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Jac is that you?!?!?!

If I were Beane & McDermott, I'd want the Bengals thinking they were going to be up against Benford and Jackson. I wouldn't disclose any plans for Douglas, it's not like an injury where there's some "requirement" for disclosure. Don't show them your cards.

I get the impression that Dorsey has to be the smartest man in the room.

Yeah I can't imagine this approach Belichick tried varied much from past variations that this offense has obliterated (save a weather event game). We're all looking for some smoking gun, but I think overall you can lump it all into a big lack of focus. Who knows what the biggest contributing factor is? You hope the coaches and players can solve it.

It will be interesting to see how this narrative grows in the next few weeks if this trend continues. Last year's KC game and this year's Miami game are so very similar in terms of momentary signficance, leading to national Media anointing as the top team. It's fair to wonder if this kind of "pinnacle" effect engenders some relaxation from QB1, especially when matched up against perceived dwarfs. We wanted to blame the London thing, but maybe it's a mental thing more than a fatigue thing.

I don't think it's just him, but granted that if a captain is not, then that can have a negative affect on others.

My suspicion would be that Josh Allen and Ken Dorsey are not on the same page, and it eats him up because he advocated for Dorsey. But he probably knows that he made a big mistake flexing and pushing forward a guy with little-to-no experience implementing an offense. And in that case, it could also lead to tension between McDermott and Allen. Whether it's Dorsey or Allen responsible for the offense's woes, it's Allen's by default. And I'd imagine any complaints from JA17 could easily get thrown back in his face. It's a game of Russian Roulette right now. McDermott is going to try to hold fast to "complementary football" (i.e. ball control & more limits on Hero Ball, as any Defensive Coach is prone to do when offense is adding stress to his job), and either a) Josh/Dorsey/Offense will learn to operate more efficiently in this paradigm & win, or b) they will continue to fail and McDermott may have to relent in order to avoid a losing season.

Really need to have a WR option that allows them to use Kincaid as the TE on 3rd down and relegate Knox to the bench...at least on those important passing downs.

It would be fun for someone to take the picture shot off a computer screen in that thread & enhance it to get whoever is taking it. I'd bet dollars to donuts that someone with some skill could extract the person taking the photo.

Officiating has learned to screw both teams so that the opposing fan can point to the bad calls going the other way in less-crucial moments and say "see they weren't biased." Wonder if an Arlen Spector-type situation is coming. Someone's going to get screwed and a politician will start wondering about all of these gambling sponsorships. If you're going to get money from betting parlors, you'd better be transparent about your competition's integrity. Of course, the NBA has been all but rigged for 3 decades...

I voted no. My issue sits similarly to what the Eichel monstrosity became...if you fire McDermott, are you going to have Allen playing any role in the replacement hire? We've already experienced a lot of unease with how the offense has progressed with his favored OC pick. If this season's result is due to the offense resembling the last two weeks and the Bengal Div Round game, you must a) hire a competent Offensive Coordinator to replace Dorsey, and b) hire a Defensive Coordinator to take that off McDermott's plate. If he isn't keen on any of that, then maybe it would be time for him to go too. But he's gotta feel like making the playoffs isn't enough anymore, and if so he'd be the first to want to look at how to fix the ills.

Harty's only seeing the field about 1/5 of the time on offense, guess it's easy to get away from man coverage when you're riding pine.

We look back on this and it certainly feels like that extension had an extenuating circumstance. Knox has made plenty of good plays, so this is somewhat a "what have you done for me lately" sentiment we're rallying around to bash him. But the extension came right after tragedy, perhaps a goodwill gesture to help him through a situation no one ever wants to experience.

My guess: Daboll being a defensive mind first spent an awful lot of time trying to tell McD how to do his job. I'd also bet that Daboll thought we needed to scrap more with the opponent, be more physical, instigate s**t. If that was the case, seeing his guys instigating from the opening kickoff tells you a lot.

