Kirby Jackson

FYI, I was at a charity event last night and a pair of tickets in the 45 yard-line sold for $2100 (I think was the final number). I know that it’s charity but still that’s a big number. For about 2 seconds I considered selling my seats and taking a couple from work. I wouldn’t miss it but we have a bunch of clients coming. It would be annoying to “entertain” but seats in my section are all listed > $500!! That’s insane. I want so little to do with mixing work & Bills that I declined. The Bills are my sanctuary. This is the thing that I do for me. At Bills games I ONLY want to go, and be around, passionate Bills fans. That’s why I love y’all!! This team matters to us differently.

Yep!! Andrew Luck was great too but he sounded like an ogre

I’m not planning to say disparaging things about another QB to prop Josh up. I think Josh Allen is fantastic. I think that Patrick Mahomes is too. Justin Herbert is great but is less accomplished at this point. They are all a little different but QBs that you can consistently win with. Bills fans, Chiefs fans and Chargers fans should be thrilled.

I made 3 preseason bets to cover the cost of my Super Bowl Trip. Bills - Eagles (smallest bet at 40:1), Bills-Saints (middle sized at 70:1) and Bills - Vikings (largest at 80:1). I have a few other season long parlays that look better today than they did Saturday. I bet the EXACT AFC East finish as Bills-Dolphins-Jets-Pats at 18:1. I bet Bills 1st, Miami 2nd at +300. I bet New England 4th at +400 and New England under 8.5 wins. Going to need to win a few after the Broncos performance this evening 😂😂.

He would almost certainly come with. He was offered by a bunch of big schools (Alabama, Florida, FSU, etc). GT was on that list as well. It’s probably a package deal.

What a 🗑 program. They play someone next week that’s going to kill them too (Oklahoma). I’m assuming that Frost makes it to October 1st when his buyout goes down by $7.5M (I think). The damage is done though. That program is done. We are past the time of that program being able to “bounce back.” These kids weren’t alive when the Huskers were relevant. They are Kansas with a bigger stadium and more loyal (football) fans. Define different? Ohio State CONSISTENTLY has top 5 recruiting classes, recruit nationally and are a blue-blood program that never slips. Now if your suggestion is that they will fall to 5-10 we will disagree but it’s reasonable. If your suggestion is that they will fall further, that’s absurd. In the era of NIL that’s impossible. Ohio State will NEVER fall outside of the top 7 or 8 programs like Michigan did. The alumni won’t let that happen. The have elite recruiting, resources, reputation and success.

My 1st impression is that I’m not going to overreact. Cook was brought here to hit home runs. You’ll see him used more in close games I would imagine. He isn’t here to grind and to protect big leads. He’s here to change the game with big plays. Motor will shoulder the load in the backfield. Moss and Cook will be worked in depending on the situation. They each have different roles to play. I will analyze their play based on how well they performed their specific roles.

I’m over anyone, being compared to anything, that Allen does. He is 1-of-1. He’s a unicorn. Everyone (that doesn’t know what they were watching) says, “but Allen wasn’t good his first two years.” Your guy isn’t going to get there. Your guy isn’t physically talented enough to take that leap. That’s why Tua gets dragged in these conversations. These are the people shouting down the “but Tua was better than Allen his first 2 years guy.” The “Tua was better first 2 years guy” has been trying to make the case that he may make a similar jump. Those shouting him down are pointing to certain plays as evidence as to why he won’t ever come close to that level. He can’t make the throw that Josh made from a clean pocket. Allen did it at 13.6 MPH.

The Bills were just okay. The Bills played a B- game. The Bills beat the defending Super Bowl Champs, in their house, by 3 TDs.

Thanks!! I’ll try

I appreciate it!! It’s my own fault. I was told to text him and I didn’t. Now he got rid of the extras and it’s sold out 🤦🏻‍♂️. I’ll figure it out.

No it wasn’t. Beckham was looking at a 200 yard game with at least 1 score. He was running away with it.

Hermosa Beach is the party tonight. Every place is full of Bills fans. We will be represented but not like Nashville or some other games.

Does anyone have an extra tailgate ticket? It’s sold out and I forgot to text my buddy to get one. Now our whole group has them except me. If anyone has an extra please PM me. I’d appreciate it.

