What a Tuel

Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Or Calvin and AJ Green last year. Awful busts of WR's they needed to play for their teams last year! And one was injury prone with a toe injury, and the other with an ankle injury. I can't believe they retained them this year.

I see WGR is stirring things up as well now. Calling Watkins injury prone and that it is worrisome. I think people just see what they want to see, the guy isn't injury prone. and I think that term is overused for whenever a player you don't like is injured.

You forgot a stat. Spiller - 672 carries, 205 pass targets McCoy - 1,349 carries, 338 pass targets McCoy is clearly the better RB, but the picture you painted is incomplete, and seems manipulated to show comparable attempts/targets. An argument could be made that CJ didn't deserve more carries/attempts but it still should be disclosed. That said, what is with the told ya so? the guy just had knee surgery, just came back, and had 4 total carries, and 3 targets over 2 games. They are obviously bringing him back slow.

I was talking about this yesterday and came to the conclusion of a tie as well haha.

I didn't misconstrue that you were bashing Sammy. I was pointing out that last year with an inferior offense, and QB, he put up comparable numbers to the three elite WR's you listed's rookie years. Just like Mario Williams, fans have ungodly expectations for the players we pay a lot for. I agree though, nothing needs to be done, we need to be patient and wait for Tyrod to build a rapport with Sammy. He seems to have a special connection with Harvin, probably because he practiced with him all offseason while Sammy was recovering from hip surgery.

Didn't she call out the police at some point? I may be mistaken now that you guys referred to her calling out the NFL, but I thought she was getting mouthy with the whole anti police thing going on.

While Tyrod has been great so far, we don't quite have a Matt Ryan, Ben Roethlisberger or even Andy Dalton type QB to throw him the ball. Everyone will openly admit that (Plus our line) for his rookie year at least. Also stats from those 3 WR's in their first 2 years (3 for Antonio since he didn't play most of his first year) Julio Jones 13 games played 96 targets 54 rec 959 yards 8 tds 16 games played 129 targets 79 rec 1,198 yards 10 tds AJ Green 15 games played 116 targets 65 rec 1,057 yards 7 tds 16 games played 164 targets 97 rec 1,350 yards 11 tds Antonio Brown 9 games played 19 targets 16 rec 167 yards 0 tds 16 games played 123 targets 69 rec 1,108 yards 2 tds 13 games played 105 targets 66 rec 787 yards 5 tds Sammy Watkins 16 games played 128 targets 65 rec 982 yards 6 tds On par for 70 targets 37 rec 528 yards 5 tds Does anyone realistically believe that Sammy is a 528 yard receiver? Can we please acknowledge other factors beyond "Sammy just isn't good enough"? Geez for the love of god just look at the tape.

Seriously? Up 27 to 0 and you want Sammy to play banged up? Sammy isn't here to pad your fantasy stats guys. I realize he will never be "worth" it to some people, but it's time to let it go. The game tape proves what he is capable of.

You think we are down about getting beat up by the Pats? The Miami fans are reaaallly down after losing to Jacksonville. http://www.finheaven.com/showthread.php?369097-How-to-Beat-buffalo!!!

Aaron Williams has had personal fouls before Rex Ryan. I would rather not fall into the circus stigma that was projected on the Jets, so I don't believe it had anything to do with Rex Ryan and having a big mouth.

I think we have to be careful along these lines. There are a few games this season that we might have started taking lightly such as jacksonville in London, I think this Patriots game brought us back to reality a bit. Every game is it's own match up.

I was along the lines of he should be suspended and that is life if they have to play us without him. We had to play against the Colts without Dareus. The only caveat was the National Media would have given us little credit. But this was months ago and I was wrong, they are actually doing pretty good with us despite the bad loss, (maybe because of Rex).

I know I have been warned, and I know this is trolling but really? Evans? Didn't give 110% by putting his foot down in bounds for his sole catch this week. 0 catches 0 yards Odell is great and all, but he does not catch every Eli Manning overthrow. Also targeted 20 times in two games to Sammy's 11. (Not saying we need to target Sammy more, but those are facts). Kelvin Benjamin is out for the year so you are living in the past. But having watched a lot of Carolina games last year, he was certainly targeted a lot by Newton, and he certainly had some drops.

Yep that's what we saw too. The safety may have recovered, but not before Woods catches it for a huge gain

I think it would have been a touchdown had it been intended for Woods, meaning the ball was thrown to him in stride. I was at the game, and initially I thought "this is it!" until it became obvious it was going short. An argument could be made that the Pats D wouldn't have come off him then, but I believe he had a few steps on him. Edit: And looking at the post a few posts above mine, I can see maybe it woudn't have been a TD, but still a big catch, He has to fall out of their graces before they start calling him out for that stuff, plus he didn't cost a 1st round pick so it doesn't bug them that much. I think both of them are on the same level and they can both be decent QBs when they want. That said I think Tyrod had a lot of the same problems EJ had the first 4 games last season. Dancing around in the pocket, taking sacks, and dumping it off every single play whether its working or not.

At one point I saw him lining up and waving his arms around at Tyrod. I don't presume to know what he was saying or trying to get across, but it was something.

Kind of like despite their best efforts, the officials couldn't let the colts win last week.

Kaepernick isn't Rivers. Rivers seems to have connected well with him all preseason from what I understand. There is a lot more of a gut instinct that he found a good spot here than SF. I really never thought SF was a good fit for him.

Tyrod at QB, Handoff to McCoy right side for 3 yards. 21 first downs

Isn't it also a record that is better than most if not all other coaches? I'd say Rex gives us as good of chance as anyone else, which says something in my opinion.

Why the heck would the next logical step be a frame job? The Patriots have done all of this themselves, there is no need for anyone to frame them, they blatently skirt rules, so why is it so far fetched that they would break the ones they know they could get away with? Why are there so many reports of them skirting and breaking the rules? And please don't tell me its because people are jealous, that's absurd and childish. The next logical step is for people like you to wake up and realize that you are being duped. This isn't a witch hunt, they have a culture of cheating in NE.

Just got mine too. I already used the 7-day free trial, so when I click "start free trial" (which seems to be the only option), and put in my promo code, it says I won't have to pay after the free trial, so I click pay now, and it says I already used the free trial. Does anyone see where to just outright buy game pass and bypass the free trial BS?

Yeah Jackson's 0 rushing fumbles in 2014 was a real learning experience for Bryce Brown. He decided to go his own way and fumble us out of a playoff spot anyway though.

Saw a notification that the Pats were trying out Jeff Tuel after releasing Ryan Lindley. They are really searching for that third guy! Maybe they will take Cassel

I'd much rather be wrong and positive than pick your perceived "safe" bet because you learned the Bills lost a bunch of years before this I say we win the division.