Logic

The only concerning thing with Barkley is that Gettleman literally said "if you take a player there, you have to believe he's a Hall of Famer". Well...none of us know how Barkley will turn out, but he has the college production, blue chip pedigree, and special traits to be in the discussion. That's the only real obstacle. Gettleman deciding he can't pass on Saquon Barkley.

I'm with ya on the trade up to the #2 spot, Meanie. It's almost too perfect: Team with two 1sts and two 2nds and a huge QB need is helmed by two guys who -- until last season -- worked closely with the GM owning the 2nd overall pick and who needs more draft picks (he only has five currently). Heck, even the Colts (helmed by former Buffalo Bill Frank Reich) at 3 and the Browns at 4 (who likely have already taken a QB at spot #1) are logical trade partners. It's the first full offseason of this new GM/coach pairing, they have the picks, they have the need, it's a great QB draft, there are dance partners at the top. The stars are aligned. It's going to happen.

I read this thread title quickly as "DAMON HARRISON FAT???", and I was like......yep. He sure is.

I'm pretty sure I was AT the worst game ever played, featuring the Bills: Browns 6, Bills 3. It wasn't a defensive slugfest for the ages. It was just two horrifically, comically inept offenses farting all over themselves for 3 hours. Derek Anderson went 2 of 17 for 23 yards, 0 TDs, and 1 INT and the Browns WON THE GAME. ESPN, after the game, just showed the best punts of the day, because those were the only highlights. Everyone on the set laughed and laughed. I was at that game. What a day. God, the drought sucked. I heart Andy Dalton.

If Foles is only being brought in to play while a high draft pick learns, then I'm fine with it. But I have a really hard time believing that they'd bring in Foles AND draft a QB high, and I'd rather they draft one. Oh, and I'm fine with Taylor starting for one more season it the rookie needs to sit, but he may not need to sit! As for the other question as to who I'd take and how much I'd give up? I like Mayfield most, but would be happy with Rosen or Darnold, too. I'd give up whatever it took. This year's 1st round picks, next year's 1st round pick, a late round pick and Glenn? Whatever it took. I believe this is a generational QB draft, the Bills happen to have a lot of early round draft capital and a huge QB need, and it's the first full year of a new GM/coach tandem. The time is right. The Bills should quit putting it off and swing for the fences.

I just don't have any interest at all. I've seen the "mediocre veteran" movie too many times already. Drew Bledsoe, Rob Johnson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Kelly Holcomb, Kevin Kolb, Tyrod Taylor. Enough already. I don't want to watch the Bills pin their hopes on yet another castoff from some other team. I want the Bills to go into what looks to be a great draft for rookie QBs, find the one they like, and do what they need to do to get him. Yes, I am aware that said player could bust. The risk is worth it to me. I'd rather try for greatness and possibly fail than settle for mediocrity. And Super Bowl MVP or not, I don't personally see Nick Foles being a perennial playoff contender or top 10 quarterback for the next decade. I also can't think of a single QB who started and won Super Bowls for more than one team. No interest, I tell ya. Find a kid and draft him. Fire your shot and try to be great.

I don't think Curry's any better than Shaq Lawson. Aside from one 9-sack outlier season, he usually hovers around 3.5 sacks a year. We already have that guy on the roster.

Fair enough. I think they're planning for Life After Clay. His contract is an albatross and his knee annually seems to limit his practice and sometimes game day availability. I don't EXPECT an early round TE, but the Bills have interviewed Goedert, and he's a McDermott type player. I'd still list it as a "surprise that wouldn't surprise me" at this point.

Send them next year's 5th (with a condition that it can become a 4th if certain benchmarks are met). They'll take it.

Bills won't be players for him. But keep an eye on Dallas Goedert as a surprise early round pick for Buffalo in the draft.

That's fair. For my wrestling fix (since I can't really sit through modern WWE), I subscribe to the WWE Network and started a chronological re-watch of both WCW and WWF, starting in 1987 and going show for show through the years. It's been GREAT fun. For modern stuff, I watch NXT, ROH, or Japanese matches that catch my interest, with the occasional WWE highlight (Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania) thrown in. The $9.99 per month for the Network is a great buy, since I get thousands of hours of archive footage AND access to every PPV the WWE puts on. But overall, I agree with you. It's basically unwatchable these days. A real shame, since the current roster (Nakamura, Zayn, Owens, Styles, etc) is as good as it's been in many, many years.

