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Hopefully that crap is gone the way of the NY Giants. A lot want to blame Mahomes... With KC coaching, what happened to running the ball and playing good defense. Last time I looked Patrick Mahomes didn't give up the 21 points to the Bengals.

Wanna dissect it? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/what-in-the-world-happened-to-patrick-mahomes-after-halftime-examining-chiefs-qbs-play-in-afc-title-game/ "After a nearly flawless first half in which he went 18 of 22 for 220 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions, Mahomes had a dud of epic proportions in the second half and overtime. Mahomes dropped back 24 times after halftime. He completed 8 of 18 passes for 55 yards with two interceptions, four sacks, and no touchdowns." "By naturally clogging throwing lanes with eight in coverage, spying the quarterback, simulating pressure with corner blitzes, and allowing Bell -- and occasionally fellow safety Bates -- to roam free over the middle, Mahomes and the Chiefs were epically perplexed. It was a master class in proper defensive adjustment by coordinator Lou Anarumo, and his players executed fantastically."

I really don't care how it happened... as I'm just ecstatic that it did happen! The Kansas City Chiefs are sitting at home watching the super bowl.

I have no idea why so many Bills fans are after McD's head for the playoff loss at Kansas City. Yes, he is the HC and responsible for what happens on the field. The HC has some control over his assistant coaches and that usually happens before a game and during halftime. The HC of the Buffalo Bills doesn't call the on field plays for the offense or defense. Those are by DC Lesie Frazier and OC Brian Daboll and it's up to the players to execute them. It looked to me like Patrick Mahomes has Buffalo's number on defense as they put up 552 yards of offense and that 13 seconds left FG should have never happened. That's on Buffalo Bills DC Leslie Frazier! I would like to see the "all-22" on exactly what the Bengals did in the second half of that Championship game to hinder, shut down Mahomes. Nevertheless, I'm hoping that Frazier gets a HCing job somewhere... so McD doesn't need to replace him.

The man has already been offered a few HCing jobs on other teams. I highly doubt he would consider a step down to any be teams OC... no matter how much money is offered.

Good lord so true. Leslie Frazier, you need a job as a HC somewhere!

If you talked to Brain Daboll just previous to the 2018 season starting...he was very high on Nathan Peterman. That 2018 Ravens team destroyed the Bills QB's and their OC had no answers. A 47-3 loss and Bills QB's running for their lives...literally. Nathan Peterman 5 of 18 for 24 yards, 2 INT, 3x sacks all in 2 1/2 quarters of that opener. Josh Allen entered the game in the 3rd quarter with 11:22 to go. 5 of 15 for 74 yards, 3x sacks. The Buffalo drives in that game, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Missed FG, INT, Punt, end of half, Downs, INT, Punt, FG, Punt, Punt, end of game. That missed FG in the first half by Buffalo was setup by a fumble forced by Edmunds at the Baltimore 35. From there it went, penalty, incomplete, one yard run, sacked -5 yards. The Buffalo Bills finished that 2018 season 6-10 and mostly because rookie QB Josh Allen emerged as a decent running QB that was able to survive a very bad offensive line. Allen being the leading rusher on that years team that season. If Daboll is left to his own devices and doesn't hire some really good assistants... he will fail quickly in NY. His jobs life expectancy is so dependent on who he hires to support him.

Squib or no squib... after that kickoff the Bills defense didn't cover the Chiefs receivers and instead covered the sidelines...KO, touchback to the 25, 2 pass plays Tyreek Hill 19 yards, Travis Kelce 25 yards, 49 yard FG.

Especially after laughing it up and hugging his assistants after that win in Buffalo. What's da hoodie gonna do now? Just lost his OC to the Raiders and the director of player personnel in Dave Ziegler too.

Beating that Patriots 47-17 in that WC game! Shut those snobby NE fans up! Like Diggs said in Gillette stadium, you, you and you...STFU! Josh Allen 5 TD passes. Allen had more TDs than incompletions!

I've been pretty quiet about saying anything bad about Frazier, not like I was for Daboll. Glad he is now gone. Just kinda hoping some team would hire Frazier too. Think about it though, the entire NFL world watched what we watched with that supposed #1 Buffalo defense giving up 552 yards of offense to KC in that playoff game. Not only that, that last kickoff series in allowing the Chiefs to move the ball into FG range with only 13 seconds. Inexplicably, the Bills defense covered the sideline... but not the Chiefs two best receivers in Hill, Kelce. Giving up 41 points at home to a run first team with scruffy QB 11 of 20 for 106, RB Taylor 32 rushes for 185 yards and 4 TDs. Yea sure, #1 Defense. Something needs to change.

