Logic

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". - Mark Twain Look man, you've made your point of view perfectly clear. You think left tackle is an unimportant position and the Browns would've been better off drafting Marshawn Lynch or Lawrence freaking Timmons, because they sure didn't do much winning with First Ballot Hall of Famer Joe Thomas on the roster! We can agree to disagree, it's fine. You think that left tackle is not an "impact position". I vehemently disagree, and would venture to guess that 90% of the humans who watch and understand football would agree with me. It's fine. Let's move on.

Oh FFS. Fine. You win. Wide receiver and running back and tight end are clearly more important to team success than a quality left tackle. What was I thinking? ?

That argument is asinine. How many titles did Randy Moss win? How many titles did Barry Sanders win? How many titles did Tony Gonzalez win? If the argument is for an "impact player" instead of a lineman, which is how this conversation started, I'll ask again: What position other than QB or edge rusher has as big an impact on a football team?

This is the worst and most nonsensical argument ever. A Hall of Fame OT doesn't affect the franchise as much as other positions? Really? Other than QB and Edge, WHAT other positions affect a team's fortunes as much as LT?! I'll wait here.

That's fair. The way I look at it, Jonah Williams was the best offensive tackle in the SEC last year and one of the best in all of college football. That's got to count for something. He's playing against future NFL edge rushers and is operating a scheme at 'Bama that features a lot of stuff he'll be seeing on Sundays. And he DOMINATED. If the idea is that he can't be a tackle in the NFL just because his arms are 2 inches too short, and we're going to completely disregard his proven production at the college level, well...we'll see, I guess. I'm not sure I buy that Williams is strictly a guard in the NFL. I DO believe, however, that if he flames out at tackle, he'll still make an above average guard. I'm not saying Quenten Nelson level, but I'll think he'll be darn good inside if that's where he ends up. And offensive tackle is one of the only positions in the draft where if the guy you pick doesn't work out, he has a potential fall-back position that keeps the pick from being a waste. If DK Metcalf or Ed Oliver bust at WR or DT, respectively, for instance, there's no backup position for them.

1.) Offensive Tackle is either the second or third most important position in Football. QB is #1, obviously, but after that come Edge Rushers and Offensive Tackles. Your attempt to minimize the importance of a high quality left tackle is off base, in my opinion. 2.) We can play this game both ways. How many championships did dangerous offensive weapon and Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez win his team over the years? How many championships did the Lions win with Calvin Johnson or with Barry Sanders? You can't use the lack of team success during a great player's tenure as evidence that that player isn't worth having or seeking out in the draft. 3.) Do you really think the Browns would have won more games during those years if they had chosen Adrian Peterson over Joe Thomas? If you want an "impact player" at 9, it's hard to overstate the influence that a franchise left tackle can have on a quarterback's success and on an offense as a whole. It's also hard to overstate the importance of the left tackle position in general. If you told me I could have either Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson in their prime on the Bills for the next decade, I know who I'd pick 10 times out of 10.

Wow. I'm not sure where to even start with that , so I'll just say that I politely and completely disagree.

Who said anything about cutting Star? Star plays the 0-technique position. Wilkins would start alongside him at the 3-technique position. We are one quality defensive tackle short of a full rotation at this point, and McDermott loves his d-line rotation.

Did you just mention Joe Thomas in sentence one and then say "pass for an impact player" in sentence two? Joe Thomas is a surefire Hall of Famer. I think you just made the OPPOSITE of your point.

When I was trying to trade up, it WAS with Dillard in mind. As I thought about my choice at pick 20, though, I decided I think Risner's a better fit for the Packers any way. Here's why: The Packers' LT spot is pretty locked in with David Bakhtiari. He's one of the best in the game and is only 27 years old. Dillard's projected best spot in the NFL is at LT. Many question whether he has the toughness/power to play right tackle, and I'm inclined to agree. With this being the case, and with the potential that Risner could more suitably help at RT or RG or even C, I now feel he'd ultimately make more sense for Green Bay. You were right to take Dillard for the Vikings, though. They NEED a LT, which is what Dillard appears to be. I'd say both our teams wound up with good fits in the end.

That's okay, I feel a lot better when I look at some of the QUARTERBACKS they get to play in 2019! Sam Darnold (x2) Eli Manning Andy Dalton Marcus Mariota Ryan Fitzpatrick (x2) Case Keenum Joe Flacco Lamar Jackson Sweeeeeeeet!

