes, Claypool had 860 yard seasons, 3 teams ago before flushing his career down the drain. If he can get back to that, he'll be a great addition, but no one should be expecting that. Samuel had one season above 800 yards and it was 4 years ago. He's been a 600 yard player since. MVS is indeed a winner, and likley why he's here over other talents with better production - a 300 -700 yard player Jones and Coleman were drafted a few picks apart. Calling it a wash for now. Shakir certainly has potential. I love the kid, and I'm expecting big things. Still, he has 49 career receptions coming into this season. Benjamin WAS a #1 receiver. He had one of the best WR seasons for a rookie ever. Framing it as though I was some outlier that thought he was a talent that no one else did is intellectually dishonest.

Not picking and choosing anything, just talking about expectations vs how they ended up. Zay Jones was an equivalent to Coleman, Matthews was superior to both Shakir and Samuel. We don't have anyone in the WR room with the off-season potential that Benjamin had.

Kelvin Benjamin was a former 1000 yard receiver. We all know he turned into a massive dud with us, but that's not who he was coming in. Likewise in 2017 Jordan Matthews would implode, going from a perennial 900 yard player to sub 300 numbers - we also had a rookie Zay Jones who would have a promising sophomore season. They weren't strong years by any means, but I was definitely more optimistic about those groups than I am about the current crop because Benjamin was supposed to be our #1. We don't even have a #1 on this squad. I like Shakir a lot. I don't hate Samuel, and who knows what Coleman will be, but there's no one in that group you can point to and know they're going to be a major factor. You have to hope. He doesn't play the same sport as Diggs. His highest ever yardage total was 850 yards on 97 targets. He'll be a good piece for us, but he can't do what Stefon Diggs did for us, because there are only a handful of guys int he league that can, and he's not one of them.

Pass the kool aid. This isn't just a drastic step down from what we had by every possible measurement, it's likely the weakest WR group we've had on paper in the last 40 years.

I'd let every one of those guys walk, except for Allen and Shakir if his numbers are reasonable.

He might be saying that, but the sun is only a factor to the point that it's typically hotter in the sun vs the shade at a given place and time. You can get heatstroke inside, so I don't consider it to be that much of a factor in this discussion if the weather is still hot and we're still unprepared for it. Regardless, my comment was a little tongue in cheek. I don't expect us to lose 10 players to injury again, but I expect an extremely high likelihood where they're unprepared to play in that kind of environment on short rest and lose while looking listless in the process.

That's great advice - you should take it. It was 86 degrees last September 12th at 8pm in Miami with 72% humidity for a real feel of 93 degrees. https://world-weather.info/forecast/usa/miami/12-september/ “Generally, caution should be taken if the heat index is over 77 degrees (Fahrenheit). Above 82 degrees is considered ‘extreme caution’ — heat-related illness is possible with long exposure. Over 85 is dangerous — heat illness is likely and heat stroke is possible. Eighty-nine and above gives a high risk of heat stroke,” Dr. Sterling Ransone, a practicing family physician in Deltaville, Virginia, told Healthline." https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-you-should-do-if-you-exercise-work-in-the-heat

You've never been in the south in September then? It was 92 in Austin today at 8:15.

Vote dolphins. We'll be playing the dolphins in Miami on 4 days rest on September 12th. High chance of it being the Heat Stroke Game all over again. They have so much talent on their team that if they split with us, I could see them winning more games than us for sure. The Jets are a possibility. Rodgers may have one more year where he can throw a team on his back, but I'm not a believer right now.

in no particular order I have us behind these teams in terms of strength (wins might not line up) Chiefs Ravens Texans 49ers Lions I think we're in a tier that includes the Bengals, Dolphins, Browns, Cowboys, Eagles and Packers to start the year. We could be at the top of that group or the bottom. I'll give the Bills the benefit of the doubt and say they're the 8th best team, but I don't have a ton of confidence in it. This is the weakest roster we've had in Allen's tenure, imo. The Chargers are probably the biggest wild card in football right now. They might be a top 4 team depending on how fast Harbaugh can right the ship.

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I can see AJ having an 8-10 sack season this year. He's had back to back 6.5 sack seasons with limited reps. He was a monster last season but kept getting rotated out for Shaq and the ghost of Von Miller. I'm hoping he's the full time #2 with Miller serving out the remainder of his tenure here in a reserve role - ideally as the #4 or even #5. Realistically, McD won't be able to help himself and he'll be the #2b or #3 unless someone else steals the job outright.

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