Nah. The "stop with the dumb skits, just wrestle!" crowd has already moved on to NXT, ROH, NJPW, etc. If they're still watching WWE by now, I doubt they're going anywhere.

Matthews is a quality slot option. Unfortunately, that's also what Zay Jones (with any luck) will become. What the Bills need as an outside receiver opposite Benjamin who can take the top off a defense. That's not Matthews. Hopefully, the Bills pursue Allen Robinson or a speedy mid round pick.

Winner winner, chicken dinner. McCoy/Ivory is the backfield for this season and maybe even next (depending on continued production from both). During this time, the Bills will build up other positions of more immediate need. Once other positional groups like front seven, offensive line, WR, etc have been built up sufficiently and as McCoy/Ivory age out, the Bills will draft a few young bucks at the position. We all may want youth added at RB, but you only have so many draft picks, you need to sign 34 more players to get to 90, and Rome wasn't built in a day. Oh, and we have some guy named Shady still producing big numbers. Build up the team, let the offense lean on the veteran running backs while rookie QB gets up to speed, and draft RB youth in a year or 2. Simple.

Moot point. He'll be a Viking. But just for fun, the Broncos or Browns would've been a big help, because that would have put the 4th or 5th pick up for auction.

Or maybe they DO have a feel for the draft, and are of the opinion that other positions offer more value?

A few things. 1.) I have a feeling the Bills will be packaging some draft capital to move up. This means that whatever picks they DO have left need to be used to address areas of greater need than RB2. The Ivory signing means the pressure is off to get an RB2 level running back in the draft. They can grab a late round or UDFA back now. 2.) I believe the Bills plan to lean heavily on the run game this year in order to take pressure off what will likely be a rookie QB under center. Having two vets in Shady and Ivory who know how to block and catch passes and be productive in the run game will be a boon to the development of whichever QB they select. 3.) I fully expect a youth movement at HB NEXT off season, once the more immediate needs of this offseason (OG, LB, DT, QB, etc) have already been filled. 4.) The fact that two veteran, former Pro Bowl free agents both visited the Bills first this offseason, then visited other teams, but wound up circling back and signing with the Bills, bodes well for the "sales job" this staff is able to do on free agents. A good sign that the "culture" and "process" stuff has some bones to it. 5.) Beane is pretty clearly playing the comp pick game. For all of the above reasons, a solid move.

I have been pretty darned excited for offseasons before. But I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I've never been as excited as I am for THIS offseason. Part of it is that I feel the Bills plan to go all-in on a QB once and for all, and nothing in football matters as much as having a quarterback. We haven't had one since 1996, and the mere thought that we will try everything within our power to acquire one this offseason is, by itself, enough reason for excitement. Add in the fact that this is a year with so many 1st round caliber QBs AND so many interesting free agent options, and you have a recipe for high hopes. The other part of it is that I truly feel like we have the right people making the decisions. In a way, this feels like the most important crossroads this team has faced in its history. New owner, new GM, new head coach, new staff top to bottom, a bevy of draft picks, a stars-are-aligning convergence of QB need with QB availability....it feels like this offseason will not only make or break this current regime, but will decide whether the Bills will be contenders or pretenders for the next decade. So yeah, I'm excited.

It's amazing to me that IncarceratedBob is even KIND OF still a thing. He is so clearly, obviously, without-a-shadow-of-a-doubt a total fraud. It's not even a question.

That's pretty good, actually. Never saw this pic before

At least you admit THAT! If Nunberg's statement is "proof to democrats" (even though we both just sat here and said he was a looney tune), then his statement is automatically "FAKE NEWS!" to the Pro-Trump crowd. That side is pretty good at sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"

So you're reading people's minds now? And putting words in their mouths? Cool.

Has anyone else read the transcript of or watched these Nunberg interviews? Regardless of which side of the fence you are on with regard to the Mueller investigation, this guy is really a piece of work. These interviews are, um....really something. His lawyers must be apoplectic right now.

Ex-Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg just said “Carter Page was colluding with the Russians.” Jake Tapper stopped to make sure he heard Nunberg clearly and Nunberg repeated “Yes, I believe Carter Page was colluding with the Russians.”