oldmanfan

Would you just stop with your nonsense. This post is completely absurd. The league has a committee that evaluates and suggests HC candidates and McD was prominent on that list. He was a prime HC candidate. As was Beane for a GM job. The idea that neither would have even been considered if it weren't for Brandon is total crap.

This stuff has no basis in fact and needs to stop.

Ralph Wilson will be considered one of the most important persons in the history of Buffalo and WNY. And for good reason.

I think they should have brought in a guy when McCarron got traded. Looking at the list you posted, it would not have mattered which one. They are all pretty much the same guy.

Experienced GMs have one thing in common. They're not GMs anymore. Because they got fired.

Let's look back objectively instead of being in reactionary mode. First, no one knows if Beane approached the Jets or not. So if we don't know, it seems a little dumb to just assume that he wasn't. That's just showing bias against him for no actual reason. I think the more plausible thing is that the Jets would not want to potentially strengthen a division rival that made the playoffs ahead of them the year before. Now, they could have signed Bridgewater when he hit the market in March, but recall that many teams were concerned about his injury history. Hindsight being 20:20 they probably should have, but that's why hindsight isn't particularly helpful. The other factor that comes into play is the cap dollars. Like it or not, and one can make a legitimate argument for and against, they wanted to get out of the cap situation they were in. And they knew, or at least it seems they knew, they were going after their long term QB in the draft. Which they wound up doing of course. So they were not going to pay millions for a one year rental of a guy like a Taylor or a Bradford or even a Keenum. Again, you can argue that, but I'm trying to go back and look objectively at their moves. So they were in the market for an affordable veteran QB that could play until they felt Allen, or whomever they drafted, was ready. That turned out to be McCarron. Fast forward to training camp. Peterman came out and did really well. And again, for maybe the tenth time since yesterday, I understand it was preseason, but the kid looked good and beat out McCarron. I don' think anyone who watched objectively this past summer can argue McCarron was better than Peterman. So from what I've read McCarron didn't want to stay as a backup. So they traded him. Now here is where I think they messed up. At that point they should have increased their contract offer to Anderson, or another similar guy. Or maybe traded for another backup, although my opinion is that most backups are of pretty similar skill sets so it wouldn't ultimately matter much which one you got. That would have given them a veteran who's been around the block, as a guy who could mentor not just Allen but Peterman. Do I think a vet like that would have started right away week 1? No, because Peterman earned his shot in pre-season. And promptly threw up all over himself. At that point if they had made a stronger move to get say an Anderson, he starts week 2 then, Allen can still sit and learn, and Peterman goes to the third spot or gets released. But they didn't, and Allen gets thrown into the fire. I am 50:50 on whether Allen develops more by playing or sitting, but either way having that vet would have given the team the option either way. So they deserve to be criticized. I think all but maybe one or two folks around here would agree. But playing what ifs all the time assuming we know what happened or should have happened behind the scenes isn't really useful, because we don't have that knowledge. All that said, my gut is they win Sunday. I think the D matches up very well against Luck, I think we can run on them, and I think Anderson just needs to play within himself and not lose the game, as Peterman did last week with that horrible throw.

He signed with the Jets as a FA in March 2018, and was traded to the Saints in August. You have your timing wrong.

I think he can see it. I think he also sees a guy who practices well and played really well in pre-season, and for whatever reason cannot translate that into the regular season games. He has a decision to make this week: a guy in Peterman who basically lost the game for them last week, and a vet in Anderson who odes not know the complete playbook yet. I expect it will be Anderson. And part of that will be his team leadership and him talking about it. I'm going to the game since I live in the Indy area. You'll be able to hear me screaming Noooooo!!!!!!! over everyone else on TV if Peterman runs out for the first series.

They could have signed his as an FA, but a lot of teams were gun shy with his injury. Then he played in preseason and showed he would hold up. But to say we could have had him for a 3rd round pick assumes the Jets would have traded him to a division rival. I don't think that assumption can be made.

Then you don't know what's being said about Peterman. My guess personally is that McD meets with his leadership council and they are likely telling him that the players don't have faith in Peterman, but that's just a guess. Like yours.

