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Not directed to me, but I'll answer. Where I feel more comfortable with our lack of continuity over the Chiefs is time in the system. Yes we haven't had our starting line up play a snap together but all our anticipated starters and most of the backups (besides the two tackle towers) have had more than a year in the offensive system. For the Chiefs, they don't have that besides Allegretti, Remmer, and Duvarney-Tardiff.

Much thanks for the addition. I think they have a bit more depth at iOL with Allegretti and Duvernay-Tardiff than tackle, but with a new Center, new LG, and potentially new RT this could definitely stress the communication that comes from reps.

I thought so too but he looks super fit now. Bit of a butter ball previously. Thats a solid 312 (not sure exactly where cover 1 got this weight from) hes got going on right now.

Heard from cover 1 dudes that he was looking fit too. Saw this picture on an article. Anyone on Twitter got a better picture. He does look like he lost weight.

Think it was the Colts game when Josh shotputted the ball to him. He secured it and then just thud. Our only offensive TD in the Ravens game was the screen to Diggs when we outnumbered them on the outside.

Will add that the drive out of half time against the Steelers was very good and made that game feel out of reach. Overall, my favorites would be aforementioned Colts and Ravens. For colts it was impressive that we could be outplayed for the first half and we would have the lead. For Ravens, it was just a feel of inevitability. We had seen Josh and the offense roll coming out half times in the prior games (remember our 3rd quarter woes), and it felt like they wouldnt be stopped.

Not sure where youre looking but this article indicates the switch happened before cut down day and before the first game on 13SEP. https://buffalowdown.com/2020/09/02/buffalo-bills-could-reggie-gilliam-make-the-roster-as-a-tight-end/

I also like Beasley down the sideline early in the Rams game. Ignore this trash and go watch the Cover 1 break downs of Josh this year. They are awesome and a lot of fun. Thankfully they went the whole season (NFL didnt shut them down). Watching those over the 3 years of Allens career has been worth the time investment.

Agree don't cut him yet. I do want competition there. Then maybe they can convince Star that he should return some of the money and just retire. Also all the Lolz for the poster saying that Diggs (who lead the league in targets) was just a complimentary piece in this offense. He got thrown to more than Devin or Moss got touches.

More is with held but at the end of the year its still income. So at the end of the year it is still taxed at the same rate as provided by the example. You just dont get as much upfront.

No, the bills have a cap that most fantasy football leagues dont have. Particularly ones where you make that type of move. Are there any examples of that type of contract structuring happening. Also would note were talking about moving up 7 mil. That would be 1.4 mil per year savings if a 5 year deal. Not even that much benefit imo.

Agree with @Shaw66, Josh and Tremaine are on the books for this year so you dont need to free space THIS year for their contracts. Overall, I don't expect Tremaine to get an extension till probably after his 5th season. Really need to see sustained growth with him. I do agree this is more likely to be an uexpected move. My dark horse is for a 1 Tech and now that Star doesnt cost money to cut they bring in some competition.

Jamal Adams on the list is pretty bad imo. He looked awful in our game. Maybe it was just one but he had missed assignments and was scorched.

We talk how he played good in 2019 and we would’ve loved to see more. But we forget the Bills did see more of him. In training camp for a few weeks. If he was performing at his 2019 level in training camp (seems likely) then that should assuage some of those fears. He’s obviously at the facilities so the bills would also have good perspective on his approach this year relative to 2019. I like Joe Marino (I’m in his jersey raffle) but I think he might be missing what McBeane see. Star has gotten me worried so I’m really hoping for Harry to play out of his mind.

I listened to Joe Marino’s recent podcast on KC overall and it showed me a couple of things I was missing. On the cheap labor front he noted how so many of their late round picks have had success. Particularly in the defensive backfield. Some questions going forward still with the loss of Breeland but the late round success has made cap management easier (probably enables this years spending). I still think OL could be a challenge for them if just one or two of these moves don’t work out. At the end of the day, their ability to have their big $ players be successful has really been the most important for their cap management. If we didn’t have even the bad (not worst ever) contract of Star we could do a lot to improve.

Thanks was interested in your insight. Depth and long term investment will also be interesting for y’all although I think Gunner explained how it can work. Appreciate the perspective particularly about hitches contract. I definitely don’t know enough to try and say they should’ve done what I did(was not in the OP). Rather was responding to prodding of what would o have done and that’s what popped in after a bit of looking. I think their cap situation is interesting though. By trading for brown they are not necessarily looking for cheap talent. I do not want the Bills trading away a first after this season to plug a hole. We need cheap labor and I think chiefs are in a similar position. The brown move is not cheap labor (although he is very talented) at a premium position.

