White Linen

I seriously love how the NFL and the players association worked out the angst that was associated with signing your picks.

I have so many jersey's in the old styles that the new player couldn't have worn. For that reason I'm moving past changing the name plate.

It's not entirely fair to just pick out his shortcomings. I do concede to the record being the ultimate judge. But it's clear to me he was an important part of any good with the team we field today. In fact, you can go ahead and give him a portion of the credit to get Whaley to come here.

I'd argue Nix was a major part of us changing for the better as an organization.

I guess it's the debate between do you grade a draft based on team needs and whether they addressed them or just the players grades that were drafted.

Interesting how you left out the subtle belittling of Christians on this site. How perfectly that suits you.

The above should be I conjectured.

Haha, you remember that? Not my greatest moment. In full disclosure we did meet and decided to thumb wrestle. I won.

Your first sentence isn't structured properly. To formally stress the "not" in "You aren't very funny" it should read You're not very funny.

Clearly you're not smart enough to have this conversation with, I'm out.

This sentence is where my argument is pointing. I think we are on our way to this happening. We aren't getting better as a society we're just changing what is tolerable. In my parents day if you supported people being gay you were ostracized, today it's shifting in the other direction. Christians are feeling their rights are being stripped on a daily basis but people like you don't care because the shift is happening towards your point of view. We aren't becoming more tolerant we're changing what's tolerated. Before you use the "poor you" card again, understand that this is something that we're fully aware would happen based on the scriptures. I'm merely pointing out that it's here.

Do you think gay people have felt marginalized? So as long as it's the opposite view of yours it's ok?

Yes you are correct the distinction is the question of choice. The contrary opinion is that everything is a choice and the basis of that opinion is obviously from a Christian point of view on this topic. Obviously if two people are having a discussion about this and one has a Christian background and the other doesn't believe in God it becomes very difficult to understand each others point of view. My point was that the opposing view doesn't have to be based on hate and should be able to be freely given without being labeled homophobic etc. I absolutely am against hating anyone and feel that he should be free to pursue anything he chooses. Where it becomes difficult for people with a similar view as myself is to get other people to understand that you can have the opinion of the prior sentence and believe that being gay is a choice that is against our belief system.

I think it's a win going forward mentality, not just win now. Win now and win later.

Well I got that wrong!

It's interesting how society has changed. The overwhelming support even in this thread is proof that the battle is being won. I'm sure there's hundreds of people that have read this thread that disagree with Michael Sam's lifestyle and are afraid to comment. This is proof that change isn't coming - it's here. The tolerance has been achieved - because even those that disagree won't voice their opinion and have been silenced. It is no longer acceptable in the USA to object the gay lifestyle.

Get ready for Fred or Spiller to get cut.

I did too. People couldn't get Kelsay out of their head when I was arguing this kid is going to be a star.

Oh lord

Johnson isn't going anywhere and we gave up two picks for Watkins.

I'm not trying to argue with your point or diminish the value of 4 WR's but the differentiation is that the 5 o lineman are on the field every offensive play where 4 WR's obviously are not. In a two tight end set I don't consider the second tight end a starter, nor would the 2 WR's that come off. So without getting semantic there really aren't 4 starting positions for WR's like o lineman.

Your idea of getting rid of Stevie is IMO counterproductive. Let's not anoint Goodwin and Williams ahead of him just yet or even Woods for that matter. Why can't we wait and see how these young players develop and be sure before hoping? We're strong at WR with possibilities but nothing proven yet. We have the cap room and when it's the right time to show the players the door lets do that. After this year would be an appropriate time to think about these things.

As much as I'd love to go TE, I agree that the Tackle position needs to be addressed. I think it's a slight stretch to rely on an immediate starter in the 3rd round, not that it can't happen, but the percentages IMO go down exponentially.

He's 27 how in the world do you come up with "his best years are long gone"? Did you see our QB's last year? Yes his numbers dropped off and he was often injured only playing 12 games, but that statement is beyond absurd. How does he have one year left on a 5 year contract signed in 2012?

The NFL can't, but you know that.