Logic

But was he just "playing on" a multiple time national champion, or was he largely responsible FOR the multiple national championships they won during his tenure?

I mean, fair enough..but while Allen was surrounded by inferior skill position players, he was also playing AGAINST inferior skill position players. If a guy comes out of a lesser conference, I want to see that he DOMINATED that conference. Wentz dominated in college. Allen, on the other hand, threw only 16 TDs this season. Not encouraging, given that he was going against all those vaunted Mountain West defenses ever week!

Fair enough. I would also argue that logic dictates that we have over 30 torturously long days to go until the draft and are running out of good topics and need to do SOMETHING to pass the time!

34 responses so far, and not a single Peterman vote. Did this guy poop on a box of Flutie Flakes or what?! I guess a 5 interception debut will do that to ya...

One way or the other, I expect the Bills to draft a rookie QB in the draft next month. Furthermore, it's pretty clear that there will be an open QB competition in training camp to decide who starts. It's easy to just say "I want whoever wins the competition to be the starter!". Well...duh! I also realize that not knowing who the rookie QB will be will perhaps impact the answers to this. Maybe it won't. What I'm asking is who would YOU PERSONALLY like to see as the starter at QB for the Bills on opening day? Do you want to see McCarron get his shot? Maybe you think Peterman got a bad rap last year and deserves another go of it in a new offense? Perhaps you think rookie QBs should start from day one and take their lumps? Perhaps you're dead set on a rookie sitting on the bench in year one? So the question is... Who would you like to see under center on opening day in 2018 and why?

I respectfully disagree, and will be more than ready to eat crow if I'm wrong. I'll admit to being predisposed to anti-Allen bias by being a Bills fan, and thus being terrified of big-armed, inaccurate QBs who "check all of the physical boxes" but can't actually play QB well. Nevertheless...as pointed out by The Ringer, in all major measurable quarterback performance metrics, Josh Allen ranks DEAD LAST among draftable quarterbacks this year. Dead last. To choose him over guys like Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold -- who are superior in every statistical category despite playing against vastly superior competition -- simply based on the idea that Allen has a cannon arm and big upside, would be foolhardy and arrogant. I expect it to happen, though, because NFL GMs ARE often foolhardy and arrogant, and they fall into this trap over and over again. Again, I recognize that scouting (especially at the QB position) and projecting players into the NFL is a very complex business, and I'll admit if I'm way off on this one. But I don't think I am. Allen terrifies me.

I appreciate you posting this article, HOWEVER... I cannot for the life of me figure out why any team would share this information, even with it being anonymous. I ESPECIALLY can't figure out why, during the most secretive offseason moment of a very secretive sport, said team would choose to share such sensitive information with such a no-name, rinky-dink outfit. Doesn't make a lick of sense.

As pointed out on Twitter this morning, the Browns: - Gave up a high 3rd round pick for a very capable bridge QB and immediately named him starter - Also signed Drew Stanton (Starter: Tyrod, Backup: Stanton, 3rd/development: Rookie) - Have a GM who was involved in the drafting and redshirting of Mahomes and Rodgers - Have an OC (Todd Haley) who most recently had success with a big-armed, strong QB (Big Ben) No one should be the least bit surprised if the Browns DO, in fact, take Josh Allen. And my, what a Browns-y thing that would be! Here's hoping it happens!

Even in a post in which you are attempting to clarify that you weren't insulting me, you felt that need to mention that I might be irretrievably stupid. Cool. Let me know if you want to talk about football. I have no interesting in carrying on a conversation based on personal attacks.

Ah, DC Tom. I know I can always count on you to make personal attacks in posts that don't warrant them. Also, it's 2018, maybe you could come up with some form of criticism other than calling things "retarded"? I guess I was operating under the mistaken impression that this is a message board built for discussion of topics. I missed the part where anyone who disagrees with you automatically has "retarded" opinions and is illogical. For your original post with the list of names to have any merit, we'd have to compare the success rate (30%, as you stated) with the collective success rate of all QBs taken OUTSIDE the top 10 picks in the past four decades. Want to guess which list has a higher rate of success overall? But forgive me, there I go again, DARING to have opinions that differ from yours, for which I must clearly be illogical and "retarded". Some real mature, high quality rebuttal on your part, as usual.

