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No , he said that regarding the over the middle pass to Evans in the Endzone, not the corner route. Re: the corner route you refer to, he said he should have thrown the ball through the back of the endzone.

Ok three then if indeed it didn't go off of Evan's hands. Ouch...

The ball was not high, it was right in his hands. That aside, Drew has been very poor today regardless...

It's been Drew's fault on 2 of the four picks today. Two is bad enough without getting "help" from your teammates.

I certainly would have liked to see more runs inside the ten than they have been calling. The Ravens must be just daring us to throw and were not good enough to produce.

Great play indeed!

That was a very poor decision indeed.

I don't know. I guess you're just from a different generation. I root for the Bills. I don't get off on bashing a team that I know is giving 100% effort to become a better team. I don't try to outguess proffessionals who know 100 times more about the game than I do, and I know alot. When you bash, just back it up and I have no problem with it. Of course you can continue to do whatever you want though....

I don't see her coming in here with broad sweeping statements about this guy sucks and that guy sucks with nothing to back it up.

I think your life as a Bills fan would be a lot more fun if you took some tips from your Mom on how to be a fan. Just an opinion though...

Quit your bitching and root for your team

Perfect example of my point above. Thanks kid!

Ha , boy you're funny. Fact is I continue to back my opinions with facts from on field realities while some others choose to spew statements as fact with no backing.

Bill you should know that the 3rd and long issues are because we have to manufacture a pass rush via the blitz and not with our 4 man front. But I guess that's just the view from Fantasy land.

Jerry Gray is dumb now? Is that you inside scoop or do you just ooze knowledge, I mean stevestojan, through osmosis? You must also first get a clue before you expect people to listen to your angry rants.

The reason this argument is a non issue is that Willis today has a mental error (12th man on field) , two drops (1 was too high for him but TH gets the same treatment), and basically is showing the same non ability to get any yards rushing. It matters not who is in at HB.

The way I see it, If they are able to hold up even reasonably well (@2 sacks, 1 INT, 3.5 ypc) this weekend on the road against the Ravens D, then it will show that there is not a defense in the league that this line can't atleast move the ball against.

I'm not so sure many would understand your sarcasm here B)

Nick, I know you play football but either you do not understand the MLB position in a 4-3 or you have not seen all the games. I'll give you the few bad penalties, but his positives immensely outweigh his negatives and he may be having an overall better season than even last year.

Very good post. All valid points. Welcome aboard. Ok I haven't added anything to the thread so here goes. I still fear for our protection up the middle because although their DL may not penetrate well, Their LB's are speedy and have an very good attack mentality.

BTW I'd love to see JP in goal line situations...

And what that has happened this season would possibly bring this about?

Sorry for puttiin' that spanking on ya this week Rich ! I can't help it that Culpepper scores enough points for 4 players on most given weeks

Oh I agree with you. My point was less of a defense of GW than it was about the decline in hype with those two coaches.

Speaking of GW and his coaching peers, has anyone noticed that a little of the luster has come quickly off of the two "great" coaches that we "should have hired" (Marvin Lewis and John Fox) ? Players win games. Coaches help, but players win games. (unless you are New England :-) )