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I still need to get to Hamsah's tape but his reps at senior bowl looked good. He did well in press and had the physicality i would want in big nickel (deployed against 2 TE sets). Overall FSU seems to not be coaching talent well lately so he may have more room to grow more than most. Ill get back to you after i watch some of the available youtube tape.

About us signing their starter to our bench?

I made love to my wife just after to be sure i didnt convert.

IMO its a small sample size and thats why it changed so suddenly. In those ten games there were many drives where most of hte work was done in the 3rd quarter and then they punched it in at the start of the 4th. Really dont think this was a thing. 3 drives i quickly found that started in the 3rd, were in the opponents territory at the start of the 4th and went for 7 in the 4th Raiders, NE (1st game), Seattle. 21 point swing there. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202010040rai.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202011010buf.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202011080buf.htm

We are returning more snaps than like anyone else. Check out Joe Marinos pod today. I think he said 38 reasons why we could get better and 7 we might regress. I think well be ok.

DE is sorely in need of bodies. Hughes, Addison, Epenesa, ... Johnson (ugghhh). I was thinking there would be two additions there at the start of FA (now probably just one through the draft). I think on the O-line Beane pulls the ole draft someone and trade someone else (not necessarily the worst player). Safety and Big Nickel are both in need of capable bodies as well. Thats 4 pretty quick which gets us to our 5th round if we dont trade down. That 5th player is likely not on the team for their stated position and are going to be a teams player only. So I guess I sorta agree with your point cause I think Beane will bring a surplus of O Line players to camp again and then move one for picks near the end of camp.

Start with the chiefs. CEH, thorn hill, and hard man all seem to be pretty near their peak. Compare that to a top 10 player like Ed Or a first round pick like Tremaine. Better counter is to say they are gonna bust but I think we have a good bit (more than most teams) of untapped potential on our team.

It’s not gonna take much to sign draft picks because the rule of 51. The numbers for the contracts are known as well. I assume beane didn’t make that gaffe.

I would also mention a point joe Marino has made. There are several young players that are primed to take a step up and if they do that will material difference to the team because of their position. They include Josh (still has room to hit his ceiling), Ed, Tremaine, Knox, Epenesa. If two of these take a step forward then we will have a much better team.

He also did some jet sweep work. Could replace McKenzie? Also as mentioned he has returned kicks and punts. Could get some versatility out of him other teams could unlock because he’s lower on our depth chart.

Thanks for the link. It was sorta the elite skills I was speaking too. His last season is interesting. About 1/3 of his receding yards and almost 1/5 of the total you gave came in two games against meh competition. He’s okish as a receiver. But i laugh at him getting the same money we’re paying diggs. I think it’s a big overpay.

Was he that good in college? I remember watching miles jack film and he covered him like the whole game and jack ended up with more yards cause he was doubling as an RB for the bruins.

Was talking to @Doc about this. Salary is guaranteed. But team could try to recoup the bonuses. This is tough though cause if star is concerned about the team trying to recoup the bonuses he could just show up and try to get cut (so the team can’t get the bonuses back).

No we dont need that much. The sum of their salaries might make it look like that but in practice its much less. In the offseason your top 51 contracts count against the cap. So when you sign a draft pick you are displacing one of those top 51 and the cap hit is the difference between their contracts. With first round picks this is a actually a material amount of money (like $1 mil or so) but for the later picks its not nearly as much. I think we need 2-3 mIl for draft picks (that might even be high)

8 rounds of draft

No news the discussion was tangential. Someone mentioned hoping they cut Star (really bad idea) and I responded say I just hope he doesnt retire which lead us to this rabbit hole. No news here.

Agree on Lee Smith. I see you can "try" and get the money back. Sounds like the process goes to arbitration. I know (lost the link) you dont get the cap relief until the money is returned. So since its a process and FA is right around the corner I think its best if Star doesnt retire else were gonna be trying to fill a hole and we wont get the money until later. The big assumption in there is that the FO would try to get it back. Appreciate the clarification that we do have some ability to get money back but Star retiring would be pretty awful still.

That might be it either way i still hope he doesnt retire (I'm gonna keep trying to find more info). Trying to get that bonus back sounds like its a bit painful.

Thanks! I wanna find the video(s) from @Cover 1 where they were saying different. Maybe its the new CBA?

Do you have links cause I'm seeing it (link above) as a release?

Please explain. My understanding is retirement is a release thus he costs cap. This is why were letting Lee Smith retire cause otherwise were cutting him. I know @Cover 1 has discussed it before but here is another reference from last year (3rd paragraph). https://www.catscratchreader.com/2020/1/15/21066845/nfl-carolina-panthers-luke-kuechly-retirement-cap-space-2020-what-does-it-mean

No they wont. It will cost them cap space which is why i hope he doesnt retire.

Im just hoping star doesnt retire.

No rule of 51. It might look like 10million but only the top 51 salaries count against the cap for now (53 later obviously). When you sign a draftee if they make more than the 51st player than you bump them off the list. However, the affect to the cap is just the difference between the draftee cap number and the 51st players cap number (since that player was counting previously). When you consider the price of later round draft picks relative to vet minimums those picks cost like nothing to sign.

This doesnt make sense to me. Now we need our draft picks to start giving returns??? Why not when we were 8-8, 9-7, 6-10...? That mark, of truly great teams that lets starters walk, is a franchise QB. You have one of those (we do) you can let players walk, you can have draft picks not hit. If your draft picks do hit then youre talking about super bowl and not just a playoff team because you have a franchise QB.