Kirby Jackson

I think I would have too.

Shaheed would have cost the Bills like a 3rd and 6th probably (or something like that). The 4th and 5th wouldn’t have been quite enough. That’s a move that I probably would have made as well but it isn’t a no brainer.

BTJ for sure. There were others I’m certain but those I know of.

Again, I’m asking, “which specific move AND at what price would you have done?”

There were multiple negotiations. There was checking in as well but they were exchanging offers on some.

I had heard things early in the day. The Bills were very active. Again, I don’t know where their line was on respective deals but they were in negotiations on multiple trades.

Lol, no. That’s not my opinion, at all. 🤣🤣 You tell me the specific deals that you would have made and we can discuss. I’m on record as willing to pay that 4th and 5th for Shaheed. I’m assuming the Bills would have needed more as those picks will probably be later than Seattle’s. Maybe I would have paid the 4th & 5th needed for Meyers. Otherwise, there wasn’t a deal to be done that we know about. They were trying to get BTJ. I don’t know what the compensation would have been but there’s certainly a line. My line might have been past Beane’s (eg: I might have tried for that Shaheed deal) but there’s no such thing as “whatever the cost is.” If they wanted 2 firsts for BTJ (for example) no way. So I’m asking you, and everyone else in the “do something” camp to be really specific as to what you would have done AND where your line was on those deals?

There’s always a deal to be had but does it make sense? We don’t know what they were offering on Wilson or Waddle or Olave. If the Dolphins said, 2 1’s for Waddle would you do it? That’s too rich for me. I would have for Wilson but apparently they didn’t want to deal with division teams (guessing that was the Pats too). The Bills are one of the best few teams in football. The only contenders that improved today are Seattle, Philly and Indy. It’s not like the elite teams all improved while the Bills stayed still. I’ve been pounding the table to “make a move” as much as anyone. There wasn’t one that moved the needle.

100% agree. They better hope Jones is the guy. If not, they’ll be looking for a QB with no ammo.

Lots of activity today and some major moves. Of the Bills competition the Colts got better but gave up a ton for Sauce. Other than that, it feels like the NFC teams really improved more. I’m on record as thinking that the Bills had to add a boundary WR. The Shaheed comp felt doable but probably had to pay a higher price than Seattle based on where the picks will be. Otherwise, it doesn’t seem like a deal was there to be had. I know that the Bills were active and that’s what I ask of them. Don’t be too arrogant to think that you’re good enough in a spot where you clearly suck. They made the calls and tried to make deals. It takes 2 to tango and you have to be smart. I’m not going to hold this deadline against Beane. Now, it may blow up in his face if they fall short of the Super Bowl but he did try.

@Paup 1995MVP in the hypothetical world where Garrett Wilson is available, what’s your best offer?

Deebo is built like me in my mid 40’s 🤣🤣

They were always the 2 best names discussed. It could be a Ridley and Sweat/Simmons combination too

He has some health concerns (as do all of the guys we are discussing). The reality is, he instantly is the best WR with the possible exception of Shakir. Is he Justin Jefferso? No. Is he Keon Coleman? Also no.

It certainly could be a part of it. Adding Meyers certainly makes trading BTJ more likely.

Hancock is much more likely to be a part of the core moving forward than Strong. It may be at slot or it may be at S.

I once heard a GM (Dell Demps) say that only like 5-10% of the things discussed ever leak out (or some low number like that). Lol, I don’t remember the specifics but the point was there are always “feelers.” When you get to trade deadlines or drafts, they become more real because there is a natural “expiration date.” The Bills are definitely engaged in discussions and BTJ isn’t the only one. Will any of it come to fruition? Who knows, but they’re on the phone.

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I don’t know the details or if it will even get done. It’s certainly possible or they wouldn’t be in discussion. That means they’re at least in the ballpark at this point. Maybe the Bills part with a first or it’s some sort of swap? Totally spitballing here and have no knowledge of the compensation discussion but maybe something like: BTJ and a 3rd or 4th for Coleman and a 1st? The Jags have a late 3rd (or it least it looks like it on the chart). If the Bills offered their 1st and Keon for BTJ and that late 3rd, the value of the difference would be 500 points. That’s the equivalent of the 40th pick. It would basically be pick 40 and Keon for BTJ. If the Jags drew the line at a 4th, that becomes the equivalent of the 34th pick. Again, I made that return up but these are the kinds of things that they’re probably working on. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Yes

Don’t know if anything will come of it but there’s some BTJ chatter.

I am no McDermott fan but the FG was 100% the right decision. When you get a chance to end the game, you take it.

There is a world, albeit unlikely, where he has the most rushing TDs ever. It would require him to play another 10ish years and keep going att the current rate. He’s 92 away. Let’s say he gets 5 more this year (feels reasonable). That would have him at 77 and he’d need 87 more. 10 years at 8.7 per year and he’s the all-time leader.

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