Actually I am not one of those guys about the flag, actually I don't watch Fox News, and you are actually being ridiculous when you say that McDermott is starting Peterman because of some religious reason. McDermott has been very clear; he wants guys that care about the game of football and put their time and effort into making themselves the best they can be at football. I will be very surprised if Peterman starts Sunday. How often are you in the locker room?

Anderson. I think McD will consult with his team leadership council and realize the team can't get behind Peterman.

From what I've read Moore just isn't interested in playing anymore. I have said before they can be justifiably criticized for not getting a vet in way earlier, if nothing else but to mentor two young QBs. But ultimately this comes down to two things: 1. Peterman throwing up in regular season games vs. how he looks in practice and pre-season 2. When your starting QB goes down in the NFL, you're many more times than not hosed. I would hope they start Anderson Sunday and for however many games till Allen is back. With our D and run game a guy like Anderson may be able to steal a few games. The only other thing would be to bring a guy like Landry Jones on, but they did have him in for a look and apparently he didn't impress.

I think your take on the religion thing is absolute nonsense. And I'm a religious guy myself. McDermott wants guys who are serious about football.

You are just another person looking to bash Allen, you're just using Beathard to do it. Allen is making progress. Different teams, different circumstances. Apples and oranges.

Someone else brought him up, and back in March when he hit free agency they could have done that. Recall at the time most teams were really scared about his knee. But in retrospect that would have been a good move. Once he signed with the Jets, I don't think there was any way they were making an in division trade.

I teach anatomy, so I won't comment on the way they diagnose things with the stress test, etc. But I can comment on the general function of ligaments, and joints and the muscles that surround them. The UCL is similar to the MCL of the knee. They provide stability to the medial aspect of the joint. Muscles passing across the medial aspect of the joint, if strengthened, also can help provide joint stability. So if those are built up they can attenuate the loss of ligament function.

He has been in the league for over a year, has played more, has been watching a lot more film, learning. That's a lot more than a rookie in the league for 5 games. I don't have anything against Beathard, seem like a good backup guy. But to use him to bash a rookie like Allen is ridiculous. You want to see what a year watching and learning does? Look at Mahomes.

If Anderson is running the offense well, and we win a game or two, keep him out there and let Allen watch and absorb things. If not, then Allen goes back in as soon as he's ready and learns by playing and by having Anderson advise him. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

They were not going to spend millions on a backup QB because they want to clear cap space. It's that simple. What this really comes down to now is they should have gotten a veteran guy in when they traded McCarron. That's a legitimate criticism. They could have sweetened the offer to Anderson, could have maybe traded for a guy with the pick they got back for McCarron. That would have gotten whomever a few more weeks to learn the offense. But, again, Peterman played great in pre-season and , yes, everyone wants to talk about how the pre-season doesn't count, etc. But he earned a shot. And for whatever reason the kid throws up all over himself in regular season games. So they go to Allen, which I think everyone knew was coming and, again, one can argue it would have been better to have him sit, etc. We tend as fans to see things in a vacuum. For example, some say we should have kept Taylor and drafted a kid. The money for a backup aside, maybe Taylor had no interest in staying under those circumstances. We say they should have kept McCarron. We'll somewhere on this board it was reported yesterday McCarron wanted out if he wasn't the starter. How exactly does it help keeping a guy that doesn't want to be here? So we'll have a couple weeks with I presume Anderson as starter. I cannot imagine they'll start Peterman again. With the D playing the way it is, we have a good shot Sunday, and will lose the NE. Then Allen is back and we go forward.

No I don't see your point. Beathard has been around the league a lot more with better players around him. Allen is just getting started.

According toTasker they were trying to get Anderson in since the summer. Should have sweetened the deal enough to get him in. Other guys like Moore are done with football

Would have cost them like 15 million. For a guy that they knew wasn't the answer. That's a lot of money for a backup QB. And if you haven't noticed Star is doing a pretty good job. They should have sweetened the deal enough to get Anderson in when they traded McCarron.

I think concern is certainly warranted. Unjustified panic is not

They are the same. Sprained ligaments have tearing of fibers.