Kirby Jackson

It’s more of a function of Johnston looking like the 1st rounder than a JAG. Ladd may never be a star but can be a rich man’s Edelman. He’s much more explosive than most slots. To your point though, he hasn’t done much yet this year.

Man, this conversation will never end. Yes, Worthy is a better player than Keon. He has also gotten dinged and doesn’t have Coleman’s frame. Coleman doesn’t look like a bust. He does look like “a” guy and not “the” guy. Worthy looks like a dynamic playmaker with a frame that is concerning (think prime Desean Jackson). The reality of the 2024 NFL Draft is that the Bills desperately need a WR in a great WR draft. They needed a dude and got a guy. Yes, they would have been better with Worthy or Ladd. They also could have done worse with Legette or AD Mitchell. There is no reason to continue beating this dead horse. They could have done better. They could have done worse.

I’m not a big “officiating” guy but thought about this a little and tried to post it in the game thread. After tonight, there will have been 64 NFL games played this year. That Bills/Saints game was the largest point spread of the season to this point. So, that game was considered the most lopsided game of the year, on paper. What level of officiating crew do you think gets assigned to the Saints/Bills at a 1:00 PM on a Sunday? I promise you, it’s not the same crew that works the Super Bowl. We have been spoiled over the last few years as we are often playing high profile games. That means we generally get the top guys. I know that they missed the spot in KC (twice) but usually the games are pretty well officiated. Yesterday, we got to see what it must look like for the Titans and Colts on a crisp November afternoon.

Or, or, or, what about, maybe they sign a guy to punt, that is an actual punter?

Help me understand the math behind that FG? 🤣🤣

We are in Week 4. After this week, there will have been 64 NFL games played. This game, according to Vegas, was considered the biggest mismatch of the 64 games. The Saints are in the red zone, in the 4th, with a chance to take the lead. Coaching

This might be blasphemous to the McDermott apologists but the Bills pay teams too much respect. They need more swagger. This game is the largest threat in the NFL this season. You should be ATTACKING on both sides of the ball. You should be trying to score 70 and challenge them to keep up. That’s how the Pats played. The Bills let teams hang around because they play to not lose instead of playing to win.

Gross

Got you. Ed Oliver’s contract contains $25K for every game that’s he’s on the roster. It also contains up to $750k in incentives. We don’t know what that looks like, but the Bills can always make that work. They certainly would rather pay him $100k or whatever than have him try to earn it and get hurt worse. Milano does have playing time and performance incentives. The Bills put those in because he’s consistently been hurt. He probably loses out on that. Spencer Brown has a per game active bonus that he may lose out on (or the Bills could make it up elsewhere). In 2025, players don’t decide if they’re playing or not. That’s a decision made by the medical staff. The Bills will be, and should be, conservative at this point. You’re beating the Saints whether those guys are playing or not.

I had a buddy that was a scout for the Falcons (he’s with the Bears now). He gave us his tickets. I was supposed to fly from New Orleans to Dallas that day for work. Instead of the 1 hour direct flight, I booked a 10 hour layover in Atlanta so that work would cover the travel. 🤣 So I had free tickets and a free flight. It felt like I had to go. Boyst and I were texting. He was coming in from North Carolina. We got in and Chris Tucker was maybe 2 or 3 rows behind us. This was the game Jerry Hughes ran the fumble in. The Bills were a 7.5 point underdog. We were loud but, pretty respectful by our standards.🤣🤣 He was like,”ghgee, ghgee, ghgee, maaaann sitown.” 🤣🤣 So then we started telling him that we are sorry that we had to come in and put down this beating. The playful banter went back and forth (for a while). It was extremely innocent. This wasn’t a stadium fight video. It was just joking around. It was mostly us throwing in a couple of jabs followed by a compliment as to how great Rush Hour 2 was or a question about what it was like to be friends with Michael Jackson. 🤣🤣 Also, @boyst was making some progress on a lonely housewife sitting a row in front of us. Her and her friend had brought their children. I’m not sure what happened after the game because I had to get back to the airport so that I could get to Dallas.

This is a “Billsy” mentality. It’s okay to be confident. This isn’t your older brother’s Bills. The Bills are currently the betting favorite in all remaining games. This week they are the biggest favorite of any NFL team this year. They currently are -175 in Vegas to be the 1 seed!! They are really good and their schedule is trash. Last week was one of the worst games they’ll play this year. In this era, they have a couple of games a year where they aren’t at their best (Houston last year for example). They still won by 10 points. If this Bills team loses more than 4 games, Josh must have missed time. Looking at that schedule, that’s about the most that they can lose. They can play badly, like last week, and still win. That’s a luxury. That’s what good teams do. It’s okay to admit that the Bills are there. And, yes, the division is an absolute foregone conclusion after 3 weeks. That’s not the competition anymore. They are -2000 to win the AFCE!! 🤣🤣 Lol, do you feel differently?!? So, the only focus IS the 1 seed at this point. If the Bills go 14-3 or 13-4, as is extremely likely, Baltimore can either lose 0 or 1 more game to have a shot (depending on if the Bills finish with 3 or 4 losses). They’re virtually eliminated from the 1 now. KC almost certainly ends up with 5+ losses. Their schedule is tough. They aren’t a threat. There’s a world where the Colts or Chargers COULD get the 1 seed. The Colts schedule is really easy. For that to happen, this Daniel Jones thing has to be real. If, GIANT IF, the Chargers or Colts somehow get the 1, be healthy at that time of year. If you can’t go into LA or Indy and win a playoff game, you aren’t the team that we thought you were. The Bills would be a 4 or 5 point favorite at the Chargers and 6+ at Indy in this scenario. So yes, the regular season, at this point, isn’t a huge deal if you handle your business. You’ll need to play at least B+ football to beat Tampa, KC & Philly. In every other game, if Josh is healthy, you should be fine by getting off the bus. You may drop one or two because you were awful (like Houston last year). That still won’t prevent you from being worse than at least 13-4. The reality is the schedule is just ridiculously easy. It’s time for us to stop being paranoid and start having that swagger that the Pats had for years. They weren’t worried about getting by Miami in October. 🤣🤣 It didn’t matter!! They worried about how to play for the Lombardi. That’s where we are. It’s not blind arrogance. It’s reality. In conclusion, be ultra conservative now, because, at worst, you will be hosting a playoff game. The likeliest scenario, according to odds, BY A LOT (-175), is that you’re looking at the bye.

