Mister Defense

Their venom makes it hard to stay on this forum; relentless, using that and their profound ignorance to take over thread after thread after thread... Like Beane said, "Dumb".

I had heard that about Walker, a two year team captain, and of an SEC school, playing against some of the best teams in college. But I had not yet heard that for Jackson, a steal in this draft, and Strong. Thank you! Excellent news, and the good news should keep on coming, as things will get rolling soon.. I think the front office and scouting staff left no stones unturned this year. Think we all want a Super Bowl? Imagine how they feel, out there on the road, year after year, living in hotels, working tirelessly. They likely want to get Josh Allen and the Bills and Buffalo the players to make them champions more than anyone outside of the team and coaches--it is their life's work.

Excellent, sharp and succinct analysis of this very interesting data he put together. It makes me look forward to other analysis of this data, such as contrasting it with the defensive draft expenditures. Etcetera.

I am surprised you put this out, after having read many of your comments in other threads, bashing the offense and the Bills and Beane's commitment to it so voraciously. So, thanks. Pretty brave. As it shows the absurdity of so much of the hate and bashing from that small but prolific group: 1. The top ten teams which have, according to your own analysis, spent the most draft capital on offense since 2018 are: #1 Chicago New England Titans jets Chargers Houston Raiders Pittsburgh Carolina Denver I think that is another example of how ridiculous, and non fact based, the argument is by those who are hating so much on Beane and the Bills. And their twisting of statistics, which makes it soo easy to refute what they say. Only one good offense in that entire bunch, Houston, and that for only 1 year actually. If anyone wants us to join that high powered offense club, with a slew of the worst offenses in the NFL now, and in recent memory, go right ahead. But my team will not join in. Thankfully. We heard our team's fearless leader mock those who want them to do this just yesterday. 2. I, and all other Bills fans, will be happy that the Bills, in the bottom ten of your statistical analysis, are instead in the same club with: San Francisco Miami Rams Buffalo Detroit Eagles Kansas City Cleveland Tampa Dallas This group, the Bills' group, instead includes some of the best offenses in the NFL and the three most recent Super Bowl winners. If I was looking forward to playing offense and waiting to be chosen in the school yard, I would cry (if I was 8 ) if I was chosen by almost any team in the first group, and be ecstatic if it was almost any of these teams, It would be interesting to continue the analysis--why did this not show what you thought it would likely show? Why did it actually show the opposite of that? As the best and worst offenses almost across the board are at the opposite ends of the spectrum of what you expected, and likely wanted to help support your argument. Thanks for the data, and for the work involved. Hopefully it changed your perspective, at least a little, showing the absurdity of one of the main arguments against Beane and the Bills' dedication to the offense. It should confuse the bashers. And shut up a bunch of them. Not.

I think this is a good way to look at it for it, overall. As the first line above is probably what happens that is most frustrating, when threads are taken over by people out to change the direction into something else, something often extremely negative and with nothing more than a their irrational whims and emotion to 'guide' them. Being on this board more lately, however, I have noticed that it happens surprisingly often. But also that there are only about a 10 or so posters (and most can name a few right now...) who are the main culprits, often waiting for threads get established, and then coming in to disrupt, bash, and do the ultra over the top hating. That small number should give some hope that we can eventually overcome these scoundrels that diminish the experience of this otherwise great site. What posters ourselves can do is just ignore those posters then, and don't answer their ultra negative, I have the answer anyway, unhinged questions--those are hallmarks of several of the most prolific haters, are very very common. (They cannot have an actual discussion, often have no leg to stand on, so do that.) The problem is that I have found that is hard to do as an individual when you see someone attacking in such a consistently vicious, unhinged manner, as you want to defend your team from the miscreants, and so it is even harder to do as a collective for the same reason. But we should do some things, as I have found out that there are actually many posters who simply had enough of the haters and their desire to dominate the forum and have left for good, or for long periods of time. That is very sad. But it should motivate us to do something too.

Soo good to hear his blunt words this morning, not caring that this was not what they had planned for. And the fact that he called the hate dumb, as it is, and laid out why it was. Beane is the most straight forward, pull no punches, blunt leader of the Bills we have had in my lifetime. Another great quality of the man. I think the reason the haters are so devastated has nothing to do with the WR thing--I think they realize this big, sharp, focused defensive swing by Beane, and McDermott too, means they are likely going to be here for years to come. Great news for the Bills fans on this forum--but rock their world devastation for the haters.

So, why have a poll then, as whatever the outcome was you have the point you wanted to make and you won't even honor or give credence to the results. But you are consistent--same kind of high quality OP here as the one you started on wide receivers a few days ago, just as thoughtful and objective. Makes me regret deleting my early morning response on there, thinking it was too harsh. It may have been just right actually..

Someone recently told me that they really start going during this time of year, and into May and June. Is that the case as you usually see it? It would make sense if that is the case. As without any games, or pregames, or practice reports, such as we have from July to the end of the season, they are acting like fat kids in a free candy store. Without the concrete football things that I mention above, they feel they can now just make up anything they want, da*n all the relevant facts, logic, and anything measured or rational. Instead, their uncanny hate drives them to a new lunacy, thinking it is okay now if they turn this board into a free for all of extreme bashing and hate. So I completely understand the OP's intent, to try to have the moderators reign them, corral them. It won't happen, but will take the rest of the board standing up to them. The good thing is there are not really many of them, relative to the members on here--they are just a group that is extremely prolific, so it makes it seem like there are more than there actually are. The Bills had the best offense in the NFL last year, the best in Bills' history, and the most balanced in NFL history with 30 rushing and 30 passing touchdowns for the first time ever in the NFL etcetera etcetera... But almost every single one of the haters would clearly use last year's super neglected offense, and the fact that Beane did not fix that dismal mess with this draft, that offense that Beane almost completely ignores, could care less about, as grounds in itself for firing him. One of the craziest things I have ever heard from a group of adults. Beane got it rignt today; very glad he said it--just plain dumb. Love how straight forward and blunt he is, like he was talking directly to... I am also a proponent of getting a burner at wide receiver, a missing element in an otherwise kick as* offense. But this hate has nothing at all to do with that, it is just a vehicle to spew their hate. If not this topic, if the Bills had drafted a premier wideout in the first round, is there any doubt in almost anyone's mind reading this that there is a 100% chance they would do the same thing with a completely different topic? I have none at all, a certainty.

