Kirby Jackson

I believe that if extended though the Bills can spread that cap hit out. For example if they bring back McGovern and Bosa they can take those “void year hits” and roll them into the new deal. They can also designate Jones and Milano as post-June 1 and save about $7M for next year.

Who said “his HC prospects were stronger than ever?” Please quote where that was said. You’re too smart to use hyperbole to try to mislead people. Let’s not try to distort reality to strengthen our argument. You’re better than that. What was said is that, “he will be a HC in 2026.” He will. No one said that his prospects were stronger than ever. It’s based on the landscape and odds. He’s the betting favorite for the LSU job. He’s a candidate at Penn State. He will be a candidate for the handful of NFL jobs that open. He’s +400 and the second choice to be the Titans HC. He’s +1200 to be the Giants next HC despite them just firing the last guy who was previously Josh Allen’s OC. https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/nfl-regular-season/coaches.

I forgot about Rapp. If they designate Jones and Milano as post June 1 that opens up about $7M. https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills I am with you on retooling for next year. The Bills have a chance to reshape this roster with significant turnover but without significant drop off. Hawes will fill the Knox role. Taron has lost a step and Cam/Hancock can fill in adequately. Milano never plays. Bernard can move into that slot and get a bigger body in the middle. Jones is a rotational guy in an area where, if healthy, they have a lot of bodies. Rapp and Samuel are easily replaced.

I am no capologist but was messing around on there last night. I expect Milano, Knox, Taron, Jones and Samuel to all be gone. A couple of them will carry a post-June 1 designation. edit: I forgot Rapp and Bass too

They were 3rd (1/2 point behind Detroit). Their 29.4 PPG trailed Indy and Detroit. They were first in yards per game. They lost because they got behind and couldn’t run. They went down 2 scores early in the second quarter of yesterday’s game and the Atlanta game. They clawed their way back in both times but couldn’t establish the run while trailing by multiple scores. The Atlanta game that you mentioned, became a 7 point game in the 3rd. The Bills pretty much had a 50/50 split between running and passing until it became a 2 score game again. The Bills had 3 drives down 7 that resulted in no points. I don’t know if you’re insinuating that Brady won’t be a HC in 2026. If that’s what you’re getting at, we strongly disagree. If we are asking if he’s done a great job this year, he has not. At the same time, they’ve piled up yards and points despite the receivers. Someone will certainly hire him as the head man. James Franklin is going to get another job!!

I’ll go 11-6 and a WC. They’ll win 1 playoff game.

I guess this is where there is so much disagreement on this board. What’s the floor for the Bills with this schedule and Josh Allen? If you hired an average coach from NCAA/NFL what’s the worst that they would be with this group? 11-6 maybe? They were the betting favorite in all 17 games prior to the year. It feels to me like “insert average coach here” and you’d win 11+. I fail to see the downside? That’s why I’ve been team make a change since 13 seconds. I believe lots and lots and lots of coaches could win the AFCE & a playoff game or 2 with Josh Allen and their schedule.

Not shocking after yesterday

Whether it does or doesn’t remains to be seen. It’s very clear though that the heat has turned up in the court of public opinion.

Which of these is better? a) 111 receptions (159 targets), 1,280 yards, 7 TDs, 11.53 YPC b) 63 receptions (93 targets), 1,041 yards, 5 TDs, 16.52 YPC

This was before the season!! Do you not remember or are you not familiar with the, now famous, “this isn’t fantasy football” conversation? That was before the Bills played a snap this year. This isn’t just the “angry after loss” situation. The heat has absolutely been turned up (specifically on Beane) for not helping Josh.

Oh man, they are the absolute worst!! I’m at war with them right now. Quick story that’s pretty insane. I sold my KC tickets on there (went with a friend). I pulled in my driveway Monday after a work dinner and got a push notification from Amex that I had a charge for the sale price of my tickets from Stubhub. I lost my damn mind. They claimed that the buyer never received the tickets. You are given an email address to auto upload the tickets when you list. That’s what I did. Not only have they not paid me for them they charged me the cost!! I went to the Bills the next day and had them pull the documentation from the ticketing system including the time that they were sent and the email address that they were sent to. They are still “investigating” what happened. This will be going on for 30 days apparently. They’re the worst!!

They haven’t needed to sell a single ticket since before Terry was the owner. The system is set up to be profitable regardless. They absolutely care about wining. Some more than others but every single one cares about winning. In fact, some of the owners that we consider the “worst” care about winning the most. It becomes, “what level of personal sacrifice are you willing to make, or are capable of making, to win?” That question varies by owner. I worked for an owner that was poor by ownership standards. He cared about winning as much as anyone that I knew. His partner, who he didn’t get along with, was considered rich by ownership standards. He too cared about winning way more than most. The difference was that the minority owner could make mistakes that the majority owner couldn’t because bankrolling those mistakes impacted him infinitely less.