What you hope is that Allen isn't feeding Diggs specifically to keep him happy. Diggs is gonna have to grow up at some point. Exploiting other pinch points will open the game up for him eventually. And he'll still get his grabs.

QB Runs are somewhat in your control - the QB can give himself up at any time, can go out of bounds. Pocket QB hits are not. The QB is often in the midst of a very vulnerable motion with little ability to protect himself. A bunch of 300 lb guys diving, rolling, swatting, and smashing at you. Almost every injury we've seen Allen take has been behind the LOS. Not saying I endorse him getting 30 rushes a game, but I think the decreased threat of him running has given opposing DC's a much easier time.

So let's get to the heart of the matter... The stat that's missing is...Josh ground game. If you discard that from your playbook, the rest must come up and fill in the gaps. And everything is pretty much the same, nothing has truly picked up that lack of dynamism.

Reasons why the Giants were trouble: 1) Brian Daboll grew up a defender & he gave Wink Martindale plenty of inside baseball on the Bills' offense. If you designed it, it wouldn't be difficult to crack whatever minor changes Dorsey has made. 2) Plenty of guys (including Daboll) with a motivational chip on their shoulder as former Bills. 3) Tyrod is an older soul and has learned to cope in ways that Jones needs to learn. He played pretty damned well, while they didn't get a TD they were dangerous. Reasons we play down to our opponents: 1) We desperately try to hide significant parts of the playbook against weaker opponents. 2) The players lack sharpness against weaker opponents, and thus in situations where man-for-man we should succeed with basic play calls, they botch due to a lack of motivation or zeal. Let's also face it - the Jets game embarrassed them, and so they took it to LV and WAS. They've treated the MIA game like last year's KC game, and have since seemed to underprepare/underperform.

This has nothing to do with past history. It has everything to do with the soundness of the strategic mind, and we all know how that goes with McDermott. If your "we get no yardage" plan is to kick a field goal, your foremost goal should be to tap out their time outs & try to gain low-risk yards to get closer. This is because the best case scenario (for the Bills) in today's rules they'll get the kickoff at the 25 with lots of time. You then force them to go the field with Tyrod, no time outs, plus they need a 2 point conversion, assuming you make. If you miss, they still get the ball as they did, but again with no time outs. IF YOU PASS, you should punt. End of story. You pass because you plan to pin them deep. Sure, they could still return it, or the ball could go in the end zone, or they could block it (they can also block a FGA). But you would be willing to risk leaving them a time out if you are going to strand them >80 yards from the victory. I think the play call was good, the execution level of this team has been poor at best. It pains me to say this because it's a f'ing Pats quote, but it looks like the offense isn't "doing their job." on a day to day basis. Sloppy, uninspired, & unprepared all around.

I'll answer your question from the OP - it doesn't matter what we think, no flag, no penalty, no Bills loss, no happiness for NewCam.

I'm sure you cheered when the refs ate the flag in the first quarter on the DPI or two. Don't worry, your Dolphins won.

Quid pro DOH

My worry with Dorsey is that the plays may make sense in his mind, but he may not know how to translate that to the players making sense of them.

I was almost certain the final scoring drive was all Sugar Rush Josh. His whole demeanor seemed to be "I'm gonna win this in spite of the gameplan."

I'm sure they curl up in the corner like the other 75,000 QB's or WR's that started out their careers and now ring up gas receipts at the local convenience store. There's no resiliency they've ever shown to help them fight through whatever they've faced to get to the peak of success. Yupp. Kidding aside, I'm sure it's not an easy pill to swallow, but no matter how many night's McDermott dreams of stuffing an opponent on 4th and Goal at the 2 yard line for victory, this team rides or dies on the offense. They'll need the defense, but McDermott has schemed around injuries to guys like Kuechly and Davis before. Information is best. Losing them now, in one of the softer parts of the schedule, is knowledge. Use it to your advantage, plan for the lack of White, Milano, and probably Jones.