Duh! At the very least it is extremely easy to predict their reactions to almost any move Beane makes or McDermott, for that matter.. Soooo consistent...

it should be like a "duh", what you say above. But when all one sees is red and metaphorical daggers when they think of a man, no amount of reason or fact will sway them. This reaction by that tiny group of hate posters is a telling and seminal example of that. We are trying to persuade people with our reasons and facts when those are almost always irrelevant to them, a non starter. More likely we can convince our pets, I think. Or this stapler sitting on my desk right now.

I am urging all posters to have some fun with this poll and just vote offensive line, like I did, as QB is not an option. Or it will be another super crazy, I despise Beane, loathe him, want to hit him over the head with proverbial sledge hammers thread. Most would agree the Bills need a speedy wide receiver to blow the tops off the defense, but if you read Pete's last OP on WR it, not surprisingly, became what I say in the sentence above. This one will be more of the same, so let's call it for what it is, what it will be, before it gets too far. The Bills had the best offense in the NFL last year, and one of the best of all time. It was the most balanced offense ever, with 30 passing TDs and 30 rushing touchdowns, the 2nd most (1st?) in points per drive in NFL histrory--and Josh was the MVP of the league, like he was the year before (but just was not voted as such). The wide receiver I want, and that so many others do, is simply the last piece in the almost perfect offensive puzzle that Beane and his coaches have put together, one developed diligently, with significant purpose and direction, each step of the way. Possibly not getting that piece this off season cannot be a reason for any sensible folks to somehow then make the case that Beane blows it, and big time, when it comes to the Bills' offense. Best in the NFL last year, and the best the Bills have ever had--and that is saying a lot. But the usual Beane haters are being more bold and loose with the facts than I have ever seen them previously--and that is saying a lot...saying Beane neglects the offense, does not give it the proper tools etcetera etcetera etcetera...... Yup, doing what so many find so distasteful in that small, but aggressive bunch of bashers. But this time it is even more outrageous than ever, just spewing nonsense that cannot be supported, so is not, as their hate glasses won't let them see it any other way. Beane hatred at its most obvious and its most unsupported in recent memory.

Good news, as maybe the Bills have something planned for Cook soon, to end this nonsense, and get one of the most important players on this team, a vital player, a burgeoning superstar, signed to a new multi year contract. They will be able to save tens of millions on the defense in the coming years if this draft was successful, and they know that too. So looking forward to a great resolution, and before the season begins. I am betting Josh is beating the drum very hard behind the scenes, in fact would bet a lot on that being the case.. He finally has one of the missing pieces of the puzzle, an elite back, and will not 'let him walk'.

So, you are saying the Bills basically have almost no tools, overall, on either offense or defense? And very poor tools, mainly? To you, it is just a one man show on offense, and almost no tools on defense either? Do you really think Josh Allen was able to create the best offense in the NFL last year, and historically speaking, and one of the most balanced ever, the first ever with both 30 rushing and 30 passing downs, with one of the best offensive lines, and one of the best running back rooms, and perhaps the best 2 tight end combo, and with receivers good enough for him to earn his first MVP ever, without given quality tools? And do you honestly believe what you say above in bold? Or is it just the heat of the moment, really not something you honesty think is true? If so, I think it would be extremely difficult to support your analysis with much objective evidence. Impossible, actually. The Bills were 13-4 last year (with the last game a giveaway), and were leading the AFC Championship late in the 4th quarter, on the road, without their starting safety or cornerback, and against Patrick Mahomes, the two time Super Bowl champion. We should start calling the 2024 Bills the Toolless Wonders. (Or better, the Toolless Miracles?)

Hey Pete AKA Freddy, Woke up very early today, my dream's images still flying through my head of the 2025 Bills defense, known as the Monsters of Midway 2. Followed by images of Josh and I riding in a convertible, waving to the fans as we drive in the Buffalo parade. It was very early this morning but I was soon on this site. Yours was the first post there, after the pinned draft posts, so I read it. And you shattered my dreams. Images of Josh wildly winging the ball down the field, with no wide receivers there to catch it, replaced the previous images. The balls just bounced on the turf. So I let you have it! Deleting it now.

I used to think this overall, but then Allen seemed to overcome that problem a few years ago. For example, in the playoff game they lost at home to the chiefs two seasons ago, his longer throws were very solid, but the receivers 'dropped the ball'. So, maybe some truth to this theory, though I think in the last few years he has looked very good throwing the deeper balls. But a fast wide receiver does not have to go very deep, just so so, as the speed can then help him take it there. I still think it is the missing element in an otherwise excellent, Super Bowl caliber offense. Something that will make us say, "This is the most dangerous offense that has ever played." Hopefully someone on the team now can be that guy, such as Palmer. Not a a burner but a very high YPC in his career.