Kirby Jackson

It seems inevitable but maybe Arizona is just throwing that out to create artificial demand? The Vikings are desperate. Maybe they can use that desperation to do what you suggested with the Giants? Maybe they can get them to panic, slide up 2 spots & Cards still get the WR? I just can’t wrap my head around being desperate for McCarthy 😂. He doesn’t have the measurables. His ball placement is spotty. He’s not quick through progressions. His arm is average. He isn’t a great athlete. We like that he won? Lol, so we are trading 3 firsts for a guy with average tools and average numbers because he won a lot with elite talent around him? Brock Purdy Syndrome

I think that it’s POSSIBLE that you could give them something like 28, 128, 2025 1st and the Minnesota 2025 2nd. The fact that it’s the Vikings pick that we got for Diggs is helpful. If Darnold is their QB most people probably think that pick is in the top 10 of the round. If they think that the Bills regress a little they might be thinking: 28th this year, 128th, 20ish and 40ish next year. That’s starting to get warmer. Of course they’ll throw out a big ask but if you put that offer on the table I think that they’d say yes. They’re trying to create a bidding war for McCarthy (which is hilarious to me).

I think that it is certainly doable for the Bills. You can sell 2, max 3 games, and pay for your season. It’s the Sabres people selling 25 games that they have an issue with. Also, in hockey/basketball/baseball the demand is opponent based. With the Bills the interest and pricing is more Bills based. Yes, KC brings more money than Denver but Denver still has massive demand. Every game before Thanksgiving has big demand. When you sell a Leafs ticket it’s WAY more likely to end up in the hands of a Leafs fan than a Broncos ticket is to end up in the hands of a Broncos fan.

With the 11th overall pick, the Minnesota Vikings select Jared Verse, Edge, Florida State. @mannc and the Chicago Bears are on the clock. The Vikings tried to get into the top 3 to secure their QB of the future. When it became apparent that would be difficult they shifted their focus to 1 of the next 2 most important positions in football. With Hunter heading to Houston, the Vikings reload with Verse on a rookie deal. We saw the success that Houston had with a rookie pass rusher in 2023 and we took our version. He has great burst and can get after the QB. It was value meets need at an impactful (and expensive position).

The Vikings are open for business. If any GMs are interested, PM me your offers. We will give it 45 minutes (unless we have an offer that we like) and then make a pick to not drag this out too far.

Yeah, it’s not realistic and kind of stupid. He just doesn’t buy the tickets in his name. There isn’t like some FBI software to identify you or anything though. He said that he goes all of the time. I think he’s not supposed to go to any NFL stadiums but don’t remember. The Bills probably don’t really care either. They had to issue the “ceremonial ban” to discourage others from being so creative.

He is but still goes all of the time he said. They used to have these little cards on the tables there with like a bio of your server. It said, “I was once featured in a Barstool Documentary.” I asked him about it. It was invigorating. Lol, I had him sign the card. Now every time that I’m in there I make him tell the story to whoever I’m with. My boss was in town a couple of months ago and Austin (that’s his name) told the story to him. His takeaway was that I’m an idiot. He’s a Pats fan. My girlfriend was in there with a couple friends a few weeks ago and told him that I’m his biggest fan 😂😂.

Lol, fun fact. The ***** guy is a waiter at Giancarlo’s!! I might be his biggest fan 😂😂. I got his autograph 😂😂.

You can be a whole different level of petty 😂😂😂. I respect it 😂😂.

Lol, you could have sat at 12 and picked McCarthy. The Vikings aren’t interested. He sucks. 😂😂

I agree 100% with this. McConkey can play the boundary and is polished. He can take targets early. Honestly of all of the guys that we talk about, with the exception of the top 3, he’s most capable of volume.

I haven’t seen this out there but really liked it!! You got a “bust proof” superstar at a position of need. You did it at a good rate. Loved it

He’s a little bit of both. Size and athletically he’s basically identical to Garrett Wilson. There are stereotypes with guys that look like him 😂😂. He can play either place. He reminds me of Diggs honestly. The Antonio Brown comparisons are reasonable as well.

Kind of love it!! Well done. Push your chips in and get superstars

I went through yesterday and posted some of the the things learned up thread. The club seats will almost certainly sell out. They have sold out of the $50k Founders Club Seats (450 of them). There are 5500 seats in the East Club which is the equivalent of the sideline clubs now. There are currently about 8500 seats that are similar. They have the new club which is lower level between the 40’s and that’s the $15k. Those aren’t covered or heated but include food and Pepsi products. They won’t have trouble with those. We waited on locations within the East Club hoping that the PSL will drop as you move away from midfield. They didn’t have locations for us outside of the 20’s yet so that may in fact be the plan. They did not have the pricing for any other PSLs yet. I’m sure that there are models that are nimble to hit revenue targets. So far though, they’re absolutely on schedule which is good for those that haven’t come up yet. In terms of the reps being in their mid 20’s, that’s who sells sports tickets. It’s an entry level sales job where you can make good money before transitioning to a more lucrative sales career (insurance, medical, tech, etc). I’m not sure about the interest free period. I heard 3 years with 20% down. The next payment was to be due in June. In regards to the timing they are spending about 45 minutes per group. There were 2 other groups in there with us at the same time. I believe that the 3 of us were staggered 15 minutes apart (like a tee time). They want each group to spend some time with the model understanding it before you go into locations. Hope that helps!!