Because the Chiefs are switching to a 4-3 this offseason.

I am in the camp that thinks taking a defensive lineman in the 1st round is the most sensible approach. With that being said, your condescension, hostility, and belittling toward anyone who DARES disagree with you is getting old. You're a fan on an internet message board. Same as the rest of us. Yet you talk like you're the smartest guy in the room. Your schtick has worn out its welcome. Your repetitive posts have grown stale. Worst of all, you do a disservice to the legendary name of Jim Cornette!

Are you super excited about losing a bunch of games by a score of 13-6 because we keep our defense elite but fail to upgrade our offense in a meaningful way and therefore can't score points? Also, have you ever looked up the word "repetitive" in the dictionary?

For all those asking if Clark is a big upgrade over Ford, I believe that he probably is. But more importantly, the Chiefs are switching to a 4-3 defense, so Clark is a better fit. Dee Ford is more of a 3-4 guy. *Note: Yes, I'm aware teams mostly play nickel these days.

I'd say no.

That trade makes sense for the Chiefs. They're only really giving up the 29th pick this year and a probable late 2nd next year. They can also reasonably feel like they're an impact pass rusher away from another Super Bowl run. This move would NOT have made sense for the Bills. The 9th pick is too high to give up for a team that is where the Bills are in their building process, and the Bills should NOT reasonably feel like they're one player away from a Super Bowl run.

In deciding what to do with the 20th pick in the 1st round, I consulted numerous mock drafts and articles about the Packers and their top needs. A consistent theme emerged: They need offensive line help. Just about everyone seems to agree. There are other needs, sure, but the Packers need to make sure they can keep Aaron Rodgers upright and healthy if they want to contend for a Lombardi. Not only that, but new head coach Matt LaFleur feels that too much of the Packers' offensive production in the passing game in recent years has come from improvisatory plays from Rodgers after he is forced to leave the pocket due to shoddy protection. In an effort to keep the pocket clean for Rodgers so that he can run LaFleur's offense the way it is intended to be run, the Packers MUST ensure they improve the protection in front of #12. With that said: With the 20th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select OL Dalton Risner, Kansas State. The Packers had Dalton Risner ranked as the 22nd best player on their big board, so the value matches up nicely with the need here. In Risner, the Packers see a young version of Bryan Bulaga. Like Bulaga, Risner is projected to move to an interior position in the NFL. Like Bulaga, the Packers believe he may, in fact, be able to play tackle. Recent Packer free agent acquisition Billy Turner has also played both right guard and right tackle in the NFL. The Packers plan to let Turner and Risner compete with Bulaga at right tackle, knowing that both players can also kick inside to guard should the need arise. Whether Risner ultimately lines up at tackle or guard for the Packers, they can be certain of one thing: He will upgrade the toughness, leadership, versatility, and production of their offensive line. @Alphadawg7 and his Seattle Seahawks are now on the clock.

I think we should move the pick time limit to 2 hours instead of 4, starting in the next round. No way the draft gets done before the ACTUAL draft otherwise.

The only problem is: How high will Oliver go? Recent rumors indicate that the Jets are interested at #3. Even if that's just a smokescreen to get someone to trade up, you have to think they're not going to let the division rival Bills be the trade partner. And even if they were, are people prepared to see the Bills part with, say, our 1st and 2nd this year AND our 1st next year? That's the type of ammo we'd need to get that high. I'm not saying I would or wouldn't do it, only that that's a lot of ammo to part with for one player.

Agreed. In my mind -- and I could be way off -- if Oliver or Quinnen isn't there, they look to move down. Since I don't expect either guy to be there, I expect a trade down.

I'm guessing the Texans would be coming up for a premiere OT. The Panthers for an edge guy. I'd be willing to bet that when it's all said and done, the Bills will trade down with either the Texans or Panthers. Doesn't feel like the Bills will be picking at 9. Man. 23 and Clowney for 9 would be awesome. I'd even throw in a 4th rounder or something.

No thanks. That's a steep overpay on my part by several hundred points of value. I'm not desperate to trade up. Figured I'd just throw something out there since you said you'd "consider anything at this point".

I'll give you my 20th pick, 4th rounder and 7th rounder for your pick.