White Linen

I think most Bills fans undervalue Chandler. I wouldn't go so far as to say he's a huge matchup problem for defenses but he's certainly an issue.

"What concerned me about Williams' roster spot is that he isn't likely to contribute on special teams. Goodwin and Graham both offer upside as kick returners, while Hogan finished third on the team with nine special teams tackles last season." Hogan has him concerned about taking Williams' roster spot because of 9 special teams tackles? Weak attempt at trying to sound smart Rodak.

I certainly wouldn't want to put out a wide spread indictment on the entire stadiums of fans - and at the same time I don't think it's fair to say fans like me that would prefer to not go to games are the type who want you to sit down, want no banging of their chair and that you don't want in the stadium. In full disclosure I have a relatively small amount of game day experience. I'm 39 years old and I've been to only about 15 games - of those I'd say only 5 were pleasurable experiences. One rough experience in particular was when I was somewhere around 15-16 years old my brother took me to a game (birthday gift) and 2 Jets fans were in the stands wearing Jets jerseys. Of course it started out with the entire section pointing at them saying A-hole - then these guys finally stood up for themselves and yelled something back because they were being heckled unmercifully - several (10-15) guys from this section commenced to beat the snot out of these two guys, in fact it was the worst live beating I've seen in my life. At the end they weren't moving and no one did anything about it because the mob would have turned on you (or at least it felt that way). I've got 8-9 more terribly miserable experiences albeit not this bad from being at the stadium. All the things you describe are awesome - celebrating a TD with your fellow fans is an incredible experience, but I've got to tell you there's no way I'd take my boys into that stadium based on my small sample of experiences. I get it most people that go say hey it's no place for kids so what, but for me that ruins some of why I'd want to go.

Are you familiar with what you say?

Tough defensive football players that get overly aggressive at times = serial killers?

There's an argument that Ealey spit in Spikes face the play prior. Spikes said he wasn't trying to injure but rub it back in his face. Who the heck knows but I heard Rod Woodson say Seattle has so many players with "that dog" in them. I think it's time we had some players with that dog. Seattle is nasty. I think they play so physical that the referees have a difficult time figuring out what to call because they're so aggressive, so they basically elevate the allowable aggressiveness because it's a constant. I for one am glad Spikes is here and I'll live with some of his antics if he elevates the toughness of this defense. We're talented on defense there's zero doubt about that, now IMO we have to get crazy physical with teams.

But the other element within the fan experience is it's being diminished by the excessive drinking and subsequent behavior. Again this isn't something I'm trying to convince anyone of, I'm just saying for me it's not worth dealing with.

I could not agree more. I think we may be over looking how good our D ends are. I'm sorry I like Hughes, Lawson and the addition of Wynn. Hughes is 25, he can improve against the run and make himself a better all around end.

Obviously we by in large agree, you said it much better.

He was no John DiGiorgio

To me the NFL stadium experience has boiled down to getting hammered or having to deal with all the others around you that are hammered. It's just not something that appeals to me even though I would prefer being there from a football aspect. I live in Charlotte now so I don't make that choice every week but I always chose not to go when I return home and I never make a special trip to go to a game. Not sure how Buffalo compares to most stadiums but I do know games in Charlotte are a lot more tame. I know I know you'll say their fans don't compare to ours and you're right they don't, but it is for me the much better game time experience because the fans are not able to get too out of control. JMO

I could talk myself into being offended by nearly half the sports team names.

You know the clear argument is who each of them had throwing them the ball? Sounds like that did need to be explained to you. I actually agree that talent wise Moulds was the better receiver, not by a wide margin, but if I had to take one right now on this team it would be Moulds.

I agree that his much more natural position will be WLB. On top of that the person we got to take his place at MLB in Spikes should prove to be the perfect person to move Kiko forward.

Yikes

I really understand what you're saying and this fan base has plenty to learn from past mistakes on judging players. In saying that Graham doesn't do much well and I do understand our offense has been prohibitive, but WR's emerge all over the league in putrid offenses so to me that's really not an excuse. He's a one trick pony (go deep) that doesn't do that often enough to warrant putting up with all he does badly. If the team keeps 6 receivers I don't believe he'll be one of them.

So true

So if you're a billionaire and speak publicly about being interested in purchasing the Buffalo Bills - you're yakking? You made my point.

I thought only the blowhard ' s would say they were interested and the eventual buyer would be someone who has said nothing?

The timing is Peguliar. See what I did there? Bwahhhhh

Numminen?

Buzz kill Now that's funny!

I'd pass, tons of better options to spend your money on.