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No offense taken.You never know who may drop...he's my first choice if he does. There is the injury factor plus the one year wonder effect that may play into this scenario. But I agree he's a top 5 talent IMO.

I would not be upset if things fell this way at all...Ideally I'm not that high on Ogletree but I like picks 2-3. My first pick #8 would be (if no QB) DE/OLB's D. Jordan, Jones or OL.

I agree with you. Just referencing Pouha understanding of the defense & run stuffing abilities (stop gap at best).

Maybe the Troup experiment has run its course...I'm surprised the Bills hasn't shown interest in Pouha (sp?) after being released from the Jets given his experience in Pettine's defensive scheme.

C'mon Man !!! Class of '84- Harvard Cup Champs (were we almost the Bills though, we went to the cup & loss 2 out of 3 yrs...LOL) Senior year was the prize, Go Engineers...

I pray that we don't go down this road again (Rob Johnson) especially if it cost a premium pick...5-6th rd at best. I'll even throw in a conditional pick, hell we basically gave them an All-Pro RB for a 3rd & 4th rd pick, smh...they're way ahead dealing with this inept cast of characters, IMO.

Good question. I would love to read the answer...

I would love for the draft to fall this way for us...EJ has the tools for the present NFL. He may start out a little rough but he played in a pro set offense, a film junkie and has the leadership qualities to succeed IMO. Jordan is the edge rusher plus the length (6'-7") built a lot like Aldon Smith with comparable agility...

Your point being...What does JR stats has to do with Geno Smith's? By all accounts they're totally different in their approach football wise...please elaborate, if you could. What's your criterion for future NFL QB's? All these guys coming out of college have skills & abilities...that's why they're in the discussion as potential future NFL'ers. But if their skills are not a good marriage for the team or coaching staff's scheme implemented, it's a concoction for disaster...

I like your mock draft better...I'd prefer drafting that hybrid DE/OLB then QB in the 2nd. All things being available...

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this...I thought it was a joke at first while watching the "highlights". Seems like an average run of the mill college QB, as a matter of fact very similar to Fitz, IMO. 5th Rd- Priority FA

Ding,ding, ding....that's my thought. Levitre's a good guard if the scheme is finesse or zone blocking but Marrone appears to favor the big inside blockers similar to what he had in New Orleans. Maybe he wants more of a power blocking scheme with the playaction (WC Offense) and that's not Levitre's strength, IMO.

I can spend someone else money just as easy but it really comes down to what type of offense Hackett & Marrone wants to run. Like I stated previously just because you think Levitre is the "best" OL on the team. The issue is where is he slotted league wide because that's the comparable, IMO.His strength is in his mobility and trapping...If that's not the offensive philosophy of the new staff or if they want to employ a power running game. This is not his strength, I don't know but they're has to be a reason they haven't completed a deal. Or made him the priority...

So because he's our best (which is debatable & relative) does that mean you pay him as elite? It all depends on Hackett's philosophy run wise, if its road graders type power football, does Levitre fit that scheme? I don't think that's his strong suit. If it's more trapping & pulling then yes you pay him because that's what he does best, IMO.

You guys are really high on this guy. Is this the home town over value? He's promising and serviceable but not dominant in any phase, IMO...he's listed 8th best at his position, I will add they're is some upside from this report but far from elite. BTW, in this report he's one spot higher than his teammate C. Rhinehart maybe that's a starting point...

Why??? He had a decent year as a rookie in a passing offense ala Kolb but once these coaches get the book on him we'll see how he adjust. Let's NOT jump the gun too soon on this guy. Plus there's plenty of Foles type QB's in this draft IMO ie., Jones, Wilson and Glennon.

If it came down to those three for the Bills, I'm taking Manuel all day here why: 1. He's been describe as a student of the game & a leader. He had young players at the skilled positions this year and never thru them under the bus for not running proper route. Also at the start of the year his mom was diagnosed with cancer and he gutted it out hanging tough while getting off to a bad start. 2. Size, height & athleticism in comparison to the other two.He's closer to a bigger stronger version of R. Wilson, IMO. 3. Career starts against better competition and conference opponents. 4. From these stats provided, he appears to spread the ball down the field better...

It wasn't just that he could move but until this year he hadn't showed that he could also throw accurately while moving out of harms way ala Big Ben. Are you sure about setting records at the combine? Or was that for his QB class...I'll also add timing in drills doesn't equate to real game speed...I still see Deion Sanders hawking Don Beebe (and his 4.37 time 40yd) in the game against Atlanta on a KO return where Don had a good 10 yd advantage. Do let me bring in the ultra fast J.D. Williams who was burnt on the regular when he played here...too many others that trained religiously to master those combine drills.

I understand your point but with these aggressive defense's you have to admit that the statuesque pocket passer is now obsolete...the pocket passers that your referring to are not your dad's pocket passer. Hell even heavy-footed Flacco has learned to throw on the move, IMO. Of the traditional QB's that I grew up watching only young Farve & Marino (because quick release & presence in the pocket) could play in this day & time.

Now I'm convinced that OBD is a joke...but if this is true Chan has changed his story. When he was asked about prospects & potential players in the draft, he said that he didn't like to sit in on those discussions with the GM & scouts. Because his job was to coach the players provided to him and so NOT to have a bias against a player if he & a scout didn't see eye to eye on a prospect. He can't have it both ways...I'm in the theory of B. Parcell's there if I'm going to cook the meal, let me at least shop for the groceries. Chan had it the way he chose and it didn't workout... Kap & wilson are pocket passer that can also run. You can include Rogers, Big Ben & Brees with this breed (Roth's just slower IMO) but these guys tuck the ball & run if the see man coverage from the def...esp Rodgers.

:lol: !!!!

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When he was drafted I quickly reviewed all reports about him and nothing stood out that justified him being rated so high. Plus I'm leary of underclassman going pro that lacks game changing qualities e.g. ball-skills, turnovers and instincts...It seems that OBD doesn't view these as important characteristic for the position. I'm still hoping that this coaching staff will use some of the qualities that were deem encouraging after his junior year e.g. blitzing ability from the slot and run support. Time will tell...

I agree! No way Carter should have made it before Andre...Guess Reeds going to have to become an analyst with NFL Network or ESPN, sad but true.