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I understand what you're saying but the two coaches you mentioned aren't responsible for bringing in talent. They refer to their GM and tell them which guys they like and the GM will do what he can to bring in those guys but it's not like Sean McVay just grabs a cart and goes player shopping and takes whoever he wants. You should read the interview Jay Skurski did with Brandon Beane. Came out today. Beane is well aware of where the offense is at and there are obviously plans to add talent in the off-season. But this past off-season it was really about them getting out of those contracts that have them eating $50 million in dead money right now. He stated that they definitely did their due diligence and made attempts to get different players to come here but their money situation made it tough for them to be competitive in terms of contract offers. Plus, any offensive skill players are gonna be hesitant to come to a team in the midst of a rebuild with a lot of inexperienced players on the roster, especially if they have offers somewhere else. Not like the front office just sat back and said, "Screw it, whatever happens happens" they shopped around but just didn't have the money this year. This next off-season should be super interesting. Bills should be big time players as they'll have plenty of cash to throw around. And regarding the topic of this thread, McBeane isn't going anywhere. Beane pretty much says so in the interview. The Pegulas are all-in on these guys and their vision for this team and they will give them the time they need. Beane said himself he wouldn't have come here if ownership did not have the long-term outcome in mind. It's painful at the moment because they're not scoring any points but I think these dudes deserve a little patience. They took a rag-tag squad to the playoffs last year and have built an impressive defense that will (hopefully) only get better. Give 'em a chance to build the offense and let's see what happens.

Backup QBs with no pro film have an upstart game like this fairly regularly. He played well, I'm not taking that away from him. But Shanahan helped him a lot in how he schemed his receivers to get open and then Oakland just rolled over. His first or second TD pass, the dude was wide open and walked into the end zone. Aikman pointed out during the game how the Raiders weren't staying in their zones, guys were just doing whatever they wanted it seemed. Tell you what though, gimme that George Kittle dude over ol' Charles Clay any day of the week. I like Clay, I just think he's limited due to his injury history. Kittle made an insane one-handed catch over the middle then took it another 50-60 yards to the 5-yard line.

It was reported that the Ravens were ready to make him an offer as well but he would've rejected it because he knew he'd be behind Flacco. And honestly, I still don't get the love affair for Kaepernick. It's not like he was lights out over his last couple of seasons. He last played in 2016 where he had a 1-10 record as the starter. And his numbers over the last few seasons were even lower than Tyrod's. Kaep lucked out early in his career when SF had a solid defense. Oh, his career completion percentage is 59.8. I know another guy with a career completion percentage below 60 and he is regularly torn up by fans/media for it. But Kaep? Nobody bothers to mention his accuracy issues. Or the fact that he hasn't played professional football in 1.5 seasons. So I guess I just don't realize why people would think he could step in anywhere and be a solid QB.

Raiders have checked out on Gruden. Nobody on that defense was even trying. Made Mullens appear a lot better than he actually is, I'm sure. Put him up against a real defense that's actually going to play and it'll be a different story.

You might be thinking of someone else. EJ made two starts in Oakland last year and threw for like 104 and 165 yards in both starts.

Actually, I think Zay has had a little more success when they line him up outside. Shady in the slot could be fun, though. They're gonna need to keep being creative as possible. I guess one positive about Peterman starting is that he knows the whole playbook. Daboll might be able to open things up a little bit. Might get lucky and throw something at the Bears that isn't on film yet.

This dude is such a chode. Has no idea how to relate to players, is way out of touch with current coaching methods, has probably never read a teaching book in his life. Bah. And someone already mentioned it but yes, he has one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen.

Yeah, I think Dawkins is fine. They wanted out of Glenn's contract and things kinda happened organically at that position. Glenn got hurt, Dawkins stepped in and played well. I'm sure Incognito helped him along but overall, he's been solid. And Ducasse hasn't been as abysmal as people think. Any OL has to play well as a unit and right now I'd say Bodine and Miller are the weak links. I thought Miller could bounce back to his 2016 form but he hasn't. Bodine is serviceable but he gets man-handled far too often. MIlls on the right side has actually been decent.... until he faces a speed rusher like Khalil Mack. Oh, lil' Nate... be prepared to run for yo' life!

Aside from them trying to start Peterman last season, injuries are the cause of all the QB shuffling. Stuff happens, I guess.

If a DT is the best overall player on the board when they're picking and they haven't received any "knock your socks off" offers to trade down and collect more picks, then by all means, take that DT. Carolina did that in 2016, their d-line was already a strong spot on the roster and they had needs elsewhere but they drafted Vernon Butler. I checked up on his stats the other day and it would appear he hasn't lived up to the first round status but either way, sometimes adding to an already strong position group isn't a bad thing. And as for Glenn vs. Dawkins... I think it's almost a push at this point. Dawkins played well enough for them to trade Glenn and honestly, they were going to move on from Glenn regardless. They wanted out of that contract. Now they have a decent LT on his rookie deal, makes things much more manageable. I also think the injuries were piling up for Glenn and that played a role in them moving on.

