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I'm not really locked on to any QB because I know damn well that I have zero control over who the Bills pick, and because we may not be able to get into a position to pick the QB I want anyway. I am really hoping for Darnold or Rosen. Those are definitely me top 2 choices. I think Rosen has the potential to be the best QB in this draft class. He is the most advanced of any QB in this draft on the field. I love his ability to read defenses and go through his progressions. I think both Darnold and Rosen can fit a wide variety of offense's, and I think both have the skill set to be franchise QBs if developed properly. But I would also be happy with Mayfield. I think he will require a bit more specific type of offense, but I think he also has a good shot at being a successful NFL QB. I love his passion and drive to be great. But I worry that he will focus too much on the people saying negative things about him. It will either drive him to be great or drive him crazy, not sure which... lol. I do worry a bit about both Rosen and Mayfield's ability to avoid injury since both has multiple concussions in college. If you build a strong o line araround Rosen, I think you help limit this risk. Mayfield's play style I think has the possibility to keep putting him at a bit more risk of injury though, and he was adamant even after 2 concussions in 3 weeks that he will Not change his play style. I am less sure on Allen, but he does somewhat intrigue me as I think his ceiling is quite high. I am just skeptical that he can reach it, and his accuracy issues scare me. Rudolph and Jackson I am not as high on, but Rudolph does also intrigue me a bit. He has great stats and has improved every year. But I'm not sure he will ever be a true franchise type QB. I see him more as a Dalton type - where he might end up being good enough to win with, but not really good enough to win it all. I haven't watched much film on Jackson, so I don't have a real strong opinion on him one way or another. Honestly, I am also intrigued by some of the 2nd tier QBs in this draft, like White, Lauletta and even Falk. All will need more development, but could turn out to be mid/late round gems. If we do miss out in the top 3-4 QBs in this draft class, I think an interesting idea would be to maybe grab 2 of the 2nd tier guys, since we have so many picks.

Thank you.

Thanks for all the updates 26! Any word on what the attendence is like yet? Curious to know how many didn't show up.

I could definitely see Rosen sliding a bit, and that would be absolutely perfect for the Bills (assuming that they're willing to draft him, which isn't a guarantee).

Actually, this scenario would be great IMO. If QBs only go 1 and 3, that leaves 2 of the top QBs on the board for us to trade up for. If Denver and Indy are unwilling to trade back out of the top 10, there is no other team from 6 to 10 that needs a QB. That would leave pick 7 as a perfect trade up option, and the Bucs GM has already said he is very interested in a trade down. So so we could get our QB ,u h cheaper than a trade to 2 or 4. We could get Rosen (if he fell past 3), who IMO is the best passer in this draft anyway, and only give up 12 and 53, or 12 and 22 at most. That would be a dream scenario for me! lol Exactly! I'd love it!

Why would Benjamin be the most useless #1 WR in the NFL? I actually think there there is a chance that AJ uses him more than Tyrod. Tyrod was very very unwilling to throw up 50/50 balls for Benjamin. I don't know that AJ has that same issue. With his little playntime in Cinci, he has shown a willingness to throw a pass and let his receiver go and get it.

Very well could be. I just don't get why they had no issue immediately acknowledging Wood retiring due to injury and not incognito. and I thought the whole issue with the Wood bonus money was him not being willing to say he officially retired and file that paperwork with the NFLPA., because if he did the Bills could come after his money. Richie said he was retiring and (supposedly) filed the paperwork with the NFLPA already. I agree there is nothing wrong with the way he handled the situation. I think he has handled it correctly. He hasn't painted himself in any corner. And the Bills doctors very well may not have reached the same conclusion (in fact, I think that is probably the case). My only point is that, when looking at everything that Richie and the Bills have said/done, there seems seems to be more to this whole situation than him retiring strictly due to medical reasons. My guess is that the pay cut is a bigger factor in this whole situation.

Wait, what? You sure have a funny way of showing it.

Didn't Payton say something similar last draft? and then we found out he was after Mahomes...

Totally agree. All im saying though is if he were truly done because his liver and kidneys were shutting down, wouldn't Beane say something like "Richie has to retire due to health issues" or congratulate him on a good career, or at least something more than him basically saying "no comment"? Why leave things open to all this speculation if he truly retired over health issues?

I said this in the other press conference thread, but IMO his answer didn't fit the whole story that Richie retired due to medical reasons. I definitely think there is more going on there.

Well, if it wasn't safe before, I think it's pretty safe to say now (afte Beane's comments) that Richie did not retire over just health issues. All Beane would say is "Richie is on the reserved/retired list and that's all I'll say about it".

