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Pretty much anyone who put the ball in the air on Saturday struggled including a HoF kicker. I agree that it was just very difficult to work in. I think Bass will shake it off cause you can point to what tucker did. I think josh will shake it off cause hes that type of competitor.

Couple thoughts. See some talk about the Ravens only putting 20 up on Titans, but their D really held a good offense down. Thats what scares me the most. Whether its Titans play calling or OL worse at pass pro than run block or Ravens are that good I dont know, but thats what worries me the most. I am hopeful with the way we have been tested and responded all season (last week is a great example of a team that wont back down if things do go their way at all). On Simms and Florio, I like them picking against us. I think we have done well in those situations, and i saw rodney harrison (Dungy also eye rolled) correct Florio's line of "the Bills have to be second guessing themselves." Both teams got a big weight of their shoulders and will be playing loose. So excited for this game.

It’s also not a good McKenzie match up. Those jet motions are best against man which the colts barely played.

Yeah Zo is a really a good matchup for an LJ led offense. You can be fast and strong with Zo (he also so smart). Youre 70% number didnt surprise me cause of that, and I think he will be the hardest piece to replace (hoping Dirty Harry can make up for missing star a bit).

Edmunds, Milano, and Zo w/ 4 lineman would just be a 4-3 base? Take one of them off (or a DL and have Zo in a 3 point stance) and replace with a big safety (marlowe or neal), thats Big Nickel. I thought you said 3-4 was big nickel. I think I am confused on what TD you are referring to. I remember the long one to a TE last year in the Ravens game as being Poyer peeking at the QB. The one to Doyle Saturday was Tre White missing an assignment, but again I'm not sure which one youre talking about now.

I wouldnt call that a Buffalo Nickel but I agree it would be effective against LJ. Buffalo Nickel is usally subbing a LB for a Big Safety in the front 7 (reg nickel is Taron Johnson at CB). I think the TE TD was Poyer peeking in the back field and then getting just a bit mixed up as the routes crossed on the release. It was just that little bit that caused him to be a step behind. I agree Zo and Star will be missed. I think Epenesa can replace what Murphy did.

I would also like to see him block in the passing game as thats a critical need for our RBs that I know Moss and Singeltary have done well at.

The other Minshew thread got me thinking about if we needed Fromm this year. Any thoughts on if it would be smart to give him the second team reps this week and let Barkley be the Covid Back up

above is really our best shot to retaining him. Being an NFL HC is the pinnacle of your profession and the folks at that level think they are good enough to turn around any situation (see Dabs previous OC gigs to see he has confidence to try and turn around some rough spots). So imo he will def accept any position that he is offered. So be in the super bowl which should also make one other good coordinators available. Then hope someone goes after retread like BO’B or Gase.

Perna is a good watch. He is enjoying the heckling of Tompa bay this year (so a lot of good NFL content not just Denver). I got hooked last offseason with his "are you a moderately priced free agent we will sign you" bit.

I really hope not that would really hurt our cap situation. Really tough that he opted out. Also on the $5 mil for rookies, I disagree (not sure who said this). It looks like $5 mil cause thats the sum of their contracts, but with the rule of 51 its much less than that (like 2 mil).

This is sorta where we will be in a couple years though when Josh gets extended. You need your picks to provide value at the bottom of roster as depth.

What? Hes under contract til 2023 and we moved up some money for him so I dont think hes gonna make that type of noise at all. I think we can sign all three (see Gregg Tompsett's breakdowns, he nailed the Tre and Dawkins contracts, on multiple pod casts) but if told to prioritize Milano (Critical to defense would make it incentive laden) Williams (Tackles is the most important position of the 3) Feliciano (Guards are the least valued position, though I love him).

I feel like we should get some credit for the fact that we were in scoring position at the end of the game. So if you give us those 3 points thats ~ a TD more than the steelers allow on average (all this with us not doing much in the first half). If you look at it that way its a pretty different performance. Its harder than you make it seem. Since the last 3 of these are not on the roster you could only elevate 2 from the PS and would need to cut someone to make room for the last person. I agree use Fromm and as many as you can elevate, and maybe some become close contacts so we can elevate more including Dane Jackson? EDIT: all the ragging on the Bills O on that board caused me to look at our team offense stats. 20 is the fewest 1st downs we've had in a game. Thats crazy to me. This team matriculates the ball down field (3rd in total first downs).

Could we just decorate the fence to show what this season has meant. Seems a bit like HS but could look good if you cover a large enough section.

agreed but it cancels out the missed fumble call from our side.

actually its an either or situation. We have tiebreakers not matter what.

We can still sign all 3 with some restructuring. I’m not that concerned about being able to resign all 3 because of this year’s contracts. Wallace is opposite Tre. He’s gonna get picked on and was right there on a lot of plays last week. Maybe that bogus PI had him playing a step slower. Either way I think communication is big for this defense and I suspect this is why they can’t quite roll with Dane Jackson. Although I’m very excited about him next year competing for CB2.

Yup and that’s the situational part of it. The jets were not gonna be able to sustain so we didn’t need to go for it. Also if you convert at 50% it’s 7 points to 6. So the probability is you will come out ahead in most cases if you go for it.

You should care if Star comes back because he has like 0 cap savings if we cut him or he retired. And we would still need to replace him.

Agree total boom or bust defense. Get sacks or give up 7. Also I think they had multiple sacks to end a series (2nd and 3rd down) that sorta inflate those numbers. Basically it’s not like they got a sack a drive that we had to overcome.

As much as I don’t like him this is the reason he would play tomorrow. Sign me up for him playing and helping ensure TJ watt doesn’t get near Josh followed by smith being inactive the rest of the year for a Lombardi.

I think it’s extensions for brown and Morse. Make their salaries into a signing bonuses and give them a smaller salary on the extra year. Brown is not gonna get 9 mil with another team. Offer him 8 mil as a signing bonus and make his 2021 salary vet minimum with a 2022 salary of 5-6 mil. He would be under contact for 13-14mil for two years which is a bit of an overlay but works with cap things well (4mil in savings for 2021)

God that game was such a comedy of errors for the offense. Had a Beasley tip go for a pick. Motor fumbled twice I think (lost one) which caused us to give Gore the most burn. I still nearly throw up thinking about Gore trying to bounce an inside run in the red zone. I also think we had a ton of drive killing penalties and drops.

It’s sorta weird cause he was such a threat downfield as rookie with some sick grabs and angry runs, but could Dawson Knox be more valuable in the short game this year? Diggs is another weapon to stretch the field (Davis is probably better in the vertical passing game too). So instead Knox might have a really good role chipping the rush and then eating against zones underneath (he’s certainly athletic enough for YAC). This sounds really good this week when they will have back up LBs in those zones.