oldmanfan

If you look at Palmer and Moore you have to look at their situations. Moore has never had a quality QB throwing to him, and Palmer comes from. Greg Roman offense. I think Brady’s schemes are more receiver friendly.

You are like a dog with a chew toy now. Actors act; what they do on stage or on film is their job. Let it go.

Very, very well stated

Very interesting! The curve ball convinced me to focus on golf when I was younger

Absolutely, let’s be civil. I don’t think our offense is going to be any worse than last season based on the changes made. Only thing on paper now that could negatively affect things is if Cook sits out, but I don’t see that happening. Of course, you can’t predict injuries and such. I am intrigued by the changes on D. I think we’ll be stronger up front, about the same at LB, and the DBs are going to be a battle. Yep, agree on all counts. Can’t wait for camp to start.

If Green Bay can do it Buffalo certainly can. And with the new stadium I bet we have an inside track

I guess I would argue that it’s great to have a great QB. To me the focus now should be on reupping Cook

Agree with your last sentence. You can see my remarks to Finn above. Those said if Beane pulled off some kind of stunning trade for a guy like Jefferson, fine by me. But our offense will be top 10 regardless

I hope you are not deliberately trying to state that I don’t care about winning a Lombardi, because I think you know how ridiculous that would be. I challenge the idea that Beane stood pat. They wanted some more downfield potential in the WR corps. Many complained about separation ability. So they brought Palmer in who ranks high in separation ability, and a speedier guy in Moore. I’m not sure how that downgrades from last year. I would remind you and others of the conversation this time last year. People were laughing about Hollins, but he turned out to be a pretty good addition. We laugh right now but maybe Shavers now fills that role; he certainly can contribute on special teams. Last year folks talked about how Shakir wouldn’t step up, but he did. This year it’s all about Coleman, as if a rookie WR cannot possibly improve his second year. As far as grading our offense last year on the basis of one play (which was a great call by Spags, and even then Kincaid should have caught it), I would refer to Statistics 101. I am using an entire season to base conclusions. You are relying apparently on a sample size of N =1. An N=- doesn’t have meaning.

Oh for God sakes. Just stop with this. You do not define an entire offense by one play in a season. The Bills offense scored the most points in the league last year, and a great defensive call by Spagnolo kept us from going to the dance. By any objective measure the Bills had a great offense last year. I see no reason why it won’t be among the best in the league again this season.

If you do the math I think the difference over 40 yards between a guy that runs a 4.2 vs a 4.4 40 is a little more than a yard.

Again if Beane decides to trade a bunch of guys to get say a Jefferson, fine. But when are folks going to objectively look back at last season and realize that we had a great offense without a star WR? That Brady’s offense uses the running game effectively as well as spreading the passing game around to all the WRs, TEs, and RBs? When is that going to happen? And please don’t come back with the idea that we’d be lost if we didn’t have Josh, because the fact is we DO have Josh. Just like the Chiefs have Mahomes without a stud WR.

Trust me, it’s not anything to be worried about.

You keep insisting on something that is simply not the case. You are making the assumption he is uncomfortable, while I can tell you from personal experience from watching my daughter and a number of her friends and colleagues that is not how that industry works. You have specific coaching and direction for intimacy scenes, it is more clinical than anything , and at the end of the day you go back to your private life. This is what actors do, and their significant others understand that. You misunderstood. It was not tough to watch because I know she was doing her job and acting.

I refer you to my above comment. All what you describe are part of an actor’s job.

My daughter is an actress. I’ve had to watch her play a prostitutes several times and in one play lay down more F bombs in a 5 minute monologue than I do all year. Hailee was doing her job. And I’m sure Josh knows this.

Get him some professional level coaching and training/medical oversight and let’s see if we can unleash the Kraken!

We’ve had some really good writers covering the Bills over the years. Gauguin was one of them. To me Felser will always be the best followed closely by Carrucci, but very much enjoyed Gaughin’s work.

Dumbest trade the Bills ever made.

I love having great debates with my fellow fans here. I do not agree with being exclusively negative just to be negative, and changing topics from that of the original thread to do so. Hence my reaction herein. This thread is about WRs. We lost Cooper and Hollins. We gained Palmer and Moore. I don’t see that as a step back, although I would have loved to have seen Hollis stay. I believe Brady’s offense truly is set up for the Everyman eat’s philosophy, hence the outstanding performance on offense last year. I do think Coleman was having a decent rookie year before his wrist, and he did not do well on his return. He has been challenged by management and I see him improving. I am not one to assume a player cannot improve with more experience in the league. while the thread is about WRs, I think you have to also look at all receivers to evaluate the potential for the passing game. I feel similarly about Kincaid as I do Coleman. I don’t slam a guy for performance dropping off because of injuries. He has been challenged to get tougher and I think he will. I also think we tend to discount the role of our RBs in the passing game. So I am not terribly concerned about the receivers as it stands. And if Beane decides to trade a pick or two to get say a Pickens, I don’t see that as him admitting failure; I see it as him doing his job to try to continually improve his roster.

Really wish we could have kept him.

The title of the thread is about WRs. That’s what is being talked about. Try sticking to the topic instead of hijacking it with your negativism.

As the proud holder of undergraduate and doctoral degrees from UB, I am very proud we have had 3 former University AT Buffalo guys on our roster the past year; always point out they are alumni to all around me when Lewis, Ingram, or Little Joe make a play. But I’m not sure any of them make the roster this year, especially Lewis and Ingram

If I had a dime for every time a coach said that to me…

I am optimistic. That is pretty much the opposite of miserable.