Yes, there are a lot of misses on the list. There are also a lot of hits and a few Hall of Famers. You miss all of the shots you don't take. Yes, the Bills could wind up with an Akili Smith or Jamarcus Russell. They could also end up with a John Elway or Peyton Manning. You've got to fire your gun at some point and hope for the best. Lord knows we've got enough bullets this year.

Darnold- Face of Franchise Rosen- Solid Starter Allen- Bust Mayfield- Hall of Fame Pace Jackson- Face of Franchise Rudolph - Backup

Baker's my top choice. I believe he'll be the best QB from this draft. I hope the Bills take him but am not feeling too optimistic about it.

Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, and Tom Brady are three of the least athletic, most "statuesque" passers I can ever remember.

I sincerely doubt that the Colts didn't give Beane a chance to beat the Jets' offer. If the Jets beat the Bills to the 3 spot, it's because Beane chose not to agree to whatever it was going to take to beat the Jets' offer.

Yes. Kyle Williams being rewarded for years of hard work, his reaction...pretty much that whole day/night....all the reaction videos, the universal jubilation of Bills fans...the fact that we no longer see the name "Buffalo Bills" listed in the "longest playoff drought" graphic. In every way, shape, and form...it was worth it.

Without a moment's hesitation, yes.

McDermott needs very specific things from his cornerbacks. Ideally, they should be long, strong, have a big wingspan, good "zone eyes", and be willing tacklers. Whether you agree or disagree, McDermott and co seem to have concluded that Darby didn't fit the mold, so they moved on and got what they could in return. Me personally? I'm fine with the trade. Getting a 3rd back for a guy of Darby's caliber -- when players like JPP and Marcus Peters and Robert Quinn got traded for less -- seems like great value.

Accomplishing in their first season (playoff berth) what the previous 17 years worth of coaches and GMs couldn't wasn't enough for you, eh? How about completely clearing out a bloated salary cap situation such that the Bills are now flush with draft picks and have $100million in cap space for 2019. Still not doing it? Just out of curiosity...what WILL convince you?

You're totally right, actually. What I SHOULD have said is that he's not the cookie cutter prototype for a successful DT. It's why he lasted until the 5th round. Strange build, short arms, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Kyle at all. As I said, he's my favorite Buffalo Bill of all time. Him running in a touchdown in the Dolphins game actually caused me to get choked up for a minute. Told everyone I was having allergy issues.

a BAD defensive lineman? REALLY?! I suppose you watched him play a bunch before you came to this conclusion? Also...I hate to tell you this, but if you honestly thought the Bills could fill all of the roster holes you mentioned in one free agency period, then you're being unrealistic. Let's see what the draft and UDFA period bring. By the way, They're spending about HALF on Star what they were spending on Dareus, and they have an extra 5th round pick and a player with a better attitude to show for it.

I don't care if he ever says one worthwhile word again, so long as he keeps occupying double team and pushing the pocket.

Personally, I don't think they gave him $7million/year to be a backup, but we shall see.

A fireable offense?! For slightly overpaying a defensive tackle on a team that has $100 million in cap space in 2019? Well...I'm sure you not overreacting in the least. Nope. The people agains this deal -- when a double-team occupying DT is crucial to the success of McDermott's defense and the Bills had NO ONE that could do that, and when the salary cap goes up every single year, and when the Bills have $100 million in cap space in 2019 -- is cracking me up. You've gotta spend the money SOMEWHERE. Good golly miss Molly, Bills fans are hard to please sometimes.

I'm really excited to watch this guy suit up for the Bills. He's undoubtedly gonna be a big fan favorite in Buffalo. I also happen to think his best years are ahead of him and he might become our most productive pass rusher next season -- especially with Star Lotulelei eating up double teams!