Cardinals are a tough watch. I don’t like anything about the way they play.

Again, I’m going to continue because we can’t have misinformation on here. You can’t just make more stuff up and call it fact. At the beginning of the 2023 season, MHJ was clocked at 22.22 MPH on a TD vs. YSU. That was faster than any NFL player ran in 2022!! He is a 4.3-4.4 guy at 6’3” 220 lbs. His speed is elite at his size. His agility is also considered elite. I can post the scouting reports if you want? I’d rather not have to continue the fact checking. This place works much better when we have discussion based on facts and in reality. Harrison has been incredibly underwhelming for his talent in the NFL. He has been a bad receiver and should be elite. He was an elite, and incredibly clean prospect. He had production, measurables and pedigree. That is all true. Please do not make stuff up and try to pass it off as true.

Exactly

You’re making stuff up now. He has absolutely been underwhelming. He’s been straight bad this year. I am not disputing how he has played. He looks horrible. I am disputing the misinformation that’s you’re spreading about him being a “flawed” prospect or an “overrated college player.” That’s just not true. He was an incredibly clean prospect with elite measurables, performance and pedigree.

Lol, this isn’t true. 🤣🤣 He was an elite prospect and an incredibly clean prospect.

I’m clearly biased but he’s as good of a prospect as I’ve seen at the position. I saw every single snap that he took in college. There was nothing overrated about him coming out. He was so dominant in college. He was the best of Wilson, Olave, JSN, Egbuka, McLaurin, etc… Jeremiah Smith has passed him but he was a man against boys. With that being said, I agree that he looks lost. He’s so checked out. He has drops. He’s running the wrong routes. It has been a disaster but it isn’t because he lacks talent.

It is my favorite stadium in the league that I’ve been to. The atmosphere was a little stale because it is Atlanta and pretty transient. They aren’t die hard but the stadium is beautiful. I went with @boyst and we talked trash to Chris Tucker the whole game.

Based on those numbers, Kraft is getting $720M for an 8% stake. I did a little research. That $720M would get him 12,203,389 30-minute “massages” or 9,113,924 60-minute “massages” at, the now closed, Orchids of Asia (at least as of their most recent pricing guide).

I think that they both get in. I don’t want to speak for @FireChans but I think that his point is, “if neither player plays another game, Lamar gets in. Josh may or may not get in.” I’m not sure that is even arguable. While I agree that Josh is the better player, Lamar has a better HOF resume at this point.

I think that the Bills go 14-3 or 13-4. The Ravens, win or lose, can either have no losses or 1 more loss if that happens to get the 1 seed. That’s not happening. I suppose that they COULD get to like 12-5 but that’s not close to good enough for the 1. That Lions game the other day was huge. As far as I’m concerned, that buried them.

100% agree which is why I’ve been saying that we want the Ravens to win this weekend. It’s still very unlikely that they catch, and pass, the Bills. We want them to end up as the 2 or 3 seed I think (assuming that they don’t collapse and miss the playoffs which looks highly unlikely). The 1-3 Chiefs are way less likely to be a playoff team than the 1-3 Ravens.

Yep. I think that they can add and subtract a body or 2 this offseason. Maybe take a mid round flyer on a toolsy prospect without the production. They can get another FA in the Palmer/Samuel tier to be in the rotation. In 2027, you look for the alpha. I’m not opposed, at all, to dealing our 1st this year for another the following year. If things fall right, you could land the guy on a rookie deal.

I posted it earlier in the thread but feel like it warrants it’s own post. The Chiefs are currently -200 to make the playoffs. The Ravens are currently -1200. I think that’s important context.

The interesting thing about the 2018 class is that, a lot of us wanted to wait for the 2018 class even before the 2017 draft. It was thought of as one of the greatest classes ever a year in advance. It is like the 2027 WR class looks like. Others like@GunnerBill and @thebandit27 wanted to make a move on 2017. To Bandit’s credit he was ALL IN on Mahomes before people were even talking about him as a potential 1st rounder. It would probably be an interesting look in the archives to pull up the conversations that we were having back then about the Bills finding their QB of the future.