I haven’t heard anything. That’s just speculation on my end. The public’s patience is wearing thin. We know Terry listens to WGR. Lol, he’s called in before.

They had a flawed offense with similar issues as now. They couldn’t make the play when they needed to because the receivers weren’t good enough. Obviously the defense wasn’t good enough and needed to get better. It just needed to come AFTER they addressed the offense. If someone has the energy I would love to see the investment made in offense vs. defense over the last 5 years in terms of FA dollars and draft capital. I did it a year or so ago with draft capital basically using the draft value points of each pick to show their investment. The defense was well ahead of the offense and that’s before they used their first 4 or 5 picks on defense this past year. That gap is getting even wider. It’s insanity.

They did come back against a bad Baltimore pass defense. They didn’t against Miami or Atlanta. They are not built to play from behind. They used to be but they aren’t now. If the Bills can’t run the ball and rush the passer, they’re a bad football team. If you’re behind, those are 2 things that you can’t really do. It shouldn’t have been a surprise yesterday to see Miami win the toss and take the ball. Everyone knows that’s the formula to beat the Bills. The Bills should have went on that 4th down on the 1st drive. Once they get down 2 scores they’re doomed. They are last in YPC allowed at 5.5 (tied with the Giants). They have the worst WRs in the league. If you want to make a case that they’re the 30th best or 31st best, go for it but you can’t make a reasonable case for more than that. So if teams get ahead, they run all over you. You’re forced to throw the ball and the only place that you can win is between the hashes 20 yards and in (sometimes WR screens too). Teams can take away your trash WRs and jam the middle of the field making it hard to win there. The “gameplan” to beat the Bills is simple. It’s REALLY simple. Now, can teams execute it is a different story. If the Bills get out in front they’re really tough.

The difference is that Josh Allen was playing as the best player in the world. If he regressed to “great player” this was going to be the result. The margin for error is nonexistent. The thought that, “it doesn’t matter who is out there because Josh will cover for them” is beyond flawed. They should have built a roster to turbocharge him. Instead they said, “we will focus ALL of our energy elsewhere and you can overcome it.” The Bills philosophy is the exact opposite of what it should be. It should be build around Josh and address everything else after that. The chose to try to focus on everything else and whatever is left can try to help Josh. It’s malpractice.

The issue isn’t, “can the Bills beat every NFL team?” That’s a yes. On any given day the Bills can beat any team in the NFL(and probably by multiple scores). The issue is, “can the Bills win 3 or 4 consecutive playoff games to win the title?” I don’t know how anyone can say yes at the point. They could have lost to Miami in the first matchup and got whooped by them the second time. The Saints were looking for the go ahead score late. They were pounded by Atlanta. It took a miracle to beat Baltimore. It isn’t a case of the Bills not being able to look good or win a game. It’s about them being too limited to win once the playoffs start. They can’t win from behind because their WRs suck and they can’t stop the run. So they need to throw to guys that aren’t open and try to stop teams from running despite giving up 5.5 YPC (or whatever it is now). You can’t have the worst WRs in the league AND give up the most YPC in the NFL. You can’t win 4 straight playoff games like that. The Bills can only win one way and that’s a major problem.

The culture. He came to a perennial loser and now they’re perennially a winner. I’m one of the last people on this board to give McDermott credit but he deserves some for that. Obviously, it is more tied to Josh but McDermott gets some. The public heat was turned way up even before the season. It’s only gotten worse. He’s absolutely not a lock to be back. He MAY be back but this isn’t like years past. He has been crushed publicly since April. What the public was worried about has come to fruition. I think it’s more likely than not that there’s someone else handling the roster this offseason.

I had 3 in my cart when I posted that on StubHub that were $96 each after fees. They weren’t very good.

Josh is about to be 30 (or is). You can’t wait a couple of years to do it.

Brady hasn’t been good. If we are asking, “what is worse Brady or the receivers” it’s the receivers by 8,000 miles. His scheme worked at LSU. It worked at Carolina and it worked last year with bad players. None of the Bills WRs have proven that they can consistently win. Not one has a track record of success. They’re the 32nd best WRs in the league. Brady hasn’t been good but he’s nowhere near the 32nd ranked OC.

I don’t know if he is or isn’t. It sure feels like the heat is turning up. He’s taking way more heat publicly than he has up until this point. My guess is McDermott is back unless this falls apart. He shouldn’t be back in my opinion. He did a nice job building the foundation and now it’s time for someone to take them over the top.

That’s the scary part. They’ve tried to keep it plugged together but may be time to be bold.

They literally are operating at 25% of the NIL of the big boys. If the big boys want someone, they get them. He could end up somewhere like Syracuse but not if Ohio State or Miami or Oregon or someone like that wants him. Unless they change the rules on NIL that’s the way it is.