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Yes. Most on here probably think we should be favorites and are likely expecting a win. I'm preparing for a loss as much as a win.That was my point. I'm sure Vegas will have us as favorites but that won't make me any more comfortable.

The problem with starting Peterman is what if he looks decent by rookie standards and then McBeane and McDermot decide to LT and DT with the first two picks passing on a QB. Then Peterman never really improves off his first year.

50/50 chance we lost to the Jets week 1. And I'm being serious. I don't expect the Jets to start Hackenberg. If they do then I think we have a 90% chance of taking that one. And since the Jets are going to be a major hurdle for us to jump in the pursuit of our next franchise QB it's not like we should be bummed about losing to the Jets week one.

Damn. I was hoping we could package McBeane for a late round pick before he completely destroys our roster.

That's great. But how many are actually any good? Or did they just find their place on the depth chart due to circumstances of a bad roster to begin with. At this point we don't know the answer to that question. All we know is they have a lot of young players on the roster and that they were a really bad team last year. Where they go from here we don't know yet. The risk is falling in love with Kizer and passing on a top QB in the next draft because of that love. Then the next two seasons Kizer fizzles out. It's a lot easier for a rookie QB to look good when you chalk up the mistakes made during the season to being a rookie and projecting future improvement. If they start Oz or Kessler it's very unlikely either of those guys performs at a level high enough to keep them from drafting a QB next year.

So how many franchise QB's does that make now that we passed on in this last draft? It's our luck that the '17 QB draft class will end up better than the '18 class.

It's been that way since at least the Losman days.

Dude did have sub 9.0 ypc last season. That's down there with the RB's averages.

He literally had one of the worst rookie campaigns ever for a QB so it's not like an improvement will mean much unless he improves a ton. He does seem to have some weapons to throw to now so we shall see what kind of step up he takes.

100% agree. In today's NFL I am a big believer in starting a rookie QB day one if that is an option. With Taylor being here I'm not sure it is for us. But it could be possibly. Today's young QB's pretty much either have it and show it from the word go or they don't.

Peterman hasn't exactly lit it up against 2's and 3's. So who are you saying is the best at the QB position? The thing in Peterman's favor is that he is a rookie. Sometimes the saying, if the battle for the position is close then give it to the rookie is true. Sometimes it's not. Also, consider that the last pre-season game we just saw from Taylor was probably the worst we've seen ever outside of maybe the fourth quarter of the Oakland game last year. Basically even with that terrible film, there is a good chance that was an anomaly. Preseason game #3 will be interesting but at this point I think Peterman has to look a whole lot better to take the job from Taylor no matter how bad Taylor looks in the next game. Now if Taylor's first two games to start the season are very similar to his first two games to start the season last year then I think we have a legitimate argument to make that Peterman should get a look.

Assuming Gaines and Matthews are as advertised our depth at WR and CB should be fine. If we are going to move a player it should be Ragland. Trade Reggie for another former 1st/2nd round pick on another team who also is finding themselves third on the depth chart. That is how we landed Hughes in the first place.

Okay, I'll be one of those over reactors. There actually is a chance he Taylor could be benched in favor of Peterman come week one. That was a flat out terrible performance by Taylor today. If he doesn't separate himself from a rookie QB in the next game then I could see it as a real possibility.

So we sucked last year basically?

6-10 3-3 inside the division 3-7 outisde the division

I don't want to get WAY ahead of myself but Watson, Turbitzky and Mahomes all showed promise in their first live action the other day. If players keep developing we could be just fine as a league as a whole. Throw in Wentz looking decent and Mariotta and Winston continuing to build on their careers and the NFL could be just fine.

Not sure. Maybe going back an even 10 years to 2007 would have made the list look too depressing. 2007 was an epically bad QB draft.

Is it just me or have there been more better QB's selected in rounds 2-7 then in the first round since 2009?

Then demote/cut/trade Taylor NOW. Picking top 1-5 vs. 6-10 could make the world of difference in landing the QB they want.

Production decreasing every year. Down to career low 11.0ypc last season. Is his body starting to slow down on him? Same thing with Boldin. If you throw any receiver the ball enough they will rack up yards. Thing is, on this team they are not likely to get the ball thrown their way that much so it would be a good guess to see production drop.

2917: This is the year Brady's age finally starts to catch up to him

He won't have a choice if the Rams tag him. If he gets tagged he may decided to sign a long term contract with the Rams or just play under the tag. Many options really.

Why? I imagine the Bills have several people on salary that only talk and consider next years draft. So why can't fans?

The ankle twisting TD was against the Bengals and yeah that was just before the half and he didn't return. The other games was Miami as you correctly said. There he caught a 30 or 40 yard pass and pulled up with a strained calf muscle.

As long as Watkins stays healthy, plays 14/16 games at minimum I see the Rams doing whatever they have to do to keep him. Regardless of his stats. Bringing in Watkins for the Rams is more about finding out what they have in Goff. Very good chance that next year they will be picking somewhere where they have the choice of sticking with Goff or going a different route at QB. Watkins helps them evaluate Goff if he can stay on the field.