Its also worth mentioning that in 2016, after Rosen got hurt UCLA only won a single game the rest of the season (and 4 out of 6 games without him UCLA scored 20 points or less. 3 of those games they scored 10, 10 and 14 points) They went 3-3 with him, with one game going to OT (where UCLA's defense stunk) and 2 more where they barely lost both by 3 points. The losses without him in the lineup were not nearly as close (they lost by 26pts, 22pts, 10pts, 7pts & 6pts).

I don't think he works for the NFLPA anymore (since it says he "worked" in the past tense), but he obviously must be worried about whatever is going on with Richie to reach out to him and his mother like that.

yep, you were right. Nothing to see here. He's on vacation in Qatar.

With how much Beane and McDermott have said they prioritize accuracy from a QB (especially accuracy from the pocket) I'll be somewhat surprised if Allen is the pick. But if he is i will find reasons to get excited, support the kid and hope for the best. His ceiling does appear to be quite high IMO. I am just scared he will never reach that ceiling. He seems like a very boom or bust type prospect.

I really can't see the Pats moving up for a QB. Brady just turned in an MVP season. It's not like they need to move way aup and grab a QB that will be able to start this year or next. Why would they waste all that draft capital (which Belichick LOVES) to move up for a QB like Mayfield or Rosen who will be ready to start year 1 and then just let him waste away on the bench? Plus, they don't know when Brady is retiring. What if he does play for another 5 years? Or even 3-4? Then they basically just wasted that QBs rookie contract and have to worry about re-signing him to big money before he's proven. And they'll be paying that rookie QB top 10 1st round pick money to sit on the bench. It makes WAY more sense that they grab a developmental QB with one of their multiple picks in the 2nd/3rd in a very deep QB draft. Maybe there's an outside chance they take one at 23 or 31 if they really like a guy. But they're not trading way up to the top of the draft for a QB who will sit behind Brady for years.

That might actually be better for the Bills, moving up to 5 (as long as the Browns don't sell the #4 pick to a QB needy team). I think Darnold goes #1. Then if the Giants keep their pick they go with Barkley. I reqlly think the Jets will take Mayfield. I just don't see Rosen in NY with how outspoken he's been on Woody Johnson's neighbor/good friend. The Broncos are the team I am worried about taking Rosen. So if we trade up to 5 with them, it eliminates that possibility, saves the Bills a bunch of draft capital and basically guarantees them one of the top 3 QBs.

Im sure they know better than I do then. Thanks for sharing. Was hoping that that it was due to the supposed rift between Brady and Belichick! lol

I read he was there for day 2 last year (missed the 1st day because he was returning from a family vacation), and I also read that the Patriots usually have almost perfect attendance for the offseason workouts and Brady is the one who leads the charge. Thats what I found when I looked into that tweet out of curiosity if it was unusual.

I wonder if Brady is just skipping the start on Monday, or if he doesn't plan to attend at all? Ill definitely be interested to see if it's the former or the latter. He missed the 1st day of the offseason program last year, so if that's all it is then there's probably nothing to it. But if he skips the whole week, it would be telling IMO because I don't think that's like him. I believe he's usually always there for it.

I see derby dan/Dunkirk don/Chadwick bay Chad created yet another persona... "Derby obviously you know football. Thanks for an interesting post. You are correct" "Derby thanks for the update i am with you". "Very nice post derby" "I heard Dunkirk don is a legend" "Derby dan that is going way back but you are correct. You know football and the Bills" "I agree with you derby, bud was the real deal" plus the 2 above I just quoted. That's what, like 75% of your post history so far at TBD. And that's just within the last 10 minutes.

I think the Browns take Darnold #1. I will be surprised if anything else happens at this point. They are definitely going QB at #1, I have almost zero doubts about that. It could be between Allen and Darnold, but I just don't see it. Allen is such a boom or bust type QB, where as Darnold seems like much more of a sure thing. It's not a coincidence that Darnold is the highest graded QB to enter the draft since Luck. He just seems like a lock to go #1 to me. I hope you are right about the Browns #4 pick being available. I am worried that they have no interest in trading down with all the picks they already have. I could definitely see them being more interested in getting a couple franchise cornerstone type players than another trade down. But if that pick is available and the Bills QB is still on the board, I am all for doing what it takes to move up. I really don't want to give up the 2019 1st because I think the Bills could conceivably take a step back this year and that could be a top 10 pick. I'd much rather throw in another 2nd this year or something along those lines. When you lol at the draft value chart, the Jets overpaid by about 600 points to move up (and not all those picks were in 2018, somtheir value is likely lower). I expect the Bills to have to do the same. So I'm thinking 12, 22, 53 and 65 should do it (or at worst 56 instead of 65). 12, 22, 53, 65 = 2615 points #4 overall = 1800 points So that would be just over an 800 point overpayment. All in 2018 picks.

Crazy stuff... Next we are going to hear that he thinks the world is flat!

Ah ha! Now we know why they traded for Tyrod! (j/k. They are just doing their due dilligence)