Kirby Jackson

Staying in school would be possible but I think if the Saints pick 1, he comes out. The roots are so deep in that organization and city with that family. Arch lives less than 15 minutes from the practice facility and dome. The Prince who was promised

That’s fair and I should have specified QB. I think that he’s a top 30 - 40 QB all-time. I also feel like Bills fans have him in the top 10-15. He had a great career and an accomplished career. Kelly just felt like more of a “piece” to why they were great instead of the reason. I use the Jalen Hurts example and that’s not meant to be an insult. He’s been to 2 Super Bowls already and won 1. He’s been an MVP candidate but is never considered to be the best in the game. It is more a function of being the QB on the best team. That was Kelly when he played. He was somewhere between the 4th-8th best QB in any given year (or something like that). He belongs in the HOF. Hurts may end up there too.

This was kind of how I felt but voted opposite. I think either scenario is a win.

This seems to be the dilemma at the moment. Do they just punt on 2025 and try to get the hometown hero? Do they like Sanders or Dart enough to take them at 9 and start them right away?

He’s about as popular in New Orleans as people who say, “Nawlins” or “New Or-Lee-ns.”

I could have. You could have. Those teams were so stacked.

Love this (and I like Marv). I could have coached that team to the same results. He was a great leader and a mess on game day.

That’s what makes it spicy. Kelly isn’t in the league with Josh. edit: I can also tell how old someone is or how long they’ve followed the Bills by their Kelly takes. He was a borderline, top 5 player on those teams. He was Jalen Hurts. If you think he was better than that it is because your dad told you that. I never saw OJ play but my dad insists, with the possible exceptions of Bruce and Josh, he’s the best Bills player ever. Tom Sestak carries that status too for a lot of older folks. Kelly was better as a memory than as a player. He was closer to Fitz than to Josh.

I think this is a fun offseason topic. What is your spiciest BIlls take? What is it that you believe that will trigger Bills fans? I think Jim Kelly is one of the most overrated players in history. He was a very good QB. Historically, he was Jalen Hurts. Kirk Cousins numbers dwarf Kelly’s. He was the steward of an elite offense and did well with it. I am fine with him in the HOF but there are 30-40 QBs better. What is your spicy take?

I felt like it made sense (even though I don’t love Sanders). It gets the Giants out of paying Thibodeaux and gets the QB. It’s a mini-reset. The Bears will get Thibodeaux, a starter at 34, probably a starter at 65 and maybe a starter in the 3rd next year. Felt reasonable

With the 10th pick, the NY Giants select Shadeur Sanders, QB, Colorado. We paid a pretty hefty price but if Sanders becomes the franchise QB, it’s well worth it. We risked some of our draft capital to build out the roster in exchange for a shot at the QB. We have Carter to replace, and hopefully upgrade Thibodeaux. He’s on a rookie deal. Sanders comes in and hopefully wins the job. @MrEpsYtown is on the clock

Perfect!!

Can I make one tweak and set the over/under at 8.5? I think that the Saints are absolutely in play. In fact, I think that’s likeliest landing spot. Otherwise, I’m good.

Yeah buddy!! I love a good message board bet. It makes it more fun. What do you have in mind?

I just don’t see it. Sanders just isn’t an elite prospect. Next year’s draft should have better QB options. Sanders is a JJ McCarthy-level prospect. I think Kirk Cousins spends the year as the Browns QB. They take Hunter because he’s one of the two best players in the draft. They have Hunter and Jeudy along with Njoku. That’s pretty decent. It allows the Browns to be good somewhere. The same can be said if they go Carter instead (although that seems less likely as of today). I think Sanders is more likely to fall out of the top 10 than he is to go top 3. I also think that there’s a decent chance that Jaxson Dart goes before him (maybe Saints at 9).

Lol, whenever I read through the options I cringe. The hotel situation in Buffalo is better than it was when Tom Brady’s dad trashed it, but only incrementally. The Embassy, Westin, Courtyard downtown, the Curtiss and the Marriott downtown would probably be at the top of my short list. I’m not boujee about most things, but certainly hotels. I have watched too many internet videos on bed bugs and bodily fluids, to be comfortable anywhere. 🤣🤣

Add a layer to it, it’ll be tough to trade out of 4 because no one wants to move up for the first player in the next tier. They honestly should consider Graham or Jeantty. They are better players than what is on the board IMO. Maybe they take an upside guy like Walker. I think that I want them to take Campbell.

Yeah, they’re in a tricky spot with him. The Giants probably have to take Carter or Hunter. It sounds like the Browns are going to take Hunter. it’s pretty close to the top 3 picks being a lock Ward to Hunter to Carter. The draft gets interesting at 4. The Giants can try to trade out of 3. I would have put the pick out for bid had it not been 11 PM. It did not seem to be a good idea to hold up the draft overnight while waiting for a deal that’s unlikely to happen anyways. Thibodeaux is now eligible for an extension as he’s entering year 4. The Giants can avoid having to overpay and still use him as an asset. They can upgrade at edge, while flipping Thibodeaux to upgrade somewhere else. They can do this before having to commit to a 2nd contract for Thibodeaux.

With the 3rd pick, the New York Giants select Abdul Carter, Edge, Penn State. It’s a position of strength for our team already but can’t pass on elite talent. @BuffaloBillyG is on the clock

The Giants accept 🤣🤣

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Thanks @Virgil!! This was great again. I actually enjoyed walking away hating the Bills draft 🤣🤣.