While his Drop % isn't fully corrected he cut it in half last year so he should get some credit for that improvement. After his SECOND stint on inactive list he had 16 catches for 179 yards which extrapolates to 42 catches for 477 yards for a season. If he can stay healthy and continue to decrease his drop % I think hell be good. The staying healthy is my biggest concern.

Hes gonna be on this roster unless others out play him at 1 Tech. Considering its our worst position group I dont think its gonna happen.

Thats the pre-June 1 number. So yes if we cut him today it would cost money. I just used the post June 1 number cause of the date. Good catch.

I thought we were hunted last year. Most were picking us to win the division before the season. Once the season started we lead the division wire to wire so they were hunting us when it got to the second time we played them. So while its even more apparent this year, I think this team is more than ready to handle being the hunted.

Short answer (see what i did there) it doesnt help much. Star saves 500k post June 1. Its not happening.

Clearly you have not looked at their contracts. The $2 mill saved from cutting both of them post June 1 will not be enough to get anyone.

Sorry for delay in reply. Brown is def good but I dont think anyone (including Chiefs) knows what Niang will be. He could be good and that will solve a lot of their problems but its hoping for a 3rd round rookie to be a starter at this point. Long and Thuney do not particularly scare me at Tackle (Thuney does at guard though) so I don't consider them to be better depth than Bates at this point. I agree they did a lot on the line this year. Im just not as sold on the overall strategy as the media is. Long term they did little to address the concerns in the positional grouping (only Niang, Thuney, Humphrey, Allegretti, +2 others under contract for 2022). Since the Mahomes money will start hitting the cap next yaer, they might have trouble repeating what they did this year. Brown would be great to re-sign but spotrac has them only with 6.3 million dollars in cap for 2022 so they will be hard pressed to run the same plan back. On what I would have done. I would not have traded for Brown. Thats a sugar high to me. I would have used that asset to draft Teven Jenkins, Landon Dickerson, or Liam Eichenberg (less sold on him); I will admit I do get some benefit of hindsight here. Still draft Humphries for interior and then probably not draft DE at the end of round 4 but draft another developmental tackle like Tommy Doyle. So I would not have drafted a LB and a DE and gotten a cost controlled starting tackle for a couple years in Jenkins and a developmental Tackle while securing the positional group long term. I am also not as sure I would have paid Thuney. I would have tried to get 90% of him at 50% the cost. Impossible to say what UFA were available to them but I wouldve used that money on multiple opportunities (thinking Zeitler, Lamp, Lane Taylor, or Trai Turner) at filling that hole for cheaper. This would let me be able to spend next year if there is a UFA that I like. They are gonna start paying Mahomes a lot of money. The OL play could derail their whole plan if its poor and he gets hurt (he tries to keep plays a live like Josh). Moves like Brown and Thuney to some degree seem like they havent realized that Mahomes contract (while fair) needs to be worked around in the future. They will be hard pressed to bring in UFAs for a year to sort out their OL next year.

Thanks for the replies. So I can get on board with a lot of the talent over continuity discussion. any thoughts on the second two items for KC OL? They are again not very deep at OT, and they might have to pull some UFA magic again next year to get another good line. Long term I think it’s risky to not invest much more to the line when you are paying Mahomes so much.

KC has done a great job of turning around their line this year, but I'm not sure were talking about how/if continuity will affect them. I saw some chatter that it didnt help us, but Ive also heard a lot of chatter that OL is the room that benefits the most from continuity. KC will only be returning one starter from last years line it appears (maybe 2 with Allegretti). If continuity is something real this line may take a minute to perform up to their expectations. While I think they have a slight edge on us in terms of starter quality, they are perilously thin at Tackle. They are one injury away from starting Niang (effectively a rookie) or Rankin (was not called on for SB when down 2 Tackles). Any injury will exacerbate any continuity issues. Lastly, they will need to repeat this process again next year as they only have the following players under contract: Thuney, Humphrey, Allegretti, Niang. So while they could re-sign Brown; there is a strong chance they will continue to have continuity problems again next year. Even though KC did some great work they have a long ways to go for OL to become stable, and I feel more comfortable with Beanes approach to the draft this year. Flame away if you think this is a hot take.