Yep, I agree. All I heard in the media was how Chiefs fans were cherishing those 13 seconds. I think they all thought after beating Buffalo is... all we gotta do is show up and we will win it all... That Cincy team though, week loss to the Bears, week 8 loss to the Jets, Cleveland swept them. But, in the playoffs, beat the Raiders, beat the Titans in Tennessee. I'm reveling in their loss

Pardon me as I simply couldn't watch that game. Great effing new the Chiefs lost

Don't hold your breath... If all Bills fans could see what happened with those 13 seconds...so did the rest of the NFL world. Jacksonville Miami...the only one left that gave him an interview...once. Houston Minnesota Las Vegas Raiders NO Saints

The kid is a unicorn. His arm, accuracy is as good as Mahomes...if not better. And no QB in the NFL can run and throw like him. Mahomes can run, just nowhere near as good as Allen. The Buffalo Bills are so darn lucky to have him! Many fans are concerned that McD will hire a Greg Roman type OC and run the ball more. No way! McD is not a fool as he knows the best player on the entire team is the QB, with that arm of his. Allen literally destroyed that #2 New England Patriots passing defense in that WC game with 5 passing TDs while playing a perfect game. The guy threw more TDs then incompletions!!! Overall performance grade of 100%! This stuff is what Buffalo Bills fans live for! My hope is that the Bills find an OC who wants to keep Allen in the pocket as much as possible while allowing the Bills RBs to do most of the ground work.

I never went anywhere near saying the coaching staff ruined my life... perhaps that's you! I can't watch the NFL network or ESPN simply because I don't want to listen to crap about the Chiefs for the next week. And yes, I'm hoping the Bengals beat them so I don't need to listen to them after next week. KC fans rejoicing in those 13 seconds. How Travis Kelce hated the #13 and now loves it, ETC. Statistically the 2021 Buffalo Bills were the #1 overall defense. Realistically, stats are very misleading. The Bills got that #1 ranking by beating a bunch of backup scrub QBs , backup QBs in Miami, Washington, Houston, NY Jets, Saints. Tell me how good that #1 defense was in giving up 41 points to the Colts, their RB 32 rushes for 185 yards, 4 TDs. Over 500 yards of offense to the Chiefs, 552 to be exact. The simple truth is that the 2021 Buffalo Bills were about to kick off to the Chiefs with 13 seconds left in the game, with a 94.3 chance of win probability. Bills QB Josh Allen played two near perfect games in the playoffs. It DOES suck they lost as we could have had a home AFC Championship game

The 2018 NY Giants had a 1000 yard RB in Saquon Barkley, 261 carries for 1307 yards, a 5.0 YPC AVG. ODB Jr had 77 receptions for 1052 yards. Yet the 2018 Giants went 5-11. Offense in the mid teens and defense in the low 20s. Shula was replaced as OC in NY when the team hired a new HC. He has since gone on to be the Broncos QB coach. Yes, he did good with Cam Newton as his QB in Carolina. I guess my problem with the guy is that I don't want to see Josh Allen needing to be the teams leading rusher or among the leading rushing scorers anymore. I'm not saying I don't want Allen to run if needed as it can turn a defense upside down. Five passing TDs against the #2 passing defense of the Patriots in that WC playoff game. Four passing TDs against the Chiefs in that divisional playoff game. We all saw that the guy can rip a defense apart with his arm...

The Chiefs had their own problems with a rebuilt offensive line, defensive injuries. I don't know that the Chiefs faced a cover 2 shell scheme against the Buffalo Bills in a 38-20 KC loss in week 5. Or the Ravens, Chargers, Titans, Bengals who they also lost to in 2021? Mahomes was pressing and attempting to carry his team all on his* own. He was clearly struggling for the first part of 2021. You actually think that every team he faced that gave him trouble ran a cover 2 shell? Buffalo also had offensive line issues for a lot of the season. This better O line also helped Buffalo in being able to run the ball more effectively, give Josh more time in the pocket later in the season. Actually utilizing the running game with the RBs also helped the offense. For Buffalo, that cover 2 shell was kryptonite and Daboll couldn't figure out how to defeat it. The Bills/Allen came alive in the second half of that Tampa bay game. Quite a bit of that was all Josh Allen. I also think that McD read Daboll the riot act at that time, or a well placed boot. Nevertheless, shortly after the Bills started running the ball more with the RBs. Previously, I kept reading in this forum how the team needed a RB, needed better O line players. All that talk suddenly stopped after that Bucs game. Tell me again it was Daboll and not Allen...as that young QB played near two perfect playoff games! I do believe it was more Allen!

