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Why? What has he done to garner your's or their interest? He's Rob Johnson all over again, IMO.

EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT.....Thaddeus Lewis will be the starter for the Bills this week. Coach Marrone announced it on WGR550. Have at it...

What are your expectations of a 1st year QB in the NFL? EJ was developing just fine until this unfortunate injury, IMO. I will add he's on pace or better than last years class of QB's at this point statistically...the Seahawks brought Wilson along rather slowly last year depending heavily on the run & dominating defensive scheme. So what do you think our "stellar" new toy should realistically be doing to meet your expectations?

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Somehow I think, this will be the week that FJ & CJ will be paired in the backfield together, to keep the Jets D off-balanced.

OMG!!!!!!! Its the first game with a new OC...give them some time to work together!!! Jeez!!!!

T Jax...oops.

Not knowing the defensive scheme or call for the game but Troup looked very explosive & powerful coming off the ball. At the P.O.A. he was pushing the OL 2-3 yds off the L.O.S., that's something I rarely saw from any of our D-lineman on a consistent basis...great job of coaching by the assistant coaches, IMO.

Must be a very slow day indeed...Can we wait til they at least start hitting other teams much less let a season play out? I know you're all giddy about the new D but his former boss was very critical of the DC's lack of aggression in key situations last year. Now this could be deflection but this year Rex assures the fan base that they're going to return to the aggressive nature of the past. So I'll defer on our new DC until we actually play the game for real & monitor his strategies and adjustment under fire. But hell if he becomes a hot commodity we're all the better because that means that we are winning some games...yay!!! :thumbsup:

Well at least they have something to show for making what is describe as a "mistake"...As a lifelong fan of this organization, I could live with a few down years after a SB ring.

LOL...I'll edit.I was rushing a bit in my response clearly...gotta love it!

Gotcha! But just because I have a modest number of posts doesn't mean that I'm new to this site. I have learned to read the comments before I post a redundant response . I know that's a novel concept on most message boards but I defer... BTW,I try to be the voice of reason, thank you.

Since you're being critical of others...are you sure it's "say" or did you mean to say, "it read(s)". Anyway who cares how the coach responds to the mundane questions he's answering at nausea during the off-season? As long as the 53 guys he fields on game day understand and we win...mission accomplished. I really started to feel bad for the questions being asked by the local media to coaches, draft picks and free agents/ journeyman being acquired by the team...I tell ya every time I hear, " How do you like being picked up by the team?", "What do you think about the city?", "Are you excited about being a Bill?". It's like they're waiting for the guy to say something bad or something to justify the region as being second rate. Our image crisis is self inflicted, IMO.

Why is it assumed that Byrd doesn't want to be here? These guys will play where the money is... BTW, your reference to Peters holdout & subsequent contract with the Eagles actually supports Byrd's and his agents bone of contention...get the money while you can because the next play can be their last. The Bills have to decide if they're "serious" about building a competitive team. They have cap space plus the amnesty clause for previous cap room...give the guy a legit offer and move on. Bills fan have waited long enough, "Pay the man..."

Here's Coach Marrone with Tim Brando nice...

Thank you for this...I used similar reasoning to come to the conclusion that EJ was the highest rated QB in this class.

Let just see how Hackett and Marrone plan you use the guy. I'm pretty sure they evaluated him a heck of a lot more than some "draft guru", "expert" or fan blog. Seeing that they had the pick of the litter, there must have been something they saw in him... Most of these reports are so static as if EJ isn't still evolving...he finished the year with a great showing in there bowl game and senior bowl. Also something has to be said about a 25-6 record with a team that was marginal before his tenure. Now if ball security was the argument here I'd understand but all the back & forth here isn't gonna change a thing. The Bills have there guy lets build him up instead of acting like he's reached his ceiling...just a thought.

You do know that FSU plays a pro style offense, right? How many college QB's display or are exposed to pro style defense and they're complexities while ...still in college? FSU's offense is very complex, as a matter of fact he showed his flexibility and intelligence when the OC added different scheme's read-option formations mid season. He's accustom to hard coaching and a student of the game. I see absolutely NO CORRELATION between EJ and JP...Let's Go Bills!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^ This !!!! Thank you!!!! You can't make this Shesh Up... :wallbash:

The thing about most of these " draft guru's" and their grades is that these guys base the prospects abilities by some perceived generic model. Not, what the team and/or coaching staff has planned for each position (they're not privy to this info...) and the required traits & abilities, case in point Seattle's last year draft grades by these "guru's" were graded low and look how that turned out...Now this year when the Seahawks picked a player not highly publicized its considered shrewd & intelligent ... Its for entertainment purposes only these guys are laughable. A better gauge of the draft is usually after a few years but if instant gratification is really your desire, at least let the season play out before they start calling players a "reach". Just a thought...btw I think the Bills got the BPA at QB and had a solid draft (initial opinion). Now let's see how the coaches plan on using their talent & abilities.

This ^^^^^^^, thanks for the post. I am taking a very cautious approach after my unsubstantiated optimism after last year FA'cy but I love to hear positive sign from my team. Keep it coming Bills... I just can't tolerate some of the "loser's" mentality from some, whose lives are probably just as miserable, smh...

I want Manuel. The Bills - Barkley (if he's still on the board). If not I see a trade down and them picking either BPA (regardless of position) or Either Guard- Womack or Cooper, btw the latter would not be that bad, IMO.

Ok. I understand and see your point.

You're missing the point. Staying on the topic regardless of sport /BPA , your scouts/evaluators/decision makers rate or grade potential talent for whatever sport entering they're draft year. These players should be rated and ranked according to their abilities to play in the league. From there you ID if they are Group1- 4 or whatever their grading system maybe...I agree with your NBA reference but you actually are proving my point. In the NBA (not trying to stray off topic) draft as you stated a team with the #1 pick would trade the overall pick in a heartbeat if the highest rank player at the time of selection isn't graded in either of the identifiable groups. In that league there are teams that trade 1st rd picks for 2nd's...Now if a game changer or difference maker is available then heck NO but you're actually supporting my stance...btw Anthony Davis is a PF and D. Howard is a center.

Most GM's believe in this philosophy ( btw, so do I) but the dilemma occurs when in your grading of players your position of need is not in this grouping. So the problem exist, do you reach for a player(regardless of the grading) just because you're deficient? I say NO!!! If the player in a position of need is not ID's as a potential NFL, NBA or NHL talent don't grade higher than your scouts & evaluators. Just because you have a need at that position does not quantify this reasoning, IMO. Here's my thoughts about this approach: 1- Group 1- players grade as NFL starters regardless of position. If this group has a player or position of need and the player grades higher than our returning starter. If this player is available when our pick come then that's the selection. (these are potential game-changer or difference makers) 2- Group 1- players are graded as NFL starters regardless of position. A player or position of need is not rated as a NFL starter. Then you select the player with the highest grade. Only problem that could factor here is that you have the depth in this position that you have ID as the potential pick...you could look to trade or see if another team is interested but its a good problem to have. (these are potential game-changers or difference makers) 3- Group 2- players ID as potential starters but need development. If this is the case with all things being equal a position of need should be a determining factor in the selection. 4- Group 3- players ID as good depth or special team qualities and so on... After doing your due diligence and rating of players. Create your board and trust in the scouts or evaluators because first of all you want to draft players ID as NFL talents regardless of position. If a position of need falls in this grouping then all the better for your organization...free agency is where you go for position of need and the draft is for gaining NFL talents.

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