If it comes down to those two? Ed Oliver without question. And Dion Dawkins is this teams left tackle now and in the future. We went through years of, "Kick Glenn to guard and draft this guy!" and it never happened. It's not happening with Dawkins. If they need to upgrade guard, they'll sign or draft a guard. They traded up to take Dawkins and felt he played well enough to replace Cordy Glenn. As far as they're concerned, they have found their left tackle. They're not going to change that.

They'll be fine. It's not about having an "innovative offensive coach" right now. It's a talent deficiency on that side of the ball. Throw Andy Reid in there, Matt Nagy, Sean McVay, whoever you want, they wouldn't score a whole lot more than Daboll has. Thinking that hiring some kind of innovative coach fixes things isn't the answer. Those guys I mentioned above have real talent on offense. Let these dudes shape the offense like they shaped the defense and see what happens. There's no point in messing with things as they are right now. After the season, sure, there may be some coaching changes, but I can guarantee there'll be no change at head coach, defensive coordinator and likely offensive coordinator. Special teams, maybe, and maybe a few other spots but overall, this regime is aiming for continuity as they work to build sustained success.

I'm fine with McBeane. For years, so many fans wanted this organization to tear it all down and start fresh. When they finally do that, people can't take it and think hitting "reset" in the middle of a reset is the best idea. If you wanna see if this team can break its own playoff drought record, well, start with hiring and firing coaching and front office staffs every other year. That's how they fell short for 17 straight seasons. They were of the mind that they could always "win now!" if they just added a few pieces here and there but it never worked. The only other actual rebuild I think we can consider would've been when Chan came in here and told Ralph he could win without star players. Even ol' Chan, with his pal Buddy who thought signing Mario Williams was his crowning achievement (until, of course, he drafted the generational superstar known as EJ Manuel) and started their Bills tenure with a phenomenal 0-8 record, were given two more seasons after that. McBeane comes in here and in YEAR ONE, takes the team to the playoffs, despite having started their rebuild in the 2017 pre-season by trading Watkins, Darby, etc. They got some nice breaks in 2017 and found their way into the playoffs and that has set unrealistic expectations on 2018. I think a lot of people felt like, "They made the playoffs, why mess with the roster now?!" Well, because they weren't going to sustain any sort of long-term success with that roster. And the contract situation really plays heavily into all of it. They were strapped for cash over players like Marcell Dareus and Cordy Glenn. Both decent players but neither of them special players that couldn't be replaced with cheaper, younger options. They're building this thing the right way. Look at Chicago last season. Their offense was a dumpster fire and their rookie QB struggled all year. This season, they added some pieces and have made a lot of progress. Not to mention, they spent their first round pick on a linebacker instead of an offensive player. Their second-year QB is playing well and they don't have to worry about dishing out huge money to him for another three years. That gave them the ability to go out and sign a few receivers and some OL this past off-season. I assume the Bills are planning on doing the same type of thing. All throughout the drought, all this organization did was throw a band-aid on things or sell hope and say they were "this close" to turning the corner if they could just get a guy like this or that. Clearly that didn't work. At this point, you gotta see it through. Let these guys keep working. Yeah, it's a bummer of a season but it was to be expected. Just let them keep grinding and I think good things are in their future.

He is the epitome of a gym class hero. Human paraquat.

They've said it before, Beane has the final call on personnel decisions, just like any GM in football. And yesterday, McDermott was asked about the trade deadline and he said, "Brandon handles those calls" or something to that effect. I'm sure McDermott is in the loop on personnel stuff but Beane is charge of all that. Both guys have said they report to the Pegulas directly.

Aw man, too bad they didn't swing a trade for Jameis Winston that way him and Peterman can have an INT contest.

Does he have to go through waivers or is he instantly a free agent?

Montgomery squandered any chance of the Packers winning that game Sunday. He was told before the kick-off to take the knee whether the kick was half a yard in the end zone or 9 yards in the end zone. However, on the previous offensive series, Montgomery was pulled and threw a tantrum. Some are saying the reason he decided to return that kick was his own personal "FU" to the coaching staff. Now he can go fumble kick-offs for the Ravens.

He came super close to catching that ball but even if he did, I think he would've landed out of bounds.

I guess he must've had some sort of epiphany while zipping around in his little starship.

Definitely a nice surprise, a guy I'd like to see them retain.

Oh man, I didn't catch that. Those jerks. I was kinda baffled as to why it was Bush they decided to ask to do a song. I assume they were in the area for their own show or something.

That whole crew has really bad chemistry. Whatever the Bills did, they'd call it out and say they have to do the opposite.

I'd hire him before Jackson.

Gotcha. We'd all like to see more from Lawson and it'd be nice if Murphy could consistently stay healthy. Not saying the dude is All-Pro but he is pretty consistent in getting pressures. This next draft is loaded with DL talent so if they think they need to add some pass rushers, they should be able to find a good one. On the flip-side, it's not a great draft for offense.