oldmanfan

We also add guys in free agency. I recall last year people laughed when Hollins was added, and now many are very sad he left after one year. We cheered for Cooper but I don’t think he added what we thought he would. Some now assume Palmer will stink but will that tune be different in a year? Same with Coleman. Drafting a WR every year I guess is fine, but to me you use a draft to add strength where you need it, and we needed much re strength with DBs and the D line interior. So they addressed that. Doesn’t mean I think Beane is absolutely done at WR, but if he wants to keep the offense humming I hope he’s working on the Cook deal now.

And Brady helped them. The reality is we have a great QB, so I don’t get hypotheticals ignoring that. If we had drafted the kid we picked in the 7th in the 4th I wonder if the kerfluffle would still be going on.

But we don’t have that. We have the MVP who helps make guys better. Like Brady did for years.

If Brady wanted a guy you can put outside and run fast down the field, he has one in Hamler. Had one in Isabella. The fact he never used them says something to me about what he values. You want speed, separation, good hands, etc you’re talking more about first round type talent.

The starters are Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, and Samuel. The 5th guy ain’t playing much unless he steps up and proves value like Hollins did last year and if he contributes on special teams. I know they have said they need speed, and that they had several guys in for talks that were the smaller speed type guys. But they also knew they needed more DBs (remember, Taron ain’t getting any younger) so when it came to their picks on day 3 they saw more value there.

We have fast guys on the practice squad. The assumption is a day 3 guy this year would be better. Maybe yes, maybe no.

But people here are complaining we didn’t get that on day 3 of the draft. The kind of guy you’re describing is in the top 10 of day 1, isn’t he? I am sure Beane looks at all such scenarios.

Film of games he played in, yes. Or do you think I watched films he didn’t play in?

My opinion is he’s an upgrade over Cooper. I acknowledge I could be wrong. Perhaps you should do the same with your opinions. He needs to step up. Beane has challenged him to do so.

Do you take into account he was playing injured most of last year?

Hancock at safety. And one of the guys they drafted should be the replacement for an aging Taron in a couple years.

I think it is much more likely he gets better vs. worse. Yes, I watched some film. No, that not make me an expert in any way, shape or form. Just like you, the difference being I accept that.

How many truly explosive weapons are there in the league? I am sure Beane is looking. Best thing for the offense now is to get things worked out with Cook. But he is basically what people clamored for on day 3 of the draft. A speedster. And right back at you. I’m not the one pretending to be an expert.

Because it’s a chat room and that’s what we do. Your opinions have no more value than anyone else. How was this draft going to change it?

Film on Palmer when they got him. Look, bottom line is I don’t think your opinions mean squat. And vice versa of course.

You have guys like Hamler who are precisely what guys are moaning about not getting on day 3 this weekend. I have watched some. Palmer upgrades Cooper. What was your solution in this draft? There weren’t these stud WRs you apparently want.

Were we going to get one on day 3 of this draft?

I’m sorry. Do we now no longer think guys can improve after their rookie year? Or that guys with torn Packs and other injuries won’t get better?

What WR could we have drafted in round 5 or 6 that you feel would be an automatic upgrade over guys on the roster currently?

Shavers takes Hollins spot. We’ll miss Hollins more on special teams than anything. Palmer upgrades Cooper. I cannot for the life of me understand all the angst over a WR #5.

The problem is you consistently bash the team.

That’s why they got Palmer in free agency.

Palmer, Coleman, Shakir, and Samuel are your top 4. Shavers is #5 and takes the role Hollins had. They got Palmer because statistically he separates well and gives them a downfield threat. Next.

Oh I see. Only specific rounds count. Thanks for clarifying.

What WR in this draft was going to change that?