Don’t you worry about the Vikings 😜

I agree to a degree. It isn’t linear though. They had a draft guy on WGR this morning and he said that these 3 WRs are the 3 highest graded WRs over the last 3 drafts. In other words, they would have been the first one off the board last year or in 2022. I don’t think 1 out of 3 guys with their draft grades bust. They just happen to be in the same draft.Those top 3 guys all grade out favorably to Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Addison, JSN, Flowers, London, Dotson, and Jameson Williams. Now if you want to say of: Mitchell, Coleman, Worthy, Franklin, McConkey, Legette, etc… 2 or 3 will bust, I’ll buy it. That’s part of the reason that I’m fine with the capital to go all of the way up. By spending the capital you’re all but assuring yourself of production. Now you might not get the best of the 3 but you’ll get a good player.

Just to be clear no one is “defending it” just accepting it. Also, if you’re making $22 and hour, you shouldn’t be buying a PSL. You absolutely aren’t buying a PSL now. If you’re making $22 an hour, having season tickets now is a stretch.

Matt Harmon was on WGR like a month ago and went through separation stats for college receivers and how it translated. Of the people that got similar separation to Coleman ONLY Collins was any good. It was guys like Bryan Edwards and some others. Basically 5% of guys like him have succeeded. FWIW, Johnny Wilson is even worse. I’m not trying to beat “math” when there are so many other viable options. I don’t see this as a Josh situation in terms of raw either. I’ll take raw in a guy like Legette that separates. The floor is FAR too low with Coleman for a team that HAS to get production immediately.

Xavier Thomas was once one of the top 5 recruit. He has elite tools and minimal production. I’d buy that lottery ticket with one of those 4ths all day long. He could end up being really good. He might suck. I’ll gamble on talent with question marks in the back half of the draft.

With the exception of Coleman those are my least favorite “options” at 28 and 60. The Bills need to account for almost 200 targets between the two guys that they add. A poor route runner and a guy that takes plays off don’t scream volume. Wilson has speed but is a poor route runner. Some people like him but I don’t think that he’s quick enough for a guy that size. He’s competitive and has some speed but a lot of guys do in this class. He hasn’t really produced at a high level either. He’d been fine. I’d be okay with him in the 4th but would much rather have someone like Pearsall at the same pick. Mitchell is inconsistent. He has the ability of an elite number 1. He has the production of a talented guy that takes plays off. He’s good when he wants to be. If you’re going to be the alpha in the WR room you better set the tone. Diggs and Gabe were two of the hardest workers on the team. Mitchell isn’t that guy (although Wilson is). I will support wherever the board ends up and hope that I’m wrong if it is Coleman, Wilson, and/or Mitchell.

Why do people keep telling me Roman Wilson is good? What am I missing? Also, AD Mitchell gives me George Pickens vibes. The ability is there when he wants it to be. He doesn’t feel like the type of person that the Bills want as the alpha in the WR room.

I think that they do have some people like that but it’s a rounding error in terms of how many. I don’t know how they’ll handle it. I also don’t know how NY would get the data unless the Bills supported it? The Sabres situation is being driven by the Sabres with the “cover” of NY’s law. That’s the only way that the state would have the data. If you recall the Sabres tried to limit single game purchasing to certain zip codes prior. It didn’t work but there’s history of them trying to control who comes in.

I think a vet is possible as the 2nd option. I do think though, in 2024, WRs transition in pretty seamlessly. If one of the guys that they draft is a great route runner (like McConkey for example) I think that guy will see a lot of balls. If they go with raw physical skills (like Coleman for example) that guy won’t see volume early on. That’s some good for thought that really didn’t dawn on me until responding. If the Bills do have 200ish targets to go around there are certain prospects more capable of taking on a heavy target share early.

My numbers had already account for Diggs’ targets to drop by like 35. I’m sorry. I misunderstood. I haven’t read the whole thread. I thought that you were advocating waiting until the 4th to add their 1st WR. I think that it’s reasonable to wait until the 4th to try to add the 2nd guy. I wouldn’t but that’s not insane. That holds especially true if they go up for one of the big 3. I don’t think Javon Baker makes it to the 4th but he would be amazing. There are guys in that range that have different skill sets. The Bills picked the right draft to be desperate for WR help. This draft is LOADED at the position.