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Let’s get this train back on track

I agree, but only cap savings comes with a trade. So hopefully they figure that out rather than eating the $4 mill dead cap if they just release him.

If we trade Elam before 6/1 we save 2.5 mill. Would some team take Elam and a 6th for a 7th rounder?

Yea it’s a draft with no instant impact players, a couple guys that filled a role. Have the most hope for Bishop, Solomon and Grable going forward. McDermott had weird comments about Bishop in July about the number one thing for him is being in shape after the break [before camp]. That along with being behind guys like Hamlin and Rapp all year just seems like maybe the Bills didn’t get what they were expecting.

Tre Harris or any of the DTs that wind up at 30 (Walter Nolan, Derrick Harmon, TJ Sanders, Kenneth Grant).

Yea it will be interesting to see his measurements. He did outrun the Marshall defense on a screen pass so the speed may be there. I will say that he was clutch for OSU, he has just been there so long he is a bit taken for granted. Kind of like how Chris Olave was. Egbuka is my top slot WR and so when the rankings are combined puts Horton at WR6 too. He is another guy that ran a million short routes and didn’t get to show his speed enough in college.

Yup, either they sign him and skimp everywhere else besides Burrow, Chase and Hendricks (maybe) to stay in Browns budget. Or they will tag him and try to trade him. Either way won’t be an option for us.

Yea we will see how he tests and measures also. I’m just not sure he has a special physical trait to go along with his route running, but if he did he probably wouldn’t be available in our range. I would be ok with Egbuka at 30 if they want to try him out wide, and if it doesn’t work you have a cost controlled slot receiver as Shakir comes available for a second contract. Of the two Texas WRs, I think Bond is the more talented if healthy. But Golden did prop up the Texas passing offense with Bond hurt down the stretch. At 30 I’d be ok with him too but yes may prefer a defensive player at that spot. Higgins is actually my outside WR5 (whereas Bryant and Felton are 9 and 10) atm as I am working through things. But I think being out for most of the year last year may drop him closer to that rd3 range with the others. Especially since I can’t find much detail on what his knee injury was.

Yea for Harris, the Ole Miss offense is a bit weird but I think I see enough separation and speed that he could be a really good player outside. Injuries are my biggest concern with him. Egbuka played over 70% in the slot in college and only caught 14 deep throws over the past 3 years. He is a good route runner and if put in more of those situations, I’m sure he could make some plays but I’d prefer to pass. I’d be happy with Golden, Bond or getting two of the other outside receivers later in the draft (Bryant, Higgins, Felton, etc) Ive joined you on the get Higgins bandwagon. That gives Josh an alpha WR who has shown he can do it in the playoffs, frees up our draft, and then we can draft later WRs to try and develop. I don’t think we will win the Higgins sweepstakes or Metcalf but I’m hopeful.

Mike Wallace is a good one since they both had two 1k yard seasons. Could go back to Andre Rison as Tee has three 900+ yard seasons to his name like Rison did when he hit free agency yea we know the reason. Pretty rare opportunity for a team to get a good young WR without having to give up anything aside from cap space.

The 4 games Higgins played without Chase in 2022: 23 catches, 371 yard and 2 touchdowns. outproduced Chase in both AFCCGs they went to and in the Super Bowl. Injuries are a risk. we would be lucky if Keon develops into a similar receiver that Higgins is. Would be basically unheard of for a WR with his resume and in his prime to make it to free agency.

Yep. Keon is the only receiver we have drafted in the first three rounds in Josh’s entire career. Egbuka is a nice slot receiver but our outside receiver needs an upgrade. Tre Harris is the best of the outside options this year imo. But honestly, Tee Higgins like you have said before is the best option assuming he hits the market. Won’t cost any draft capital and he has been great against the Chiefs in the postseason. Also, frees us up to draft defense and developmental offensive players.