This! I simply can't watch the NFL network this week, or ESPN. The Bills were mostly injury free and Josh Allen was playing on "unicorn" level above everyone else. This coaching staff screwed it up this season in many ways. From the offense scoring 6 points against a 30th ranked defense of the 2-6 Jacksonville Jaguars. (This game still haunts me almost as much as the 13 seconds.) To allowing the Patriots to win IN Buffalo 10-14 on MNF. That supposed vaunted Buffalo #1 defense that held the Colts to a mere 41 points and allowed a RB to go 32 for 185, 4 TDs. Oh, but if we stack the box we should be able to keep the same players on the field... Nobody on that Buffalo coaching staff thought that KC would be able to move close enough to get a FG in 13 seconds...they learned. You would think that they would know from playing Tom Brady so many times. Not covering Kelce, Hill but covering the sidelines... Josh Allen and Buffalo Bills fans deserved better...as KC fans rejoice in the 13 seconds.

I don't think I did, and I think I made fair points. Firstly, I doubt any new hire of OC for any NFL team comes in and changes the entire scheme. Simply doesn't happen. They usually go with the teams playbook and install plays that they would like to see run. They may tweak it one way or another to run it the way they want. They also usually need to run any changes by the head coach first. The only guy that might make an overall change to a teams offensive scheme would be a new HC hire and usually only if that particular offense has been failing or he if feels he doesn't have the proper personnel to run it. My main point was I'd rather see a bright new mind come in and run an offense that he can make an offense work in all situations. Over some guy that has run the scheme previously... but hasn't been very good at it. Brian Daboll with his 8 years of experience as an NFL OC and he couldn't figure out how to defeat a cover 2 shell? Took him most of the season to figure out how to get the run game working too. Even then, most of the latter seasons offensive explosion was mostly Josh Allen making that offense work. His unique running ability to get first downs opened up quite a bit of the Buffalo offense.

I do. You just explained how a new OC would have input into his job in Buffalo using that "Buffalo Bills offensive playbook". Like a Frank Reich type OC who builds an offense around his players. What I didn't do was suggest the Bills hire a new OC who would change the entire playbook/scheme. Obviously, the Bills would not want a Greg Roman type OC either. You know, not like what Rex Ryan did in Buffalo to that best D line in the league. Instead of asking them to keep doing what they had been doing. He changed the scheme to fit his ideas...of dropping the Bills pass rushers into coverage or asking them to eat up blockers so the crappy Bills LBers could attempt to make a play. Merely suggesting an offense that Josh Allen doesn't need to be the leading rusher, second leading rushing scorer. Looked to me like a lot of teams had caught up to Buffalo's offense at the start of the season.

That really depends on if Ken Dorsey stays or not IMO. While someone like Mike Schula might know that scheme and has run it before. Who is to say the guy would be successful in Buffalo, even with a unicorn the Bills have at QB. He stunk with the NY Giants in 2018-2019, with Eli Manning (and that was with a healthy Saquon Barkley) / Daniel Jones as his QBs. Don't know that the Bills should be as concerned with keeping the scheme over finding a top OC replacement.

I realize that. Just saying, someone from that coaching tree. Shanahan/McVay-WCO tree. Like I said, Josh is a very, very bright guy. Wonderlic, 37. I think it would be good for him to learn other offenses.

I wasn't a fan of drafting Najee Harris. Now that I've watched him play for Pittsburgh, I kinda wish we had. Devin Singletary is good enough. The Bills have other glaring needs.

To be honest I wouldn't mind changing schemes a bit. Like, Green Bay, Matt LaFleur. "Scheme: LaFleur is from the Shanahan/McVay-WCO tree. Heavy use of motion, PA, and RPOs in the passing game and a wide zone run game." Josh Allen has shown he is a very, very bright young man and capable of learning something new. Aaron Rodgers went from 6-9-1 in 2018 under McCarthy to 13-3 in LaFluer's first year. Since 2019, 13-3, 13-3, 13-4.