BullBuchanan

He clearly should have been fired last season. They wasted another year of Herbert and maybe Keenan Allen's last great year for nothing.

None of this should be a surprise. His value was clear when the trade was made and those of us who were aware of him, knew this was a great addition.

Why am I not surprised you're here with the worst possible take? First of all, I didn't decide his guilt or innocence. He slept with a 17 year old high school girl as a 21 year old college senior. In most places, consent doesn't really matter matter there. Second of all, he was never "cleared" of anything. The DA declined to press charges. Third of all, the sexual assault that occurred inside the house didn't require Araiza to be present for it to be an assault. Me calling him a scumbag for his actions that night doesn't change whether or not he was involved in the assault, nor does it even require an assault to have taken place. THE DUDE BANGED A HIGHSCHOOLER OUTSIDE A FRAT HOUSE BY HIS OWN ADMISSION. If you want to run him for mayor or give him a key to the city, you go right ahead. He'll always be a scumbag to me that never deserves another story about him, unless it's about a future crime. If you were a high school senior and they were in middle school, you'd be right. Since that's not what we're talking about though, it's irrelevant. I think not getting to play in the NFL is about the lightest possible outcome for something that could have, and probably should have been far more severe. It's pretty clear most of you guys think that this is just 100% fine. Despite how deplorable I find that to be, I'm not going to convince you of a new morality, so good luck with your 1950s era views on assault moving forward in your lives and hopefully it's never a problem for you or anyone you know.

yes. I couldn't get the stats for the delta between 50 and 61(where martin ranks currently), so I figure top 10 is a safe assumption until he gets into the top 50 all time punt yard leaders, which he should hit in 2 years if he sticks with the bills or possibly 1 year on another team.

https://www.footballdb.com/leaders/career-punting-yards https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DpPjwoUJ9kS5cQVoce-O4FJ636A5hySKICACBUEUnjE/edit?usp=sharing https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MartSa01.htm If he retired today he'd be 7th.

I didn't realize it was a coded message. 35%+ of punts downed inside the 20 is an extremely good number over the long haul. Most of the guys above him are punting well in the short term, likely due to factors outside their control. if you look year over year, it changes a lot. Stonehouse and Fox were lower than martin last year. Martin is consistently good every year.

Why is it a problem? You do know his current % of 36.6% puts him in the top 10 all time for punters with 500 punts right?

a sexual assault survivor?

We are. He's still a scumbag.

Why's that? Clearly what he did was 100% fine according to many here. After all, boys will be boys.

Well, I hope you all invite him to babysit your high school daughters. I for one am glad he's out of the league.

If you don't think having unprotected sex with a wasted minor while you have an STD outside a frathouse makes you a terrible person, I look forward to your mandated door to door visits. with a child

Reminder: He still had sex with a high school kid outside a frat house without protection. He's not the good guy here.

You know that percentage matters, right? He can't punt inside the 20 when the team doesn't punt. He is 19th this year and was 17th last year and hitting htta percentage on a yearly basis is an elite level of performance when you measure over a career.

This is a weird move. A rookie who hasn't played all year is suddenly going to be on the 53 for the final playoff push and playoffs?

Why is any of that bad? Brazil shares timezones with us. It's one of the easiest places to do something like this.

2/3 of those things are terrible anyway.

This fanbase is so silly far too often. Martin has a 36.8% inside the 20 yard line this season against a career 36.6. That is incredible. It's better than Shane Lechler. He's all time elite at that skill and puts him up there with the all time greats at placement kicking. He's also top 17 all time in net average for punters with more than 500 punts and even higher when you consider most of the top guys were in the 50s and 60s. Stop acting like he's a bad punter. He's elite having a less than career year.

Yes.

I dunno, I had an amazing time watching the Bills at Gold Coast. I basically created a Bills backers bar in there.

Why not just hit a casino? they should have all the games at the sportsbook.

He's only had one season(2020) so far where he was legitimately in the discussion, and unfortunately Rodgers was there with him and just edged him out. he was a distant 2nd/3rd in 2021/2022 and If he wins out with good performances he may be able to claim another 2nd place this year. His only shot at winning IMO is an AFC meltdown where the Bills get the 1st seed. Otherwise it goes to Purdy, McCaffery or Dak I think with Stroud being a dark horse if they win the division. It's hard to argue that any player is more valuable to their team than Stroud has been this year, but that's not the way the voting works.

He's my fantasy QB and I'm the #1 seed. 🥹

Yes.