I think the reason you are getting so much push back even though you are right that the defense definitely does need extra help, is that most fans trust Josh much, much more than McDermott and Beane. Even in 2021, when the Bills were the top DVOA defense and allowed the fewest PPG we still lost to KC in the playoffs by allowing over 40 points. Since then, of all the draft capital used on defense and free agent signings our best players are Groot and a 6th round pick Benford who has been hurt in the last two playoffs. in that same timeframe, our offensive investments have paid off more and so people would rather take the chance on adding more there and hopefully going from the 16th highest scoring offense all time to the top one. This year, I think being defense heavy is reasonable because Free Agency and the draft favor the defense. But if they bit the bullet for Tee Higgins, or drafted a WR early I would have more faith in those players working out for us than on the defensive side

I think Pat Bryant from Illinois and Tory Horton from CSU will ultimately go in the third round, they probably fit the mold and draft capital of your question the best imo. Day 3 is probably going to fit the developmental outside receiver value for us the most. Ricky White and Tai Felton are a bit more polished, played outside in college but are a bit slight. There is also Elijah Badger, Keandre Lambert Smith, Dont’e Thornton, Xzavier Henderson who all played outside and have great speed.

Yea he hurt his ankle vs Oklahoma and then was never really the same and then sprained it against Georgia in the SEC Championship. in the first five games of the season when both Bond and Golden were healthy, Bond was significantly more productive. But he is a smaller receiver and injuries may be part of his story. When healthy he is pretty good.

I think if you forgo the strength of this draft until day 3, you should at least take two chances on a DT. Preferably you draft one early and one later. We will probably sign some replacement level DT in free agency.

Alfred Collins is so impressive moving literally. I’ll be interested to see how he measures because he doesn’t look or move like someone who weighs 320 pounds. Would be a big fan of him being drafted to be our 1tech.

First three picks are pretty solid. Morrison is an excellent cornerback if his hip injury is cleared by the docs. Pegues being the only DT we select would be pretty disappointing especially since the 4th is early for him imo.

Disagree. Having the best GM in the league and hiring two top coordinators is his key. Last year the coordinators weren’t right and they collapsed

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/look-patrick-mahomes-skips-samaje-perine-in-awkward-moment-during-super-bowl-lix-01jkr18szqd8

Barron certainly has playmaking ability, but I’m not sure if he is a fit for the Bills. The game against Ohio State it was like he was allergic to contact and the time where he had to make a tackle it was not too pretty. Revel was also a Juco kid because he was academically ineligible coming out of HS I read. Probably another reason they may stay away Im very early in my process so have only really gotten through DT, WR, and some CBs so far. But two later round guys that I think will be some of the top players from their position cohort: Ricky White - crushed Michigans dreams of playoffs as a Freshman at MSU. Transferred to UNLV and had two awesome years of production. I see a player who has a great feel for zone, has good yac ability with speed to pull away from tacklers, is fast enough to stack defenders when he gets vertical, has some contested catch ability as well as over the shoulder tracking, and most importantly is a good route runner who creates separation pretty easily. Some concerns is he seems to have had some undisclosed issue at Michigan State so character may be a concern, and he is not very big though he did play predominately outside. Also a good special teamer to stick on the roster early on. O’Donnell Fortune - MVP of Shrine Bowl after his pick 6. One of those players that put in the work and went from special teamer to starter over his time at SC. Good tackler and I think he does a really good job reading QBs eyes and getting to the right spot whether he is playing his man or dropping off his guy to get in front of a throw. Plus bonus of having another guy with an O apostrophe first name.

Shes 50 years younger so I think that may be his great grand daughter. Still very sweet. Also congrats on MVP Josh! You are the best!

I’m very much in agreement that getting Allen more help on offense is the key. Tho with everything being equal I do think Crosby is a better player than DK. Just don’t see many options on the trade market for the Bills. Yes DK, George Pickens (head case, but already is what we want Keon to be on the field), Rashid Shaheed (coming off injury tho), Alec Pierce, Romeo Doubs. And not sure we would break the bank for a very injury prone Tee Higgins this year So I’ll be scouring the WR draft prospects in case we miraculously draft one this year haha