Logic

Isn't Lawrence more of a space eater than a penetrator? Football sounds so sexual sometimes...

@Ice bowl 67 what did you think of the Ty Dunne article about McCarthy/Rodgers? Bombshell stuff!

I see a ton of mocks that have the Eagles taking a safety. With the Eagles playing a Wide 9 and with Christian Wilkins off the board, I don't think the value is there for DT. I say they either go Ferrell at Edge or Adderley at Safety.

Edit: On second thought, I think the top safety on their board makes sense. Either Chauncey Gardner-Johnson or Nasir Adderley. Not sure if we should have a mini vote, or if someone else wants to take it, or what...DB or Jacobs or Edge (Clelin Ferrell?)

The Bills should draft Mitch Wishnowsky in the 7th round or add him as a UDFA. He would beat out Bojorquez and Carter, methinks. Boomer of a leg.

Good pick. Good fit for what Seattle does on defense.

I wouldn't be so sure. Have you SEEN their WR depth chart? It isn't pretty.

If there is a 3rd round level high motor white defensive end with limited athleticism, the Bills MUST have him. They must. It is known.

Man. Getting Quinnen Williams and DK Metcalf in the first round would be AWESOME for the Giants. Wow. I'd trade my pinky toe for the Bills to get those two guys in round 1.

Yesssss. On "Moving the Chains" on Sirius XM, Pat Kirwan's rule (because he always got so many fans saying "Trade down"!), is that if that's the route you take in your mock, you have to explain WHY the other team traded UP and who THEY'RE taking, and why the need for that team is so great that they're willing to move up. I like that rule.

I'll make this short and sweet, since it wasn't originally my pick and since this one's a no-brainer to me. Seeing the crying need for improvement along the edges, and seeing who is left... With the 16th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft (and the permission of BuffaloHokie13, who was picking for another dude, but all of them are in high level business meetings), the Carolina Panthers select Brian Burns, Edge Rusher, Florida State. Panthers GM Marty Hurney (possessed by the spirit of message board poster Logic) can't believe his luck here that Burns is available. The Panthers stooge who runs the card up to the podium moves so fast that he nearly trips over his own feet. With Burns' length, athleticism, and explosion, Carolina feels like it's drafting a proper heir apparent to Julius Peppers. @BuffaloHokie13 is up, when he's done with his high level business meeting.

Sweet, thanks. I'll take five minutes and review needs and available players and then make the pick.

The good news is that at pick 9, I doubt he'll be the Bills' problem to worry about!

If BuffaloHokie13 doesn't materialize in short order, I'm happy to make a Panthers pick

I mean...if a guy you went to school with reckons it to be true, the Bills should be on the phone right away.

I'm hoping Wilkins falls to the Chargers, for whom I'm picking, a bit later in the draft. The Chargers are weird because they could go about five different directions with the pick, including drafting an heir apparent for Philip Rivers. Picks seem to be moving faster today. Looking forward to my turn!

Not a fan. The only pick I like is the punter in the 7th.

Indeed. But it's fun when a wrench gets thrown into the works like this, because that's what often happens during the draft! I mean, how often to the top 10 picks all go exactly how we think they will? Almost never! This surprise scenario made me realize that in a situation where Ed Oliver and Quinnen Williams are both off the board when the Bills pick (as are Bosa, Allen, and Gary)...I'd pick Hockenson over, say Montez Sweat. I've been so locked in on Oliver lately that I haven't considered what I would do if he were gone and if I couldn't trade back. Turns out the answer is Hockenson.

I second this. Would love some explanation as to the thought process that went into the pick, or to hear what other guys you considered, or whatever.

Thanks for the post. I would be thrilled if the Bills selected Hockenson, but I doubt they will. Most Bills fans, including myself, think it's going to be a DT or Edge rusher. Beane and McDermott's draft histories, as well as those of other men in the draft room, seem to indicate a defensive lineman. An OFFENSIVE lineman might have been the pick at 9, but with the Bills signing 6 of them in free agency, the need is lessened to the point where the Bills needn't reach. Put simply: the 3T position is critical to the success of McDermott's defense, and there is a glaring hole at that position after Kyle Williams' retirement. At the same time, the Bills were bottom 6 in sacks last season defensively, and the contracts of Jerry Hughes and Shaq Lawson are up after this season, so they direly need to re-stock the edges. For these reasons, DT or Edge seem to be the likely picks. It will not shock me if the Bills take Hockenson, but I sincerely doubt they will. I think Irv Smith in round 2 is a lot more likely.

Here's the really interesting thing: Think of how much Allen benefitted from that six weeks. It was the first time since his last game at Wyoming that he just got to concentrate on learning and getting better. Prior to that, it was combine preparation, pro day preparation, getting drafted, moving to a new town and meeting new teammates, engaging in a three-way battle for starting QB in which he received mainly third string reps in camp, and then being thrust into the lineup before he was expecting it and learning on the fly with very little preparation. Once he FINALLY got to just sit down and learn and watch and process, his game improved leaps and bounds. Seeing how much he was able to improve in six weeks of dedicated learning and observing, I can't help but be really excited for his development this offseason. He's settled in Orchard Park, is secure in his starting spot, is already clearly comfortable demonstrating leadership, is going into his second year under Daboll, and will be getting ALL the starters reps in training camp. That is absolutely HUGE! It can't be overstated how beneficial to his game it will be to not have all the ancillary stuff to worry about, to not have to be a rookie learning on the fly, to have all the live game reps he does under his belt. And none of this even MENTIONS the improved supporting cast around him! I mean...could the Bills actually have a RUNNING game against next season? Could Allen be kept upright and have open targets to throw to? The mind races at the possibilities. Exciting time to be a Bills fan.

Right. I get that. But what I'm asking is what if a corner or safety or other "non-need" position is the clear cut best player left on THEIR BOARD SPECIFICALLY? Do they take said player, or do they not? Several folks have replied mentioning a tiered grading system, the stacking of players with similar grades based on positional value and need, etc...So, going with that, let's suppose in my original scenario that the Bills have all the offensive players ("need" players) I listed in tier 2 of their board. The corner or safety is in tier 1. They've gotta take the corner or safety, right? Are you okay with it if they do? That's what this thread is about.

Thanks for pointing that out. Fixed it!

This is a great example, too, because of how the next few years played out. At the time that Williams was selected, he was viewed as a luxury pick. What happened in the years to come? Richardson turned into a turd and didn't stick around. Wilkerson couldn't reach a long term deal with the Jets. Only Williams remains on their roster. This is the perfect example of the logic of picking BPA, and how it can work out very well for the team.

I like this answer. Specifically, to not draft what the staff views as a premium cornerback just because they have, what...EJ Gaines and Kevin Johnson on the roster? Or undrafted (but awesome) Levi Wallace? You're going to let THOSE guys keep you from drafting a premium player at a premium position?! On the other hand...