Nice topic Joe!!! - Allen’s 37 passing TDs - Allen’s 284 YPG (similar to your passing yards stat) - Bass longest FG in franchise history (don’t know the number but it is in jeopardy) - Bass 141 points in a season - MAYBE Bill Brooks 11 TD receptions is in jeopardy

That’s why I think he will play out the year with a contender instead of sitting out the year as some have suggested. He needs to prove that he’s healthy if he wants someone to cut the big check next year. It’ll be interesting. He was going to be the Super Bowl MVP. Don’t read into that fake nonsense. NO TEAM is in position to turn their noses to OBJ. The defending Super Bowl Champs have left his locker open in an attempt to recruit him back. Don’t overthink it. It isn’t complicated. The only people buying into that media-generated narrative are simpletons. The Bills will add him in 1 second if he is healthy and the price is right. That holds true for every contender in the league. KC is a (dangerous) sleeper IMO if he’s ready to go.

There are some interesting thoughts in this thread (both that I agree and disagree with). OBJ can still dominate. He was going to be the Super Bowl MVP and remind everyone of how good he can be. Does he take a short-term deal with a contender (ie Bills or Rams) to try to compete for a Super Bowl? Is that too risky? That’s an interesting thought. My guess is that he does sign with one of those teams (or Tampa or Baltimore, etc). Next offseason he will try to get one last contract. He absolutely not a bottom of the depth chart guy. He can still dominate. OBJ is a guy that will be getting 8-10 targets a game. Cleveland was a disaster. He was back to being good when he got to the Rams. He caught 25 balls in 3.5 playoff games. OBJ is a winner. He will be an important piece of whichever team he goes to this year. It’ll be interesting to see, if he signs a decent deal this off-season, with a bad team. Will he be motivated to play for the Pats/Jets/Lions/Falcons/etc?

I think that someone quantified it well earlier. They used the “5 tool” example for a baseball player. RAS is a big part of it. It’s the ability to do things that others cannot physically do. It does not mean that you do it regularly. For example, Josh Allen, can do certain things that very few QBs ever could do. He is not one of the best QBs ever (at least at this point). The Thurman example is a good one. There aren’t many things that he did that most other NFL backs can’t do. He did them more consistently. That’s why he’s in the HOF. OJ, Allen, Bruce and a few others COULD make certain plays that very few other NFL players are capable of making.

Thurman is one of my favorite Bills ever; he was great. I’m shocked to see so many people listing him among “the most talented players in franchise history.” He was a 2nd round pick for a reason. He wasn’t fast. He wasn’t big. He was really smart and versatile. He would be on the short list of people that “did more with less” than anyone else. I don’t know how accurate this is but he was a “meh” athlete. His 40 time is faster than I would have thought but he didn’t play at that speed. https://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=26190

Even if OJ had TERRIBLE production, he would still be a viable answer to the question. The question isn’t about resumè it is about talent. I half-jokingly put a picture of Reggie Bush up there earlier. I have more rushing yards in a Bills uniform than Reggie Bush. He is one of the most physically gifted players to ever play for this, or any, franchise. He never lived up to his ceiling but the talent was always there.

That’s totally fair. Appreciate the thoughtful response!!

I played golf with Butch Byrd in the Bills alumni golf tournament in July (humble brag). He’s a SUPER nice guy. His perspective on certain people was interesting (but not surprising). He left us with his number to connect before the game in LA this week. He will be out there with family.

Kelly was incredibly tough. Is he tougher than Allen? Kelly had a big arm. Allen might have the biggest arm ever. There is literally nothing that Kelly could do that Allen can’t. There are lots of things that Allen can do that Kelly couldn’t. Talent-wise it isn’t a conversation. I wouldn’t have Kelly in the top 10 most talented Bills ever. He might not be in the top 20. Again, talent and accomplishment aren’t interchangeable.

Ben Volin LOVES to troll Pats fans. He’s pretty honest. He hypes the Bills, a lot, to get under their skin. His intent was to get a bunch of Massholes to tell him to “eff off.” He got his wish…

Are you answering most impactful or most talented? If it’s most “talented,” what, PHYSICALLY, does Kelly do better than Allen? If the answer is, nothing (which it might be) this isn’t much of a debate. Kelly’s talent isn’t in the same stratosphere as Allen’s.